Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Francesco Ansanelli]

Hello,

I want to give you an example of how I described this feature (inclined
elevator) in my town..

First of all a master relation:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10433645

Then 2 relations:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10433643
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10433644

Please note that bicycle=yes at relation level.
Finally the way itself:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/358333577

In my opinion it's important to have a relation for this kind of features
(specially for access tags).

Please let me know what you think.

Francesco

Il sab 5 dic 2020, 01:44 Joseph Eisenberg  ha
scritto:

> I agree that the indoor or semi-indoor inclined elevators, which are fully
> enclosed and look completely similar to a vertical elevator, should be
> tagged as highway=elevator.
>
> Once they are outdoors and there are visible tracks it gets ambiguous.
>
> Since the Montmarte "funicular" is tagged as railway=funicular even though
> the pairs cars are now no longer connected to one cable, I think we can
> edit the Tag:railway=funicular page to mention that the tag is also used
> for similar cable-driven inclined railways which are not technically
> funiculars, but looks the same to the non-expert.
>
> -- Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:30 PM Guillaume Chauvat 
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for spamming.
>>
>> I also think it's fine if the Montmarte funicular is tagged as a
>> funicular. But I'm asking because of things that are clearly elevators,
>> like this one:
>> https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-tekniska-hgskolan-metro-station-stermalm-district-stockholm-sweden-41948022.html
>> . It goes on a path parallel to the escalators, not vertically (I have been
>> inside). To me it looks very wrong to call this a funicular. But maybe
>> others disagree...
>>
>> Guillaume
>>
>> On 2020-12-05 00:07, Clay Smalley wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 5:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also
>>> known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable railway in which a
>>> cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles on rails moves them up and
>>> down a steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles counterbalancing
>>> each other.”
>>>
>>> However, the description in the infobox (which is much more commonly
>>> seen in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven inclined railway”
>>> - and this could include many types of "inclined elevators” which mostly
>>> run on rails too. So mappers might be using railway=funicular for inclined
>>> elevators already.
>>>
>>
>> Indeed they are. For example, here's the Montmartre Funicular in Paris,
>> which was historically a true funicular but is now technically a pair of
>> inclined elevators: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29403578
>>
>> The distinction between a funicular and an inclined elevator is to me a
>> technical one. Many inclined elevators, like the previous example, are
>> named as funiculars, and passengers may not even notice that they are on
>> one or the other - for all they know, they're just on a vehicle going up
>> and down steeply sloped rails.
>>
>> I'm in favor of tagging inclined elevators as funiculars whenever they
>> may resemble one. Perhaps an additional tag like
>> railway:funicular=inclined_elevator could be invented for those interested
>> in the technical details on how the steep-slope-railway-thing works.
>>
>> -Clay
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Joseph Eisenberg]

I agree that the indoor or semi-indoor inclined elevators, which are fully
enclosed and look completely similar to a vertical elevator, should be
tagged as highway=elevator.

Once they are outdoors and there are visible tracks it gets ambiguous.

Since the Montmarte "funicular" is tagged as railway=funicular even though
the pairs cars are now no longer connected to one cable, I think we can
edit the Tag:railway=funicular page to mention that the tag is also used
for similar cable-driven inclined railways which are not technically
funiculars, but looks the same to the non-expert.

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:30 PM Guillaume Chauvat 
wrote:

> Sorry for spamming.
>
> I also think it's fine if the Montmarte funicular is tagged as a
> funicular. But I'm asking because of things that are clearly elevators,
> like this one:
> https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-tekniska-hgskolan-metro-station-stermalm-district-stockholm-sweden-41948022.html
> . It goes on a path parallel to the escalators, not vertically (I have been
> inside). To me it looks very wrong to call this a funicular. But maybe
> others disagree...
>
> Guillaume
>
> On 2020-12-05 00:07, Clay Smalley wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 5:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also
>> known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable railway in which a
>> cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles on rails moves them up and
>> down a steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles counterbalancing
>> each other.”
>>
>> However, the description in the infobox (which is much more commonly seen
>> in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven inclined railway” -
>> and this could include many types of "inclined elevators” which mostly run
>> on rails too. So mappers might be using railway=funicular for inclined
>> elevators already.
>>
>
> Indeed they are. For example, here's the Montmartre Funicular in Paris,
> which was historically a true funicular but is now technically a pair of
> inclined elevators: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29403578
>
> The distinction between a funicular and an inclined elevator is to me a
> technical one. Many inclined elevators, like the previous example, are
> named as funiculars, and passengers may not even notice that they are on
> one or the other - for all they know, they're just on a vehicle going up
> and down steeply sloped rails.
>
> I'm in favor of tagging inclined elevators as funiculars whenever they may
> resemble one. Perhaps an additional tag like
> railway:funicular=inclined_elevator could be invented for those interested
> in the technical details on how the steep-slope-railway-thing works.
>
> -Clay
>
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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Clay Smalley]

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 6:30 PM Guillaume Chauvat  wrote:

> Sorry for spamming.
>
> I also think it's fine if the Montmarte funicular is tagged as a
> funicular. But I'm asking because of things that are clearly elevators,
> like this one:
> https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-tekniska-hgskolan-metro-station-stermalm-district-stockholm-sweden-41948022.html
> . It goes on a path parallel to the escalators, not vertically (I have been
> inside). To me it looks very wrong to call this a funicular. But maybe
> others disagree...
>

I guess I missed the beginning of the discussion. I agree with you that
this particular inclined elevator doesn't really resemble a funicular and
shouldn't be tagged as such. If it's indoors or operates on demand by a
button press, tagging it as an elevator in some way would be more
appropriate (though I'm still unclear on the best way to do so).

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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Guillaume Chauvat]

Sorry for spamming.

I also think it's fine if the Montmarte funicular is tagged as a 
funicular. But I'm asking because of things that are clearly elevators, 
like this one: 
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-tekniska-hgskolan-metro-station-stermalm-district-stockholm-sweden-41948022.html 
. It goes on a path parallel to the escalators, not vertically (I have 
been inside). To me it looks very wrong to call this a funicular. But 
maybe others disagree...


Guillaume

On 2020-12-05 00:07, Clay Smalley wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 5:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg 
mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote:


The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular,
also known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable
railway in which a cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles
on rails moves them up and down a steep slope, the ascending and
descending vehicles counterbalancing each other.”

However, the description in the infobox (which is much more
commonly seen in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven
inclined railway” - and this could include many types of "inclined
elevators” which mostly run on rails too. So mappers might be
using railway=funicular for inclined elevators already.


Indeed they are. For example, here's the Montmartre Funicular in 
Paris, which was historically a true funicular but is now technically 
a pair of inclined elevators: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29403578


The distinction between a funicular and an inclined elevator is to me 
a technical one. Many inclined elevators, like the previous example, 
are named as funiculars, and passengers may not even notice that they 
are on one or the other - for all they know, they're just on a vehicle 
going up and down steeply sloped rails.


I'm in favor of tagging inclined elevators as funiculars whenever they 
may resemble one. Perhaps an additional tag like 
railway:funicular=inclined_elevator could be invented for those 
interested in the technical details on how the 
steep-slope-railway-thing works.


-Clay


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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Clay Smalley]

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 5:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg 
wrote:

> The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also
> known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable railway in which a
> cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles on rails moves them up and
> down a steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles counterbalancing
> each other.”
>
> However, the description in the infobox (which is much more commonly seen
> in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven inclined railway” -
> and this could include many types of "inclined elevators” which mostly run
> on rails too. So mappers might be using railway=funicular for inclined
> elevators already.
>

Indeed they are. For example, here's the Montmartre Funicular in Paris,
which was historically a true funicular but is now technically a pair of
inclined elevators: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29403578

The distinction between a funicular and an inclined elevator is to me a
technical one. Many inclined elevators, like the previous example, are
named as funiculars, and passengers may not even notice that they are on
one or the other - for all they know, they're just on a vehicle going up
and down steeply sloped rails.

I'm in favor of tagging inclined elevators as funiculars whenever they may
resemble one. Perhaps an additional tag like
railway:funicular=inclined_elevator could be invented for those interested
in the technical details on how the steep-slope-railway-thing works.

-Clay

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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Guillaume Chauvat]

My main issue with this is not technical details about how they work, 
but about how they are used. They look like an elevator, act like one 
and serve exactly the same purpose. You press a button, they come, the 
doors open, you press a button inside to go up or down, etc.

They are used on relatively short distances, often alongside escalators.
Funiculars to me look more like trains, and have a different 
connotation: something you have to buy a ticket for, that go longer 
distances, etc. In the end it's a common issue with categories being 
inherently fuzzy and we have to draw a distinction somewhere.


I would have no problem if the wiki instructed to model inclined 
elevators as funiculars even if it might not be technically correct.
But it isn't: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Delevator#How_to_Map_as_a_Way 
(and this page is also referenced from the funicular page) so there is 
an ambiguity.
How do I tag the inclined elevator close to where I live? With 
highway=elevator, as stated on the wiki and which seems more technically 
correct? But then the maps don't display it and it's typically not 
included in navigation software. Or do I tag it as a funicular because 
at least it will be displayed on maps, even though it's technically 
wrong and goes against the wiki?


This also creates a chicken an egg problem. Mappers don't use 
highway=elevator because it's not supported, and then developers may 
refuse to consider it because it's not commonly used...



Guillaume


On 2020-12-04 22:58, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:

I've looked into these.

Most inclined elevators seem to also operate with cables, with the 
difference being that in a funicular there are 2 cars attached to 1 
cable, so one ascends while the other descends, but in an inclined 
elevator each car (or there might only be 1 car) is attached to a 
counterweight or a winch.


Unfortunately it looks like most uses of the tag highway=elevator on a 
way are actually areas (closed ways):
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10S8 - 3080 highway=elevator ways are 
closed. A review of a few of these suggests they are mostly 4 node 
rectangular ways which represent the area of a verticle elevator. 
About half are tagged |indoor=room| - https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10Se

vs
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10S9 - 190 ways which are not closed. 
These look to be inclined elevators, though in some cases it’s not 
possible to tell if they might actually be a funicular instead.


While railway=funicular is 10 times as common, this might or might not 
represent the actual relative frequency of these features in the real 
world, I don’t know.


The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also 
known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable railway in 
which a cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles on rails moves 
them up and down a steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles 
counterbalancing each other.”


However, the description in the infobox (which is much more commonly 
seen in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven inclined 
railway” - and this could include many types of "inclined elevators” 
which mostly run on rails too. So mappers might be using 
railway=funicular for inclined elevators already.



-- Joseph Eisenberg


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mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:




On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 08:33, Guillaume Chauvat
mailto:guilla...@chauvat.eu>> wrote:

Yes, but this is a node, not a way. Inclined elevators require
a way and those are not displayed properly.


Sorry, didn't get what you were getting at!

Graeme

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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Joseph Eisenberg]

I've looked into these.

Most inclined elevators seem to also operate with cables, with the
difference being that in a funicular there are 2 cars attached to 1 cable,
so one ascends while the other descends, but in an inclined elevator each
car (or there might only be 1 car) is attached to a counterweight or a
winch.

Unfortunately it looks like most uses of the tag highway=elevator on a way
are actually areas (closed ways):
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10S8 - 3080 highway=elevator ways are closed. A
review of a few of these suggests they are mostly 4 node rectangular ways
which represent the area of a verticle elevator. About half are tagged
indoor=room - https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10Se
vs
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10S9 - 190 ways which are not closed. These
look to be inclined elevators, though in some cases it’s not possible to
tell if they might actually be a funicular instead.

While railway=funicular is 10 times as common, this might or might not
represent the actual relative frequency of these features in the real
world, I don’t know.

The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also
known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable railway in which a
cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles on rails moves them up and
down a steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles counterbalancing
each other.”

However, the description in the infobox (which is much more commonly seen
in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven inclined railway” -
and this could include many types of "inclined elevators” which mostly run
on rails too. So mappers might be using railway=funicular for inclined
elevators already.


-- Joseph Eisenberg

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:55 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 08:33, Guillaume Chauvat 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but this is a node, not a way. Inclined elevators require a way and
>> those are not displayed properly.
>>
>
> Sorry, didn't get what you were getting at!
>
> Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 08:33, Guillaume Chauvat  wrote:

> Yes, but this is a node, not a way. Inclined elevators require a way and
> those are not displayed properly.
>

Sorry, didn't get what you were getting at!

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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Guillaume Chauvat]

Yes, but this is a node, not a way. Inclined elevators require a way and those 
are not displayed properly.

On 3 December 2020 23:05:14 CET, Graeme Fitzpatrick  
wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 23:19, Guillaume Chauvat 
>wrote:
>
>> I used a way tagged with highway=elevator as the wiki recommends, but
>this
>> does not seem supported by any tool (the default editor, the map on
>> openstreetmap.org, or osmand).
>>
>
>Highway=elevator renders on the main map eg
>https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7803033418, & this also shows on
>OSMand+?
>
>Thanks
>
>Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 23:19, Guillaume Chauvat  wrote:

> I used a way tagged with highway=elevator as the wiki recommends, but this
> does not seem supported by any tool (the default editor, the map on
> openstreetmap.org, or osmand).
>

Highway=elevator renders on the main map eg
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7803033418, & this also shows on OSMand+?

Thanks

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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 3. Dec 2020, at 16:53, 德泉 談 via Tagging  wrote:
> 
> I think the description in OSM wiki looks fine. Not supported by osm-carto 
> and other tools needs to be reported by somebody, worth doing that.


+1, I would also think the wiki is fine, after all, a way seems the most 
sensible representation for these.

Try to raise awareness by the tools. 3200 instances is also a number which 
could be seen as worthy to include, pretty established for such a relatively 
rare feature.
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/highway=elevator

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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[德泉 談 via Tagging]

I'd taken both inclined elevator and funicular railway. I think it could seen 
as two different kind of things.

Inclined elevators travel with short distance in most of the time, their 
structure is quite different that it shouldn't be bracket with the other.

I think the description in OSM wiki looks fine. Not supported by osm-carto and 
other tools needs to be reported by somebody, worth doing that.

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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Guillaume Chauvat]

It is supported by the wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Delevator#How_to_Map_as_a_Way

There is an issue here, closed in 2016, "at least until a discussion on the 
tagging list suggests otherwise."
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1953

IMHO this is really an elevator and not a funicular, but I'd be happy to 
convert it to a funicular if it turns out to be the accepted usage.


Guillaume


On 03/12/2020 16:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> Is it both something that makes sense, accepted by community
> and supported by Wiki?
> 
> In such case, have you checked whatever this feature was already requested
> for mentioned software?
> 
> It is both rare(?) and tricky to implement in rendering, but editors have 
> greater freedom to handle
> this.
> 
> And it may be possible to support it at least partially, for example for 
> routing (in OsmAnd).
> 
> 
> Dec 3, 2020, 14:17 by guilla...@chauvat.eu:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My apologies if this has already been discussed several times or if it's 
> not the place to ask.
> 
> I was mapping a public inclined elevator in a dedicated building (it only 
> contains the elevator and three parallel escalators). This is really a 
> standard elevator running parallel to the escalators, not a funicular. Those 
> elevators are very common here in Sweden, although most often inside metro 
> stations.
> 
> What is the best way of mapping it? I used a way tagged with 
> highway=elevator as the wiki recommends, but this does not seem supported by 
> any tool (the default editor, the map on openstreetmap.org, or osmand).
> 
> Regards,
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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Guillaume Chauvat]

The one I am talking about is really an elevator. It's the one on the left in 
the picture here: 
http://nyttiflempan.sh.se/flemingsberg/2015-04-21/S%C3%B6dert%C3%B6rns-rulltrappa-en-huvudv%C3%A4rk-f%C3%B6r-kommunen-12389.html

Guillaume

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>This one looks to me like a small funicular railway.
>
>But OSM Wiki includes "the ascending and descending vehicles
>counterbalancing each other"
>as one of important characteristic.
>
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway=funicular?uselang=en
>
>
>Dec 3, 2020, 14:53 by winfi...@gmail.com:
>
>> I couldn't resist looking them up.
>>
>> This is a very long one and there is even an operator in it: >
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh0NxK6sslM
>>
>> Most are the length of the escalators they are adjacent to.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:19 PM Guillaume Chauvat <>
>guilla...@chauvat.eu> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My apologies if this has already been discussed several times or if
>it's not the place to ask.
>>>
>>> I was mapping a public inclined elevator in a dedicated building (it
>only contains the elevator and three parallel escalators). This is
>really a standard elevator running parallel to the escalators, not a
>funicular. Those elevators are very common here in Sweden, although
>most often inside metro stations.
>>>
>>> What is the best way of mapping it? I used a way tagged with
>highway=elevator as the wiki recommends, but this does not seem
>supported by any tool (the default editor, the map on >>
>openstreetmap.org >> , or osmand).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Guillaume
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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Is it both something that makes sense, accepted by community 
and supported by Wiki?

In such case, have you checked whatever this feature was already requested
for mentioned software?

It is both rare(?) and tricky to implement in rendering, but editors have 
greater freedom to handle
this.

And it may be possible to support it at least partially, for example for 
routing (in OsmAnd).


Dec 3, 2020, 14:17 by guilla...@chauvat.eu:

> Hi,
>
> My apologies if this has already been discussed several times or if it's not 
> the place to ask.
>
> I was mapping a public inclined elevator in a dedicated building (it only 
> contains the elevator and three parallel escalators). This is really a 
> standard elevator running parallel to the escalators, not a funicular. Those 
> elevators are very common here in Sweden, although most often inside metro 
> stations.
>
> What is the best way of mapping it? I used a way tagged with highway=elevator 
> as the wiki recommends, but this does not seem supported by any tool (the 
> default editor, the map on openstreetmap.org, or osmand).
>
> Regards,
> Guillaume
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>

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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

This one looks to me like a small funicular railway.

But OSM Wiki includes "the ascending and descending vehicles counterbalancing 
each other"
as one of important characteristic.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway=funicular?uselang=en


Dec 3, 2020, 14:53 by winfi...@gmail.com:

> I couldn't resist looking them up.
>
> This is a very long one and there is even an operator in it: > 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh0NxK6sslM
>
> Most are the length of the escalators they are adjacent to.
>
> Polyglot
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:19 PM Guillaume Chauvat <> guilla...@chauvat.eu> > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My apologies if this has already been discussed several times or if it's not 
>> the place to ask.
>>
>> I was mapping a public inclined elevator in a dedicated building (it only 
>> contains the elevator and three parallel escalators). This is really a 
>> standard elevator running parallel to the escalators, not a funicular. Those 
>> elevators are very common here in Sweden, although most often inside metro 
>> stations.
>>
>> What is the best way of mapping it? I used a way tagged with 
>> highway=elevator as the wiki recommends, but this does not seem supported by 
>> any tool (the default editor, the map on >> openstreetmap.org 
>> >> , or osmand).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Guillaume
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Re: [Tagging] Inclined elevators

[Jo]

I couldn't resist looking them up.

This is a very long one and there is even an operator in it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh0NxK6sslM

Most are the length of the escalators they are adjacent to.

Polyglot

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:19 PM Guillaume Chauvat 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My apologies if this has already been discussed several times or if it's
> not the place to ask.
>
> I was mapping a public inclined elevator in a dedicated building (it only
> contains the elevator and three parallel escalators). This is really a
> standard elevator running parallel to the escalators, not a funicular.
> Those elevators are very common here in Sweden, although most often inside
> metro stations.
>
> What is the best way of mapping it? I used a way tagged with
> highway=elevator as the wiki recommends, but this does not seem supported
> by any tool (the default editor, the map on openstreetmap.org, or osmand).
>
> Regards,
> Guillaume
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
> brevity.___
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> Tagging@openstreetmap.org
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