Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/10 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: permit=day/season permit alone seems too ambiguous, I'd go for fishing:permit or permit:fishing Then some info on where to obtain a permit. -0.5, there might be cases where this is a useful information (could be entered as free text in

[Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Pieren
Hi, I'm currently trying to refresh a wiki translation of the Access key page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access But this page is raising some questions (for myself then imagine for newcomers): - customer is documented as disputed in the Values table and similar do destination. And

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 11.09.2012 14:17, Pieren wrote: - customer is documented as disputed in the Values table and similar do destination. And when you read the definition of destination, it says e.g. customer parking lots. Very confusing. I think too that a signle value is enough as already mentionned there.

[Tagging] Map for surface/smoothness?

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! I'm looking for a map where I can see what ways are (not) tagged with surface/smoothness. The tag width would be a nice-to-have. Maybe something like OSMI? Any hints for me? Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: Subtagging doesn't really work with access - there may be different tags using the destination value on the same object, and they might then need different destination subtags. Well. I'm waiting an example where the

Re: [Tagging] Map for surface/smoothness?

2012-09-11 Thread Richard Mann
http://www.itoworld.com/map/25 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.comwrote: Hi! I'm looking for a map where I can see what ways are (not) tagged with surface/smoothness. The tag width would be a nice-to-have. Maybe something like OSMI? Any hints for me?

Re: [Tagging] Map for surface/smoothness?

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/9/11 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com: http://www.itoworld.com/map/25 Nice, but is also shows tracktype so the map is very colourful and its hard to tell where surface is missing. Also it doesn't consider smoothness if I'm not mistaken.

Re: [Tagging] Fishing allowed?

2012-09-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2012-09-10 18:46, Jason Cunningham wrote : On 10 September 2012 14:05, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk mailto:openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote: On 10/09/2012 12:36, te...@free.fr mailto:te...@free.fr wrote: I would like to store information about the legality

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 11/set/2012 um 14:17 schrieb Pieren pier...@gmail.com: I'm currently trying to refresh a wiki translation of the Access key page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access I think too that a signle value is enough as already mentionned there. If we keep customer, we need another

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 11/set/2012 um 14:55 schrieb Pieren pier...@gmail.com: If you specify the access for customers, then you have to do it for employees or visitors as well. Think about parkings or entrances in theatres, hotels, airports, supermarkets, malls, factories, hospitals, etc... I don't agree

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread SomeoneElse
Pieren wrote: If you specify the access for customers, then you have to do it for employees or visitors as well. Think about parkings or entrances in theatres, hotels, airports, supermarkets, malls, factories, hospitals, etc... Why? If I'm mapping a pub car park I want some way to say

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:58 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Why? If I'm mapping a pub car park I want some way to say access != the great unwashed public. I'm not going to care that the bar staff actually tend to park in a particular corner, or around the back. Nobody

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Martin Koppenhöfer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: IIRR those were initially intended to mean the same. but do you agree with the current definition ? Strange tagging. Access=designated does not follow the convention mode of transport=designated. You cannot

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Masi Master
Hi, for me visitors belongs to customer, and employee belongs to private. I think between designated and official there are different opinions. For now I would say there is no big difference. Both used primary for foot-, cycle- or bridleways. A way with a sign: Private way, use with own

Re: [Tagging] Map for surface/smoothness?

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Vonwald (Imagic)
Am 11.09.2012 um 16:10 schrieb Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de: http://roads.osm4people.org/?zoom=7lat=49.60305lon=10.72137layers=B0TFF Thanks! This covers surface, but smoothness isn't supported as far as I can see. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 36, Issue 17, 7

2012-09-11 Thread St Niklaas
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Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 36, Issue 17, 8

2012-09-11 Thread St Niklaas
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[Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Rob Nickerson
Although I don't know the history of the access tag, I would expect that designated and permissive might have something to do with Public Rights of Way in the UK: * If a path is designated as a Public Footpath then you have a legal right to walk on it and there is a legal structure protecting

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 21:03 +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: Although I don't know the history of the access tag, I would expect that designated and permissive might have something to do with Public Rights of Way in the UK: I think they refer to England and Wales. Scotland has different access

Re: [Tagging] Map for surface/smoothness?

2012-09-11 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 11.09.2012 18:14, schrieb Martin Vonwald (Imagic): Am 11.09.2012 um 16:10 schrieb Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de: http://roads.osm4people.org/?zoom=7lat=49.60305lon=10.72137layers=B0TFF Thanks! This covers surface, but smoothness isn't supported as far as I can see. not yet