23 Jan 2020, 19:14 by europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com:
> operation_status = XXX - for fountains which are not operational on a
> specific sighting
>
In such case I would add an OSM note
and ask for a resurvey.
And report issue to local government.
With this tag it is hard to guess
whatever it
"for instance in France a car driver crossing a sidewalk must give way
> to others" says the wiki page. Presumably this is a different legal
> case than at a crosswalk in France.
>
In Nederland, if traffic has to cross a sidewalk to get onto a road, it
must give way to all other traffic when
I made a quick sketch:
https://photos.smugmug.com/OSM/Screenshots/Screenshots-1/i-w92ZnDZ/0/90e60837/X4/Bezuidenhoutseweg%20-%20Google%20Maps-X4.png
Of course, this info is then only available for the cars following the
blue road. Cycling navigation along de Bezuidenhoutseweg will not be
able to
So for pedestrians, you would add a node on the blue line where it crosses
the centerline of the sidewalk tagged highway=crossing,
crossing=?
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 24 jan. 2020 om 10:48 schreef Marc Gemis :
> I made a quick sketch:
>
>
23 Jan 2020, 22:49 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com:
> a contributor spends time trying to find the meaning of these words and
> replaces the name with a modern version, absent both from the ground and>
> from use
>
Why someone would do this?
Such edits should be reverted.
Is it a theoretical
In Nederland, if traffic has to cross a sidewalk to get onto a road, it
> must give way to all other traffic when leaving the sidewalk. In effect,
> this cancels the priority to the right. rule.That makes it different from a
> zebra crossing, which does give priority to pedestrians, but does not
>
Same thing in Nederland.
Best, Peter Elderson
Op vr 24 jan. 2020 om 10:55 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com>:
> In Germany, this is how the beginning / end of living streets work:
>
> http://www.gablenberger-klaus.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/K-Spielstra%C3%9Fe-1.jpg
>
Add a node where the way, which represents the road for the cars,
crosses the cycleway. There does not have to be a way representing the
cycleway. We do the same for zebra crossings for pedestrians all the
time. We add the node where the path that the pedestrians have to
follow crosses the road
In Germany, this is how the beginning / end of living streets work:
http://www.gablenberger-klaus.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/K-Spielstra%C3%9Fe-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Drosselweg.JPG
Cheers
Martin
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So "active" is ment in geological time... rather wide for OSM :-)
How to tag its recent activity, ie for touristic purposes?
Il ven 24 gen 2020, 14:40 Christoph Hormann ha scritto:
> On Friday 24 January 2020, Cascafico Giovanni wrote:
> >
> > Which is the criteria to tag volcanoes as
There is some documentation
athttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dvolcano
Note that wiki is not binding and may be wrong.
Also, there are apparently multiple ways
to classify volcano activity
See for example https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_volcanoes
24 Jan
I am against transforming OSM into an etymological dictionary. While etymological research is of
course valuable, such results are not easily verifiable for other users, and overload the tagging of
objects that have plenty of tags in current languages already.
There are systems like
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 09:12, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> Il ven 24 gen 2020, 11:51 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> ha scritto:
>> One of topics often appearing is mismatch between meaning of key
>> and key text.
>> ...
>> It is created at
>>
highway=give_way would not map the situation, just the priority. Maybe it's
just me, but I think highway=give_way is an unclear tag. Who gives way to
who, in what direction?
I think it is better to tag it as a type of crossing. Can be rendered, can
be routed.
Best, Peter Elderson
Op vr 24 jan.
> So for pedestrians, you would add a node on the blue line where it crosses
> the centerline of the sidewalk tagged highway=crossing,
> crossing=?
yes (or combine the crossing for pedestrians and cyclists into one node)
and you can add a highway=give_way (or stop) near the node for the
kerb
These are no mismatches.
Keys and values are in principle arbitrary sequences of alphanumeric
characters. By convention we try to make them mnemonic by using strings
that somehow help us remember the meaning of the string. By convention we
use British English words for keys and values, plus
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 8:40 AM Christoph Hormann wrote:
> Reason for the lack of verifiability is that what an active volcano is
> in almost all uses of this term does not depend on the current state of
> the volcano but on its history - most commonly during the holocene (10k
> years) or during
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 8:59 AM Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> I am against transforming OSM into an etymological dictionary. While
> etymological research is of
> course valuable, such results are not easily verifiable for other users, and
> overload the tagging of
> objects that have plenty of tags in
One of topics often appearing is mismatch between meaning of key
and key text.
Especially among newbies interested in discussions.
"why we use natural=water for man made canals?"
"why we tag man made beaches as natural=?"
"Lets migrate natural=water to landcover=water".
So far I was basically
vHello ML!
this query [1] is supposed to display active volcanes. I made some
research using Sentinel-2 browser, but it happens that most volcanoes
doesn't have an infrared response [2].
Which is the criteria to tag volcanoes as volcano:status=active?
[1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Q3E
[2]
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 10:06, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> && Deleting a non-functioning fountain node, is discouraged
> But in case of removed structure deletion
> of node is encouraged.
>
There are some (I'm one of them) who would say that if the
On Friday 24 January 2020, Cascafico Giovanni wrote:
>
> Which is the criteria to tag volcanoes as volcano:status=active?
That tag is practically non-verifiable and therefore does not really
belong in OSM. But since everyone is free to add any tags they want in
OSM such tags of course exist.
On 24/01/20 15:52, Cascafico Giovanni wrote:
How to tag its recent activity, ie for touristic purposes?
Maybe a last_eruption:date=* tag (with a documented source) could be
enough do define recent activities?
Ale
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Jan 24, 2020, 15:34 by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 8:40 AM Christoph Hormann wrote:
>
>> Reason for the lack of verifiability is that what an active volcano is
>> in almost all uses of this term does not depend on the current state of
>> the volcano but on its history -
Jan 24, 2020, 18:19 by vosc...@gmail.com:
> Human readability is a convenience, but is not reflected in the data
> structure at all.
>
I strongly disagree with this. Nearly all tags are human readable, with rare
exception
like extremely complicated opening hours or wikidata (where lack of human
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 2:38 PM Paul Allen wrote:
> But "active" is too broad a term to be meaningful, I think.
Well, then, let's clarify the intention, narrow the definition, choose
a more appropriate keyword if necessary, wikify the narrowed
definition, and use that, rather than rejecting the
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 14:04:21 +0100
Cascafico Giovanni wrote:
> vHello ML!
> this query [1] is supposed to display active volcanes. I made some
> research using Sentinel-2 browser, but it happens that most volcanoes
> doesn't have an infrared response [2].
>
> Which is the criteria to tag
As a person living 50km from an "active" but dormant volcano, Mount Baker
[1], I definitely know its status. What I'm not sure of is the OP
definition of active. Mount Baker is an active but dormant volcano that
only puts out a bit of steam. For a while, in my life time, Arenal in Costa
Rica was
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 19:22, Mark Wagner wrote:
>
> "Active" is too vague to be mapped.
>
+1
Like Kevin Kenny, I have no problem with allowing for different levels of
expertise. I have no problem with making use of expert sources (as long
as there is a good consensus and their opinions are
Hallo Florimon,
could you eleborate the differnce between your proposal as opposed to
using "traffic_calming=hump" (you mention "traffic_calming=table" on the
wiki page) in conjunction with "highway=crossing" like on this node:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1962458951
Jan 24, 2020, 13:50 by pla16...@gmail.com:
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 10:06, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <>
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
>
>>
>> && Deleting a non-functioning fountain node, is discouraged
>> But in case of removed structure deletion
>> of node is encouraged.
>>
>
>
Jan 24, 2020, 15:34 by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com:
> That's often entirely verifiable by the existence of human artefacts
> damaged by a previous eruption.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:23 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
wrote:
> But it is not verifiable in practice by amateur surveyors.
>
>
..or follow the Wikidata:id and link out to another data source like
https://volcano.si.edu/ to avoid transient data in OSM
On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 15:24 Alessandro Sarretta, <
alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 24/01/20 15:52, Cascafico Giovanni wrote:
> > How to tag its recent activity,
OK,
my wording was intentionally provoking. But this basic conceptual issue is
at the base of many unnecessary tagging modifications.
I refrained from adding the OSM version of the duck principle.
One of the items in the proposed page illustrates well why I think people
need to get the message
On Friday 24 January 2020, Cascafico Giovanni wrote:
> So "active" is ment in geological time... rather wide for OSM :-)
No, the tag does not have a consistent meaning, it simply means some
mapper has at some point subjectively considered this feature to be an
active volcano.
> How to tag its
Hi,
Back in 2018 all countries in the European Union were forced to switch
their naming scheme for fuels at gas stations to the new E5/E10/B7 scheme
(referring to the amount of bio-ethanol in the fuel.
Sources:
http://www.flanderstoday.eu/petrol-98-and-95-labels-change-next-week
Rather than "Mismatching key names", what about "Counterintuitive key
names"?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:20 AM Volker Schmidt wrote:
> OK,
> my wording was intentionally provoking. But this basic conceptual issue is
> at the base of many unnecessary tagging modifications.
> I refrained from
What are the features of a continuous sidewalk ?
The main feature is to have a... continuous sidewalk, which means the
layout of the sidewalk is the same before, at the junction and after. If
you look only at the sidewalk you would not see any difference in surface
or height. (At least for the
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