>
>1. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
> (Markus Peloso)
>
>>>> Markus, it seems to me that the definition is partially related to
context, but I am definitely not an authority and defer to those with
experience. Describing a café as having
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5. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
(Florimond Berthoux)
>>>> Hello Florimond, While I don't necessarily feel the solution you pro
Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 23:47, Joseph Eisenberg
a écrit :
>
> Thank you for pointing out the tag "drinking_water=yes/no"
>
> Looking at the wiki page for this tag and for the related tag
> amenity=drinking_water, it is strongly implied that this is for a
> drinking water supply which is
_water:container=*
>
> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 22:09, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> 5. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
>>> (Florimond Berthoux)
>>> >>>> Hello Flor
er Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> 5. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
>> (Florimond Berthoux)
>> >>>> Hello Florimond, While I don't necessarily feel the solution you
propose is preferable, I do share your love of KISS thoug
>
> 5. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
> (Florimond Berthoux)
> >>>> Hello Florimond, While I don't necessarily feel the solution you
> propose is preferable, I do share your love of KISS though.
>
I have tried to fairly incorporate the
Hi, I go quickly through the email thread and didn't saw the simple
solution:
use drinking_water
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water
«drinking_water=* indicates whether a feature provides drinking water,
specifically whether water is drinkable for humans. »
So if a cafe provide
>
>
>
>1. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
> (Jyri-Petteri Paloposki)
>>>>> Jyri-Petteri Yes. information regarding on whether or not a
restaurant serves "free" water to a paying customer, is not part of our
project is
On 14.1.2020 13.06, Simon Poole wrote:
Currently I see the usual problem that the discussion is trying to solve
the general problem. Is anybody actually interested in if free water is
dispensed in other than bring your own container/bottle scenarios?
IMO this is also an interesting concept
/bottle scenarios?
Simon
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:57:02 +0100
> From: Hauke Stieler <mailto:m...@hauke-stieler.de>>
> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging@openst
> free_water:container =
bring_your_own is very explicit.
but "provided" or "establishment" is ambiguous.
from my experience, drinking a free glass of water in a cafe is not at
all the same as receiving a container filled with water (I have never
encountered this case).
so the choice should be
sent from a phone
> On 14. Jan 2020, at 10:13, European Water Project
> wrote:
>
> free_water = I think allowing yes is ambiguous and can lead to confusion, but
> if that is what is most acceptable fine. Someone could use yes to describe
> customers.
>
> I would suggest
>
> free_water =
Le 14.01.20 à 10:00, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit :
> if you have to buy something in order to get "free" water,
> it isn't free, is it? It's included.
you're right, I often make that remark in everyday life.
but in osm terminology, how would you inform the private and free
swimming pool for
>
> 3. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
> (Joseph Eisenberg)
>
>>>>> Joseph, on the contrary. The bluntness demonstrates the clarity of
the system. We want a tagging system that is acceptable to the community
and widely adapted (with enf
Am Mo., 13. Jan. 2020 um 22:51 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>:
> free_water_table= or free_water:table= will be confusing for places
> that sell take-out food and don't have tables, for examples small
> fast-food restaurants, convenience shops, etc.
>
> The word
ow if you want to get these tags official approved. It is not
required, but sometimes it can be helpful if you want more people to
discuss your ideas and the new tags to be displayed more prominently
on the wiki.
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process for this option.)
- Joseph Eisen
>
>
> 1. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant (Paul Allen)
>
>>>> Paul, thanks for your comment, I see your point
What do you think of ?
free_water =
free_water:container =
2. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
> (Joseph Eisenb
free_water_table= or free_water:table= will be confusing for places
that sell take-out food and don't have tables, for examples small
fast-food restaurants, convenience shops, etc.
The word "customers" should be included, since what you are trying to
specify is that "you can only get free water
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 20:52, Hauke Stieler wrote:
>
> What does "must_consume" mean?
>
free_water=must_consume means exactly what it says. Anybody who
enters will be given free water and they MUST consume it. Or else. So
we need a tag to specify the punishment if they refuse to consume the
Hi Stuart
> I could see :
> free_water =
> free_water:container =
> free_water:table=
If something is for the general public (= anyone) the value is usually
"yes" (as at the "access" tag [0]) and then there are further
restricting values (when there's a "yes" there's mostly at least also a
ally take for the tag allocation decision process to
be completed? Do you have an example wiki proposal page ?
Best regards,
Stuart
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:57:02 +0100
> From: Hauke Stieler
> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging
Hi Stuart,
> The proposal below does not seem optimal, but if that is what is decided
> we will write wiki instructions in this manner.
No decisions have been made so far. Currently all these mails just
contain ideas and discussions.
I'm personally a fan of the namespace scheme, the one with
13 Jan 2020, 14:04 by europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com:
> Hello,
>
BTW, thanks for consulting with
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 14:26:13 +0100
> From: Hauke Stieler
> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars,
> restaurant
> Message-ID: <75a599bd-f69a-b1f2-8cb6-ea0abed3a...@hauke-stieler.
sent from a phone
> On 13. Jan 2020, at 14:07, European Water Project
> wrote:
>
> How about free_water_refill=yes free_water_table=yes ?
free_water_refill at a restaurant or cafe
to me sounds as if you must buy water and get refills for free
Maybe we would want to distinguish getting
> I suggest something like
"free_water:container=*" to make clear that the container "availability"
refers to the refill service.
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Hi,
> This model is used for many other tags in OSM. One of the most
> fundamental tags, access=*, uses it to show "access only for customers"
> for example.
> See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Dcustomers .
> free_water=customers would not look out of place at all in that list.
fore handing to
the barman ... to reduce the possibility of germ contamination.
This being said, I can see the usefulness of this tag understand the
usefulness of this tag (although we will exclude container=supplier from
our application display.
Best regards,
Stuart
>
>
> Today's Topics
On 2020-01-13 12:18, European Water Project wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 1)
> free_water=yes if it is available to anybody, and free_water=customers is
> very confusing and people will mis-tag free water for paying customers as
> free_water=yes
This model is used for many other tags in OSM. One of
..
Their board will not entertain an open data model.
Best regards,
Stuart
PS : I hope
>
>6. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
> (Jake Edmonds)
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date
I’ve heard of places not refilling water bottles due to hygiene reasons
(whether that is a concern or not is a separate discussion) but will give a
glass of water to whoever asks. And on the opposite side, there are places that
will refill bottles but won’t give a glass a water.
> On 13 Jan
13 Jan 2020, 10:42 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl:
>
> How about free_water=yes if it is available to anybody, and
> free_water=customers if it is only available to paying customers?
>
>
+1
And free_water=no for explicit tagging of not providing a free water.
> I assume this could actually apply to
On 2020-01-13 10:18, European Water Project wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I thought this subject could wait, but it is becoming pressing early than I
> expected.
>
> As part of our project (and that of similar non-profits - most of which are
> not open data but nevertheless great organisations),
I’m in support of something.
Did you speak to Refill about sharing data? I emailed them some time back but
never received a response
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> On 13 Jan 2020, at 10:20, European Water Project
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> I thought this subject could wait, but it
Dear All,
I thought this subject could wait, but it is becoming pressing early than I
expected.
As part of our project (and that of similar non-profits - most of which are
not open data but nevertheless great organisations), we want to voluntarily
encourage cafés, bars and restaurants to offer
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