Re: [Tagging] pavement placed plaque

2019-12-20 Thread Andy Townsend

On 20/12/2019 20:41, ael wrote:

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 06:02:50PM +, Dave F via Tagging wrote:

Hi

I've a carved stone plaque(?) that's fixed flush into the pavement. it's to
indicate the start/finish point of a long distance walk.
https://whatsdavedoing.com/cotswold-way-guide/#start

Two questions:

1 Is plaque the best name? Our Wiki quotes Wikipedia as it being vertical,
but that seems a bit restrictive to me.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dplaque
  
  It seems to be a sort of waymark to me. As far as I can see, we don't

  have a generic tag for waymarks, although there are lots of special
  cases like milestons. Perhaps we should have a waymark tag with subtags
  for material and orientation?


Here's one I made earlier:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6960819404

I went with "tourism=information; information=stone" to parallel 
"information=guidepost" and "information=route_marker" which are more 
commonly used as route markers.


Another example (tagged slightly differently, that probably wouldn't 
work for the Cotswold Way one) is:


https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1651183163

Another one (not part of a route this time) is

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6785704793

That one is a stone flush with the pavement nd sounds a bit like yours 
but perhaps a bit more arty.


Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Tagging] pavement placed plaque

2019-12-20 Thread ael
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 06:02:50PM +, Dave F via Tagging wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I've a carved stone plaque(?) that's fixed flush into the pavement. it's to
> indicate the start/finish point of a long distance walk.
> https://whatsdavedoing.com/cotswold-way-guide/#start
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1 Is plaque the best name? Our Wiki quotes Wikipedia as it being vertical,
> but that seems a bit restrictive to me.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dplaque
 
 It seems to be a sort of waymark to me. As far as I can see, we don't
 have a generic tag for waymarks, although there are lots of special
 cases like milestons. Perhaps we should have a waymark tag with subtags
 for material and orientation?

 ael


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Re: [Tagging] pavement placed plaque

2019-12-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 18:03, Dave F via Tagging 
wrote:

>
> 1 Is plaque the best name? Our Wiki quotes Wikipedia as it being vertical,
> but that seems a bit restrictive to me.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dplaque
>

The wiki actually says "typically attached to a wall, stone, or other
vertical
surface."  Typically, not always.  I've seen memorial plaques that are about
30 degrees to the horizontal.

2. Are there any alternatives to 'memorial' which again, seems too
> specific/restrictive,  tourism=information, information=plaque maybe?


For the example you give, calling it a memorial seems wrong.  It isn't
commemorating
anything.  memorial=plaque is often used with historic=memorial.  The wiki
for that
says "A feature for tagging smaller memorials usually remembering special
persons,
peoples lost their lives in the wars, past events or missing places."

I'd say that tourism=information + information=plaque is better.  You could
maybe
go with tourism=information + information=board + board_type=geography but
few people would expect to see a horizontal board.  Since information says
user-defined values are OK then information=plaque.

If somebody can come up with a word for plaques set in the ground, then go
with that.

-- 
Paul
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[Tagging] pavement placed plaque

2019-12-20 Thread Dave F via Tagging

Hi

I've a carved stone plaque(?) that's fixed flush into the pavement. it's 
to indicate the start/finish point of a long distance walk. 
https://whatsdavedoing.com/cotswold-way-guide/#start


Two questions:

1 Is plaque the best name? Our Wiki quotes Wikipedia as it being 
vertical, but that seems a bit restrictive to me.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dplaque

2. Are there any alternatives to 'memorial' which again, seems too 
specific/restrictive, tourism=information, information=plaque maybe?


Anybody have similar examples?

Cheers
DaveF
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