Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 08:47:36 - "Ralph Aytoun" wrote: > My personal opinion is that this is getting totally out of hand. > Shops pay a lot of money to advertise their wares and you are > stepping in and trying to do commercial marketing for free. Nobody is forcing

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to Change Road Classification, Road Surface, Road Condition, and Add Number of Lanes

On 5 March 2016 21:13:48 GMT+00:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Am 05.03.2016 um 15:25 schrieb Alberto : >> >> OSM does not establish the difference between inter-urban (rural) >roads and urban roads (comprising mostly avenues and streets). >

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

On 6 March 2016 08:47:36 GMT+00:00, Ralph Aytoun wrote: >My personal opinion is that this is getting totally out of hand. >Shops pay a lot of money to advertise their wares and you are stepping >in >and trying to do commercial marketing for free. >Not only that but

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > This an attempt to subvert the present creation of other tag/s (by stealth) > that, in my view, can be much better. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sells One problem I see at this moment, is that there

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

I have made some alteration that should address this? It might be more clear that it is a property key of something else .. like the height key. Description: description of items sold by a shop or some amenities. Proposal: An indication of what is sold by a shop or some amenities. Tagging:

Re: [Tagging] tributary role in waterway relations: widespread?

Am Montag, den 29.02.2016, 12:01 +0100 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:21:44 +0100 > David Marchal wrote: > > > > > Hello, there. > > > > I wondered: I saw the' tributary' role on some waterway relations; > > while I understand its usage — to represent the

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

It depends on the kind of shops. E.g vehicle related shops, typically have 1 or only a few brands. The listof brands fixed for longer periods. I think the same is true for some fashion outlets where you can only find a collection from a limited number of brand. I wouldn't start adding brands to

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

My personal opinion is that this is getting totally out of hand. Shops pay a lot of money to advertise their wares and you are stepping in and trying to do commercial marketing for free. Not only that but who is going to maintain this information? Shops rotate their stocks on a seasonal basis.

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to Change Road Classification, Road Surface, Road Condition, and Add Number of Lanes

In the UK you can add a fourth one to that list - where Royal Mail think you are, for the purposes of addressing post. Doesn't correspond to any of the first three options. This is similar in some pats of the US. USPS addresses are completely different from the other three. On Sun, Mar 6, 2016

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

It really really really really is not a good idea to pollute the key name space with an indeterminate number of sub-keys* instead of placing values in the, no surprise there, value part. it essentially guarantees that nobody will ever evaluate any of the information and even if the proposal would

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to Change Road Classification, Road Surface, Road Condition, and Add Number of Lanes

In the UK you can add a fourth one to that list - where Royal Mail think you are, for the purposes of addressing post. Doesn't correspond to any of the first three options. On 2016-03-06 16:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > >> Am 06.03.2016 um 11:28 schrieb moltonel

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to Change Road Classification, Road Surface, Road Condition, and Add Number of Lanes

sent from a phone > Am 06.03.2016 um 11:28 schrieb moltonel : > > City limits rarely match the limits of urban areas. On one extreme there are > multi-city agglomerations, on the other there are rural areas that are inside > cities, for example in France where there is no

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

sent from a phone > Am 06.03.2016 um 15:35 schrieb Simon Poole : > > * for a small number of well defined and documented sub-keys it is not > particular nice, but can be tolerated. +1, I'd also like to see this as a generally rare exception and not as a good way to

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

`sells:bread:sourdough:loaf:hovis=yes` It’s probably worth mentioning that we also can’t support a tagging scheme like this in iD presets. We don’t have a UI for free tagging things that go in the key part of the tag. (It’s the same problem with `seamark:` namespaced tags, which we also can’t

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

On 7/03/2016 2:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 06.03.2016 um 15:35 schrieb Simon Poole : * for a small number of well defined and documented sub-keys it is not particular nice, but can be tolerated. +1, I'd also like to see this as a generally rare

Re: [Tagging] sloped_curb, kerb and god knows what left in limbo ......

On 02.03.2016 17:42, Simon Poole wrote: > While the abandoned proposal seems to be more complete and I can't > say anything about the other variant because of the lacking > documentation, I don't really care either way, it would simply > make easier if we could come to some consensus on what the

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (relation "associatedAddress" (new)

Hi. Please take a look for this proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AssociatedAddress_(new) I'm sorry if it is double message. -- Best regards, Alexandr (LLlypuk82) sani...@yandex.by ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

Hi, On 03/07/2016 12:11 AM, Warin wrote: > So you would prefer > sells=motorcycle;yamaha I don't think that OSM is the right place to encode an ontology of things. That there are different types of bread and different brands of motorcycles, and that a "Yamaha" is a motorcycle while a "Hovis" is

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to Change Road Classification, Road Surface, Road Condition, and Add Number of Lanes

You obviously did a lot of work in preparing your proposal and for that I thank you Alberto. However, I'm afraid I have to agree with Tom. To redefine the current highway tagging structure to the extent you suggest would be next to impossible given the free-thinking nature of many mappers, and any

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to Change Road Classification, Road Surface, Road Condition, and Add Number of Lanes

I truly find this proposal to be logical and well thought out. However, I think that there may be better ways to pursue these goals other than replacing the millions of ways on OSM tagged with the current schema. That said, I think there is room to add new tags that serves a similar purpose to

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:39 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Frankly, with OSM not being a business directory, I don't even think the > particulars about what a shop sells should be mapped, except perhaps in > some limited cases Frederik, please list those cases, as I want to

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

Hi, On 03/07/2016 06:47 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Is e.g. brand for shop=car, amenity=fuel, amenity=bank acceptable ? The word "brand" has its root in the process of marking live animals with a glowing "branding iron" to identify their owner. I understand "brand" in OSM as a tag that we apply to

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 02:39:52 +0100 Frederik Ramm wrote: > Just imagine what would happen if > someone took it upon them to actually list all the products sold at a > supermarket. And update that once a week. I see no problem with that except that anybody would quickly give

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

Hi, On 03/07/2016 07:54 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> Just imagine what would happen if >> someone took it upon them to actually list all the products sold at a >> supermarket. And update that once a week. > I see no problem with that except that anybody would quickly give up and > overall

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

On 7/03/2016 12:39 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 03/07/2016 12:11 AM, Warin wrote: So you would prefer sells=motorcycle;yamaha I don't think that OSM is the right place to encode an ontology of things. That there are different types of bread and different brands of motorcycles, and that a

Re: [Tagging] Draft of proposal tag 'sells' for shops..

Thanks Frederik, that makes sense to me. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/07/2016 06:47 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: >> Is e.g. brand for shop=car, amenity=fuel, amenity=bank acceptable ? > > The word "brand" has its root in the process of