Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ok, the discussion at least came to an agreement that this: https://imgur.com/a/U8SXn is not a man_made=lighthouse. We have A LOT of those mapped as lighthouses (I think the majority of that tag is on the wrong element). One reason is rendering, and we have to start rendering something. The

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 18/01/2018 13:52, Janko Mihelić wrote: I looked at man_made=beacon. Taginfo says we have about 7 000 of those, and the wiki shows something that resembles what we are talking about, but not quite: man_made=beacon *is* the appropriate tag for such structures. Tags in the "seamark"

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
čet, 18. sij 2018. u 15:27 Malcolm Herring napisao je: > man_made=beacon *is* the appropriate tag for such structures. Tags in > the "seamark" namespace relate only to the *navigational function* of an > object, not the physical form. Many beacon objects have no

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 18/01/2018 15:27, Janko Mihelić wrote: I'm in the process of making a new icon, and I can make a pull request on the openstreetmap-carto soon. That is good - maybe it will prevent mappers using "lighthouse" just so that a symbol is placed on the map. I have added some more examples of

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks and cycleways as tags vs as extra lines and StreetComplete

2018-01-18 Thread Dave F
You've either misread the paragraph or misused the asterisk. Roads can have a separate cycle path running parallel to it *and* a designated cycle lane in the road. DaveF On 16/01/2018 19:31, Fernando Trebien wrote: Second paragraph here:

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shop areas in a shopping mall ?

2018-01-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 17.01.2018 23:16, OSMDoudou wrote: > There is a shopping mall here [1] for which a mapper detailed the inside > shops with a node for the "identity" and an area for the "physical > perimeter" of the shop inside the mall. [...] > Can you suggest tagging improvements ? My suggestion (based on

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks and cycleways as tags vs as extra lines and StreetComplete

2018-01-18 Thread Fernando Trebien
"Note that a cycle track may alternatively be drawn as a separate way next to the road which is tagged as highway=cycleway. Both methods each have their pros and cons. While adding a single tag to an existing way takes less time and still often describes the cycle track accurately, a separately

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shop areas in a shopping mall ?

2018-01-18 Thread marc marc
Le 17. 01. 18 à 23:16, OSMDoudou a écrit : > an area for the "physical perimeter" of the shop inside the mall. > [3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/96140107 this area is not a building. it's a indoor stuff. > I gave a read at the Wiki on indoor tagging, but I couldn't find > something

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks and cycleways as tags vs as extra lines and StreetComplete

2018-01-18 Thread Volker Schmidt
Two nice examples of complex cases, which in my view would be best tagged using the cycleway=lane tag *and* separate foot- and cycle-ways (both are at present not yet correctly tagged in OSM) mapillary.com/map/im/kRr5NPEzjLiwDsHWdAL-aw (from

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks and cycleways as tags vs as extra lines and StreetComplete

2018-01-18 Thread Dave F
On 18/01/2018 21:02, Fernando Trebien wrote: I think this means... if the track is mapped as a different line with highway=cycleway, you should not add cycleway=* on the main road's line. one should surely use cycleway=lane on the main way and also map the parallel track as a separate line.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shop areas in a shopping mall ?

2018-01-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
With areas already mapped there is no reason to do that. On 19 Jan 2018 8:54 a.m., "Mateusz Konieczny" wrote: > Yes, just move tags from nodes to areas, delete invalid building tags and > no longer necessary nodes. > > On 18 Jan 2018 9:36 p.m., "Tobias Knerr"

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shop areas in a shopping mall ?

2018-01-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Yes, just move tags from nodes to areas, delete invalid building tags and no longer necessary nodes. On 18 Jan 2018 9:36 p.m., "Tobias Knerr" wrote: > On 17.01.2018 23:16, OSMDoudou wrote: > > There is a shopping mall here [1] for which a mapper detailed the inside > >

Re: [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle

2018-01-18 Thread Volker Schmidt
I suppose Osmose uses the country specific tables in [1] The table for Belgium states that bicycle=no is implicit for "highway=trunk". Hence the short way in question would need to have the additional tag "bicycle=yes" for bicycle routing to pass along that cycle lane. The road signs out there

Re: [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle

2018-01-18 Thread OSMDoudou
I didn't know about that page. It makes sense. Thx. -Original Message- From: "Volker Schmidt" Sent: ‎18-‎01-‎18 09:39 To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle I

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 19/01/18 13:23, Steve Doerr wrote: Here's the OED definition: 'A tower or other structure, with a powerful light or lights (originally a beacon) at the top, erected at some important or dangerous point on or near the sea-coast for the guidance of mariners.' That's pretty much the

Re: [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle

2018-01-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:45 PM, OSMDoudou < 19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > Hello, > > > > This is a two-fold question in fact. > > > > (A) > > > > Osmose raises error "Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle" [1] on a > segment of the R50 highway [2] [3]. > > > > I'm

Re: [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle

2018-01-18 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 01/17/2018 03:45 PM, OSMDoudou wrote: > (B) > > This issue raises the question whether R50 should be tagged as trunk in > the first place. > > The Wiki page [6] refers to notions like "high performance" and road > signs F9. But the road is limited to 70 km/h and there are no F9 signs > on the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shop areas in a shopping mall ?

2018-01-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Or just tag the individual shops as nodes rather than mark the walls in? On 19 January 2018 at 09:21, marc marc wrote: > > maybe start with an indoor=yes without building tag on all indoor areas. > > ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 19/01/18 00:52, Janko Mihelić wrote: Ok, the discussion at least came to an agreement that this: https://imgur.com/a/U8SXn is not a man_made=lighthouse. Don't be too sure about that. I thought that we could all agree that a lighthouse had some thing to do with light and houses, but it

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Steve Doerr
On 19/01/2018 02:16, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 19/01/18 00:52, Janko Mihelić wrote: Ok, the discussion at least came to an agreement that this: https://imgur.com/a/U8SXn is not a man_made=lighthouse. Don't be too sure about that. I thought that we could all agree that a lighthouse had

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 19/01/18 01:25, Malcolm Herring wrote: On 18/01/2018 13:52, Janko Mihelić wrote: It is important mappers doing a surveys can apply correct tags to observed objects without any knowledge of their function. Interesting tagging theory there. So I can only tag: highway=road because you

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 19/01/18 13:23, Steve Doerr wrote: Depends what you mean by 'houses'. I was hoping we meant in the sense of providing space for. As in this structure houses a light. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org