[Tagging] Improving campground rendering

2015-05-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
For those of you mapping campgrounds, what improvements might you want in *rendering*? Keep in mind there's presently no process for voting for main map rendering. -- I think that osm-

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 5:11 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > In the USA, there aren't any public holidays on a national scale on which > businesses are required to close. Businesses aren't the only things with opening hours. That said, there's a different and similar problem encountered: Just a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-05-01 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 17:11 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: > In the USA, there aren't any public holidays on a national scale on > which businesses are required to close. I don't know of any such laws > on a state scale, but I am not familiar with the laws of all 50 > states. Liquor stores in Texa

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-05-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 30.04.2015 um 18:04 schrieb p...@trigpoint.me.uk: >> It really makes more problems than it solves > +1 +1 cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-05-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 30.04.2015 um 18:28 schrieb Robin `ypid` Schneider : > > . I expect that most countries have something like public holidays and > that most amenities are closed on those days. not only countries, also regions and even cities/municipalities can have their public holidays, but assuming t

[Tagging] Tag: shop: "hifi"

2015-05-01 Thread pmailkeey .
Hi, Somewhere else in OSM world, 'hifi shops' has been mentioned. I take this to mean in connection with 'musical entertainment systems' such as 'radio', CD players and other audio reproduction electronics. As such, I feel the term 'hifi' is too 'narrow' and inadequate for the range of equipment t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-05-01 Thread Robin `ypid` Schneider
Thanks for all the feedback and insides about how other countries handle this. Because of the problems that this proposal creates I think it is the best to leave it as it is and cancel the proposal. So you have to be explicit (as before) when adding opening_hours. I created overpass queries to find

Re: [Tagging] Tag: shop: "hifi"

2015-05-01 Thread Brad Neuhauser
shop=hifi has almost 6000 uses, so it must fill a need for some people. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/shop=hifi If hifi is too specific for you, you could always use shop=electronics. Also, there is this note on the hifi wiki page regarding hifi vs. electronics: "The suggested distinction

Re: [Tagging] Tag: shop: "hifi"

2015-05-01 Thread pmailkeey .
WOW - this list has the 'reply-to:' correctly set I'm shocked ! On 1 May 2015 at 14:44, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > shop=hifi has almost 6000 uses, so it must fill a need for some people. > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/shop=hifi > It fills a need for people that couldn't find anythin

Re: [Tagging] Improving campground rendering

2015-05-01 Thread Tod Fitch
> On May 1, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > > For those of you mapping campgrounds, what improvements might you want in > rendering? > Keep in mind there's presently no process for voting for main map rendering. > > > -

Re: [Tagging] Tag: shop: "hifi"

2015-05-01 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 01.05.2015 17:54, pmailkeey . napisał(a): "electronics" says Tandy / Radio Shack / Maplin to me - with components, boards and soldering irons and cables/connectors. For me that would be "electronic_parts" or "electronic_components" these days. This was different indeed when I was a chi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-01 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > > +1 on addr:unit or ref over addr:housenumber. I think ref makes more sense > than addr:unit on remote/isolated pitches (ie hike-in sites, not drive-in). > > In addition, I've seen cases where individual pitches are named instead of > nu

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > Most public campgrounds in US Forests, US Parks and, at least in > California, state parks don’t have a verifiable street address. And > backcountry (hike or walk-in) campsites sometimes have numbered pitches but > definitely don’t have a street

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-05-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote: > They should be covered for all US states [2]. It has > been noted that the US has multiple holidays. Is that like the bank > holidays in > the UK? It might be worth to defined them. > Problem is they vary so damn much. Nobody seems

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-05-01 Thread pmailkeey .
On 1 May 2015 at 19:59, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Robin `ypid` Schneider > wrote: > >> They should be covered for all US states [2]. It has >> been noted that the US has multiple holidays. Is that like the bank >> holidays in >> the UK? It might be worth to defined th

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-01 Thread pmailkeey .
On 1 May 2015 at 19:29, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > > On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > >> >> Or with a more proper namespace: >> >> * camp_site=pitch* >> * pitch:drinking_water=no* >> * pitch:picnic_table=yes* >> >> >> The more I think about it, the more I like this e

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-01 Thread Tod Fitch
I’ve created a proposal page at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/camp_site_pitch that, I hope, reflects the more recent discussion on this topic. Please feel free to comment on it here, on the discussion page associated with that wiki entry or even go ahead and edit the prop

Re: [Tagging] Tag:natural=tree and taxon names

2015-05-01 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
It really just happened. species, genus and taxon as tags came into existence at similar times. It may well be that my use of taxon was inspired by your own initiative on Flickr. Currently the position is very simple: - species and genus are preferred tags for taxon:species and taxon:genus

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-01 Thread Tod Fitch
> On May 1, 2015, at 5:05 PM, David Bannon wrote: > > > Tod, nice work but I am concerned about the syntax you have chosen for > two reasons. > > 1. Given that it was agreed that the larger site is the camp_site and > there are pitch within the camp_site (UK terminology), then > camp_site=camp

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-01 Thread David Bannon
On Fri, 2015-05-01 at 17:43 -0700, Tod Fitch wrote: > ... I guess the page could be renamed to campground pitch No need ! Its the camp_site= part that is my problem. > (I guess I should look into how one properly can rename a wiki page. . .) Hmm, carefully I suggest. > I guess there could be a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-01 Thread Andrew Errington
> Hmm, lets experiment ... > > Node > tourism = camp_site > camp_site = standard > name = Happy Jacks > > Node > tourism = camp_site > camp_pitch = yes > ref = 42 > addr:unit = 42 > camp_pitch:picnic_table=yes > > Node > > > What I don't see here is how to associate the pitches with "Happy > J

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-01 Thread Tod Fitch
> On May 1, 2015, at 10:17 PM, David Bannon wrote: > > Hmm, lets experiment ... > > Node > tourism = camp_site > camp_site = standard > name = Happy Jacks > > Node > tourism = camp_site > camp_pitch = yes > ref = 42 > addr:unit = 42 > camp_pitch:picnic_table=yes > > Node > > > What I do