Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 25.03.2019 um 13:57 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny : > > My expectation is that > > - shop=plumber is poorly tagged office of a plumber > - shop=plumbing is unclear tagging of shop with primarily plumbing supplies > - shop=plumbing_supplies is a good name for plumbing

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 7:45 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am 25.03.2019 um 18:57 schrieb Kevin Kenny : > > A country_store is something I think of as usually being located > outside a village because they need a lot more space. They'll offer > feed, seed, fertilizer, garden tools, and similar

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 25.03.2019 um 18:57 schrieb Kevin Kenny : > > A country_store is something I think of as usually being located > outside a village because they need a lot more space. They'll offer > feed, seed, fertilizer, garden tools, and similar supplies. They often > have nurseries

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Marc Gemis
> My conclusion is that this is an old shop type, currently getting rare but > there are still some valid uses > but many cases would benefit from retagging to more popular shop values > (where shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store describes it well). Please add

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 25.03.2019 um 16:00 schrieb Paul Allen : > > I have to ask what purpose is served by deprecating general. If it were an > EXACT synonym of > one of the other shop types then remove it. But it's not. There are a lot > of grey areas in shop > types, so it makes sense

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 25, 2019, 9:57 PM by p...@trigpoint.me.uk: > On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 13:57 -0400, Kevin Kenny wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 11:44 AM Mateusz Konieczny >> <>> matkoni...@tutanota.com >> > wrote: >> > My conclusion is that this is an old shop type,

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-25 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:38:09 +1100 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/03/19 21:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > > > >> Am 23.03.2019 um 15:12 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier : > >> > >> Mosque complex: tag the whole plot (often the perimeter is also > >>

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-25 Thread Topographe Fou
Hi, Personnaly I already use amenity=* for the whole plot/complex when it's clear it is not limited to a building. This apply to schools, hospitals and places of worship (not exhaustive list) in my way of tagging. I believe this is how schools and hospitals are suggested to be mapped and see

Re: [Tagging] tags for a rain gauge

2019-03-25 Thread Steve Doerr
On 25/03/2019 00:24, Warin wrote: weather:ombrometer=yes [...] Note. I'd much rather use weather:rain_gauge=yes. Thoughts? I agree. The /Oxford English Dictionary/ tags /ombrometer/ as 'Now /rare/'. -- Steve --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes as relations?

2019-03-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 25.03.2019 um 01:34 schrieb marc marc : > > So the plateform/waiting area for a route=bus is part of the route > relation but not a plateform/waiting area of a route=ferry ? the platform / waiting area of a bus isn’t part of the bus route either. The stop is part.

Re: [Tagging] tags for a rain gauge

2019-03-25 Thread Andrew Davidson
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Steve Doerr wrote: > I agree. The *Oxford English Dictionary* tags *ombrometer* as 'Now *rare* > '. > I'll second that. Rain gauge is already more common https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=weather%3A ___ Tagging

[Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
What is the difference between these shops? My expectation is that - shop=plumber is poorly tagged office of a plumber - shop=plumbing is unclear tagging of shop with primarily plumbing supplies - shop=plumbing_supplies is a good name for plumbing supplies shop but rarely used

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Paul Johnson
A small footprint, full service version of a Fred Meyer or Walmart? Kind of feel country store isn't sure if it wants to be like Atwoods or the strangely named Tractor Supply, or if it wants to be like Cracker Barrel or Boot Barn, or if it's analogous to a feed store. On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 08:46

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 25, 2019, 3:22 PM by p...@trigpoint.me.uk: > I would assume a general store sells a much wider range of goods than a > convenience store. Food and hardware for example. > In situations matching your description I think that either shop=supermarket or shop=country_store would fit. I am

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 14:36, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > In situations matching your description I think that either > shop=supermarket or shop=country_store would fit. > There used to be a shop near me which wouldn't really match country_store, convenience, variety, or hardware. It sold a

[Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Is there any reason for shop=general and shop=general_store to keep existing? It seems that all cases are covered by better defined and named shop=convenience shop=supermarket shop=country_store ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 25, 2019, 4:00 PM by pla16...@gmail.com: > On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 14:36, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> In situations matching your description I think that either shop=supermarket >> or shop=country_store would fit. >> > >

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-25 Thread ael via Tagging
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 01:57:35PM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > What is the difference between these shops? > > My expectation is that > > - shop=plumber is poorly tagged office of a plumber > - shop=plumbing is unclear tagging of shop with primarily plumbing supplies > -

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-25 Thread Marc Gemis
I wonder whether you will ever get the right answers to this type of questions on this mailing list. Only if people on this list have used those tags themselves or interacted with people using the "wrong" tags you might get an idea of what is going on. Otherwise, it seems to me that we just might

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 25, 2019, 4:11 PM by o...@westnordost.de: > Well, there is a long wp article about it with a clear description for a > start. > It seems to be quite useful, thanks (I usually skip Wikipedia because 1:1 matches with osm tags are really rare). I updated wiki page again ending with following

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Philip Barnes
I would assume a general store sells a much wider range of goods than a convenience store. Food and hardware for example. Phil (trigpoint) On Monday, 25 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is there any reason for shop=general and shop=general_store to keep existing? > > It seems that all

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Tobias Zwick
Well, there is a long wp article about it with a clear description for a start. From that I understand, general stores are tiny department stores - i.e. a hyper market is to a convenience store as a department store is to a general store. As it is about what they are selling, not where they

[Tagging] Feature Proposal -- Voting -- shop=fashion_accessories

2019-03-25 Thread Markus
Hello list, I've opened the fashion accessory shop proposal for voting: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Fashion_accessory_shop Best regards Markus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] shop=plumber vs shop=plumbing vs shop=plumbing_supplies

2019-03-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 25, 2019, 4:30 PM by marc.ge...@gmail.com: > I wonder whether you will ever get the right answers to this type of > questions on this mailing list. > Only if people on this list have used those tags themselves or > interacted with people using the "wrong" tags you might get an idea of >

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/03/2019 15:00, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 14:36, Mateusz Konieczny mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> wrote: In situations matching your description I think that either shop=supermarket or shop=country_store would fit. There used to be a shop near me which wouldn't

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 11:44 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > My conclusion is that this is an old shop type, currently getting rare but > there are still some valid uses > but many cases would benefit from retagging to more popular shop values > (where shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

2019-03-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 13:57 -0400, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 11:44 AM Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > My conclusion is that this is an old shop type, currently getting > > rare but there are still some valid uses > > but many cases would benefit from retagging to more popular