Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-28 Thread EthnicFood IsGreat
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:40:09 +0100 From: Topographe Fou To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along Hi, Personnaly I already use amenity=* for the whole plot/complex when it's clear it is n

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-25 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:38:09 +1100 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/03/19 21:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > > > >> Am 23.03.2019 um 15:12 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier : > >> > >> Mosque complex: tag the whole plot (often the perimeter is also > >>

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-25 Thread Topographe Fou
Hi, Personnaly I already use amenity=* for the whole plot/complex when it's clear it is not limited to a building. This apply to schools, hospitals and places of worship (not exhaustive list) in my way of tagging. I believe this is how schools and hospitals are suggested to be mapped and see

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-24 Thread Warin
On 25/03/19 10:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 24.03.2019 um 23:38 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: So the parking lot associated with a church has a religion? :) if you consider the specific parking a “religious landuse” then you will also be able to state which

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 24.03.2019 um 23:38 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > So the parking lot associated with a church has a religion? :) if you consider the specific parking a “religious landuse” then you will also be able to state which religion it is associated with.

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-24 Thread Warin
On 24/03/19 21:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 23.03.2019 um 15:12 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier : Mosque complex: tag the whole plot (often the perimeter is also barrier=wall): amenity=place_of_worship + religion=muslim So, no landuse=religious anymore at all and no

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-24 Thread Phake Nick
So, If I understand correctly, Mosque are more like a Islamic version Monastery? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 23.03.2019 um 15:12 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier : > > Mosque complex: tag the whole plot (often the perimeter is also barrier=wall): > amenity=place_of_worship + religion=muslim > > So, no landuse=religious anymore at all and no building=mosque for the > buildings inside

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I agree that the parking lot is part of the landuse. This is a good arguement for tagging landuse=religious forbtyh whole area, including parking lots, religious classrooms (eg Sunday School, Hebrew School etc), and religious office associated with the place of worship, while using

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Warin
On 24/03/19 10:52, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I believe that the form and functions of Mosques is variable. The original poster (Jean-Marc Liotier) said that they are mapping in the Sahel, the Muslim-majority region along the southern border of the Sahara desert in Africa. This is a semi-arid,

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I believe that the form and functions of Mosques is variable. The original poster (Jean-Marc Liotier) said that they are mapping in the Sahel, the Muslim-majority region along the southern border of the Sahara desert in Africa. This is a semi-arid, tropical region where most people are Sunni

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 17:41, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 23.03.2019 18:19, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > Until you mentioned outside prayer, the obvious solution to a building > complex would > > be a multipolygon. > > No, there is no MP needed. As there are several distinct objects used for >

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 23.03.2019 18:19, Paul Allen wrote: On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 17:05, Jean-Marc Liotier mailto:j...@liotier.org>> wrote: The case I have in mind is where the mosque is a complex of several buildings - such as the building for ritual ablutions, a separate prayer building for women,

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Jean-Marc Liotier writes: > On 3/23/19 6:04 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: >> I find the implicit rules really problematic, as we don't have a >> machine-readable repository of them that can be used to processs tags as >> they are to the full logical set of what they mean. > > So, should the

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 17:05, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > The case I have in mind is where the mosque is a complex of several > buildings - such as the building for ritual ablutions, a separate prayer > building for women, the outside prayer ground for days of large > gatherings, the toilets

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 3/23/19 6:04 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: I find the implicit rules really problematic, as we don't have a machine-readable repository of them that can be used to processs tags as they are to the full logical set of what they mean. So, should the amenity=place_of_worship complex have

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 14:13, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > And I'm not even Muslim ! > That makes two of us. I'm an infidel. An omni-infidel. It doesn't matter what faith somebody is, I am not of that faith. I have learned from Muslims and confirmed in literature that this > tagging scheme

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Jean-Marc Liotier writes: > On 3/23/19 5:28 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: >> Jean-Marc Liotier writes: >>> So, no landuse=religious anymore at all and no building=mosque for the >> I don't understand why you think landuse=religious shouldn't be >> present. It seems that all land used for religious

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 3/23/19 4:55 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 23.03.2019 15:12, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: The wikipedia article has some insight in the process, however it also mentions that a mosque can be a building. So, if the mosque is a building, tagging building=mosque would be fine. Yes, the case of a

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 3/23/19 5:28 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: Jean-Marc Liotier writes: So, no landuse=religious anymore at all and no building=mosque for the I don't understand why you think landuse=religious shouldn't be present. It seems that all land used for religious purposes should have that tag Redundancy

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Jean-Marc Liotier writes: > So, no landuse=religious anymore at all and no building=mosque for the I don't understand why you think landuse=religious shouldn't be present.It seems that all land used for religious purposes should have that tag, whether it's a smallish lot that just contains

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

2019-03-23 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 23.03.2019 15:12, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: I have learned from Muslims and confirmed in literature that this tagging scheme is wrong: what I considered as the mosque itself is merely the main prayer hall. The mosque is actually the whole complex that I used to tag as landuse=religious. So,