On 12/31/2010 04:27 PM, Anthony wrote:
Any suggestions how to tag this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG
cycleway=lane + hazard=narrow_bridge? I know signs for “narrow bridge”
[1] are common around here. A google search [2] shows several variants.
I’m not sure that
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 12/31/2010 04:27 PM, Anthony wrote:
Any suggestions how to tag this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG
cycleway=lane + hazard=narrow_bridge? I know signs for “narrow bridge” [1]
are common around
On 01/04/2011 08:46 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Paul Johnson
baloo-PVOPTusIyP/sroww+9z...@public.gmane.org wrote:
On 01/03/2011 08:11 AM, Dave F. wrote:
On 03/01/2011 03:50, Paul Johnson wrote:
On 01/01/2011 07:54 AM, Dave F. wrote:
Is the adjacent path shared? if
On 01/03/2011 08:11 AM, Dave F. wrote:
On 03/01/2011 03:50, Paul Johnson wrote:
On 01/01/2011 07:54 AM, Dave F. wrote:
Is the adjacent path shared? if so, note that that would be the safer
passage.
Most states prohibit bicycles from sidewalks, or limit their speed to a
walking speed on
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On 01/03/2011 08:11 AM, Dave F. wrote:
On 03/01/2011 03:50, Paul Johnson wrote:
On 01/01/2011 07:54 AM, Dave F. wrote:
Is the adjacent path shared? if so, note that that would be the safer
passage.
Most states prohibit
to extend over the
line into the automobile lane. Your wheels would be more-or-less
atop the lane divider stripe.
---Original Email---
Subject :Re: [Tagging] designated bike lane
From :mailto:o...@inbox.org
Date :Sun Jan 02 22:41:09 America/Chicago 2011
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10
On 01/02/2011 10:41 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Paul Johnson
baloo-PVOPTusIyP/sroww+9z...@public.gmane.org wrote:
Not having a sense of depth, I'd guess in the narrow spot it's about 4
feet wide, which is, believe it or not, the federal minimum width for
bike lanes
On 03/01/2011 03:50, Paul Johnson wrote:
On 01/01/2011 07:54 AM, Dave F. wrote:
Is the adjacent path shared? if so, note that that would be the safer
passage.
Most states prohibit bicycles from sidewalks, or limit their speed to a
walking speed on sidewalks, making them useless for
On 03/01/2011 03:53, Paul Johnson wrote:
On 01/01/2011 01:28 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Robert
Elsenaarrobert-Sr3mCESyW84k+I/owrr...@public.gmane.org wrote:
hazard:bicycle is the other way round. If there is a key/value e.g.
hazard=narrow then you can easily
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
On 03/01/2011 03:50, Paul Johnson wrote:
On 01/01/2011 07:54 AM, Dave F. wrote:
Is the adjacent path shared? if so, note that that would be the safer
passage.
Most states prohibit bicycles from sidewalks, or limit their
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:39 AM, rob...@elsenaar.info wrote:
Google's measurement tool?
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.078571,-82.56522spn=0.000622,0.000912t=hz=20
Bottom left hand corner. Click the ruler. Click the start point.
Click the end point.
On 03/01/2011 14:36, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Even if the sidewalk were officially designated as a shared path, that
would not make it any safer.
This could degenerate into a long winded argument, so to save us a lot
of typing I'll say from the outset that we should agree to disagree.
Cheers
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
Even if the sidewalk were officially designated as a shared path, that
would not make it any safer.
Yeah, the only way the sidewalk is a safer path would be if you slow
down and yield to cars at every crosswalk. While
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Any suggestions how to tag this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG
This raises an interesting philosophical question: Does OSM map what
*we* consider to be a bike lane (or a park, or a service road, or a
tertiary
Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com writes:
This raises an interesting philosophical question: Does OSM map what
*we* consider to be a bike lane (or a park, or a service road, or a
tertiary highway...) or what *someone else* says it is? The latter
path is sometimes simpler and gives more
On 01/01/2011 07:08 AM, Ed Hillsman wrote:
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Anthony osm at inbox.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging wrote:
/ Any suggestions how to tag this?
// http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG/
If the lane is too narrow to function
On 01/01/2011 07:54 AM, Dave F. wrote:
Is the adjacent path shared? if so, note that that would be the safer
passage.
Most states prohibit bicycles from sidewalks, or limit their speed to a
walking speed on sidewalks, making them useless for bicyclists. That,
and nobody expects vehicles to be
On 01/01/2011 01:28 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Robert Elsenaar
robert-Sr3mCESyW84k+I/owrr...@public.gmane.org wrote:
hazard:bicycle is the other way round. If there is a key/value e.g.
hazard=narrow then you can easily use cycleway:hazard=narrow to tag the
On 01/01/2011 10:52 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Greg Troxel
gdt-2FjktZCtrC/qt0dzr+a...@public.gmane.org wrote:
By trying to objectively tag the reality (not entirely possible of
course), we also avoid all the debates about what is and isn't safe in
general, and where
On 12/31/2010 04:27 PM, Anthony wrote:
Any suggestions how to tag this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG
As part of the existing way, just tag it cycleway=lane to indicate
that there's a restricted lane reserved for bicycles.
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On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Not having a sense of depth, I'd guess in the narrow spot it's about 4
feet wide, which is, believe it or not, the federal minimum width for
bike lanes (though I wish Ray would hurry up and adopt Oregon's 6 foot
lanes and
.
---Original Email---
Subject :Re: [Tagging] designated bike lane
From :mailto:o...@inbox.org
Date :Sun Jan 02 22:41:09 America/Chicago 2011
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Not having a sense of depth, I'd guess in the narrow spot it's about 4
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Anthony osm at inbox.org wrote:
Any suggestions how to tag this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG
If the lane is too narrow to function safely as a bike lane, then I
would break the street way at this point, code the portion of the way
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Is the adjacent path shared? if so, note that that would be the safer
passage.
It's a sidewalk, and it's most likely not safer because of the
I agree with the notion of not having surprises, but I think going down
the path of judgement about bike lanes being inadequate and not tagging
them is going to lead to a mess. I lean towards saying if there is a
cycle lane painted on the road (and more or less if the road authority
says there
I agree with the notion of not having surprises, but I think going down
the path of judgement about bike lanes being inadequate and not tagging
them is going to lead to a mess. I lean towards saying if there is a
cycle lane painted on the road (and more or less if the road authority
says there
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
By trying to objectively tag the reality (not entirely possible of
course), we also avoid all the debates about what is and isn't safe in
general, and where the dividing line is.
In this case I'm not even sure it's physically
the very brink of
a canal.
---Original Email---
Subject :Re: [Tagging] designated bike lane
From :mailto:o...@inbox.org
Date :Sat Jan 01 10:52:48 America/Chicago 2011
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
By trying to objectively tag the reality
On 1/1/11 11:52 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
By trying to objectively tag the reality (not entirely possible of
course), we also avoid all the debates about what is and isn't safe in
general, and where the dividing line is.
In this case
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
On 1/1/11 11:52 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
By trying to objectively tag the reality (not entirely possible of
course), we also avoid all the debates about
On 1/1/11 12:40 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
On 1/1/11 11:52 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.comwrote:
By trying to objectively tag the reality (not entirely possible of
course),
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
so the safety/hazard factor is sometimes a judgmental issue.
i know that there are some freshly painted bike lanes on US 4
in East Greenbush where i'd be tempted to put something
like
hazard=sewer_grate
if such a
this is a beautifull set of tags that describes objectivity the
shown situation.
-Robert-
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Nathan Edgars II
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 7:49 PM
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Subject: Re: [Tagging] designated bike lane
On Sat, Jan 1
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Robert Elsenaar rob...@elsenaar.info wrote:
hazard:bicycle is the other way round. If there is a key/value e.g.
hazard=narrow then you can easily use cycleway:hazard=narrow to tag the
fact that the hazard tag is specificly warns for a narrow cycle-lane.
On 1/1/11 2:17 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
hazard:bicycle is the other way round. If there is a key/value e.g.
hazard=narrow then you can easily use cycleway:hazard=narrow to
tag the fact that the hazard tag is specificly warns for a narrow
cycle-lane.
highway=*
cycleway:right=lane
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 10:36:54 -0500
Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
If part of the goal is advocacy for bike safety, then I think it makes
sense to find a cycling organization, like http://www.bikeleague.org/
and to find out what their standards are for cycle lane safety, and
then to have a
On 31/12/2010 22:27, Anthony wrote:
Any suggestions how to tag this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle
L2?
Cheers
Dave F.
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Any suggestions how to tag this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_7491.JPG
cycleway=lane cycle_hazard=bike lane too narrow
or unicycleway=lane (would work better if there were a bike stencil on
the lane, since only the
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