Re: Can I use MyClass as a attribute

2003-02-19 Thread Hans Bergsten
Jeff Born wrote:

I'm not getting much of a response to my question.  Is this because I didn't
provide enough information?  Is it just not possible and no one wants to hurt
my feelings?
 
Can I have an object as an attribute?  Or can it only be a string?  In my
case I would want the attribute to be of class hCategories.  NOTE:
hCategories is not a java bean.

What you want to do works (if I understand you correctly). The main
problem seems to be that you have not declared the attribute to accept
a "request-time attribute value", i.e. an expression like
"<%=categoryData%>", so the JSP container treats it as a static string
value instead of evaluating the expression and setting the attribute
to the resulting value.

Add

  
...
true
  

for the tag in the TLD to declare that the attribute accepts request-
time attribute values.

Hans


	-Original Message- 
	From: Jeff Born 
	Sent: Wed 2/19/2003 10:08 AM 
	To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
	Cc: 
	Subject: Can I use MyClass as a attribute
	
	

	// Tag snippet 
	private hCategories categories=null; 
	/** 
	* Getter/Setter for the attribute name as defined in the tld file 
	* for this tag 
	*/ 
	public void setCategories(hCategories value){ 
	categories = value; 
	} 
	public hCategories getCategories(){ 
	return(categories); 
	} 
	JSP call: 
	 

	

	Error message that is created: 

	Unable to convert string '<%=categoryData%>' to class 
	com.harland.datatypes.hCategories for attribute categories: 
	java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Property Editor not registered
with the 
	PropertyEditorManager 

	Using Tomcat 4.1.18 

	First can I do this?  Then if I can how do I pass the hCategories
object? 

	

	Thanks, 

	Jeff Born 



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RE: Can I use MyClass as a attribute

2003-02-19 Thread Jeff Born
I'm not getting much of a response to my question.  Is this because I didn't
provide enough information?  Is it just not possible and no one wants to hurt
my feelings?
 
Can I have an object as an attribute?  Or can it only be a string?  In my
case I would want the attribute to be of class hCategories.  NOTE:
hCategories is not a java bean.
 
Thanks,
 
Jeff Born

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From: Jeff Born 
Sent: Wed 2/19/2003 10:08 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Can I use MyClass as a attribute



// Tag snippet 
private hCategories categories=null; 
/** 
* Getter/Setter for the attribute name as defined in the tld file 
* for this tag 
*/ 
public void setCategories(hCategories value){ 
categories = value; 
} 
public hCategories getCategories(){ 
return(categories); 
} 
JSP call: 
 



Error message that is created: 

Unable to convert string '<%=categoryData%>' to class 
com.harland.datatypes.hCategories for attribute categories: 
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Property Editor not registered
with the 
PropertyEditorManager 

Using Tomcat 4.1.18 

First can I do this?  Then if I can how do I pass the hCategories
object? 



Thanks, 

Jeff Born 




Re: Starting

2003-02-19 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Scott Taylor wrote:

> Do you have "useful" working examples in the book?
> 
> Because I have found with other things like PHP/MySQL examples that it
> is easier to play around with a complete example than read several
> chapters of theory?

Yeah, the major examples focus on your situation.  I don't describe how to
set up the database or its drivers, but there are a couple chapters with
nothing but complete-application examples that use JSTL alone (not Java)
to produce moderately complex web applications, like a message board, a
survey application, and a "web portal."  They stretch JSTL as far as it
can go in this respect; any larger applications would probably require
Java.

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Re: Starting

2003-02-19 Thread Scott Taylor
Do you have "useful" working examples in the book?

Because I have found with other things like PHP/MySQL examples that it is
easier to play around with a complete example than read several chapters of
theory?

Scott


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Subject: Re: Starting


> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Scott Taylor wrote:
>
> > I have played around with some code examples and am interested in
> > creating my own web sites using JSP, Servlets and JDBC from scratch.
> >
> > I don't wish to be a guru, just someone that could knock together a
> > reasonably simple web app in a day or so. (like an online client
> > database, or online consultant timesheet system which you use forms to
> > enter and search.)
> >
> > Could I learn just tags, struts or Maverick without getting too much
> > into Java code?
>
> You might find that you can get pretty far with JSTL.  In fact, "JSTL in
> Action" has lots of information for people in your situation; I had sort
> of hoped there would be more people like you.  :-)
>
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RE: Attributes with Spaces in Their Names

2003-02-19 Thread Jerome Jacobsen
I very much doubt it.

Have you tried something like this?

<% pageContext.setAttribute("theCollectionPacificRim",
  pageContext.findAttribute("theCollection PacificRim")); %>

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>
>
> One of the applications I am working on has application scope attributes
> that have spaces in their names, such as: "theCollection PacificRim".
>
> When accessing from JSTL's forEach tag, I get this:
>
> 'forEach' / attribute = 'items': An error occurred while parsing custom
> action attribute "items" with value
> "${applicationScope.theRestaurantCollectionPacific Rim.collection}":
> Encountered "Rim"
> ...
>
> Not that surprised... Is there any way to access an attribute with a space
> in the name?
>
> Thanks,
> Hunter
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Re: Attributes with Spaces in Their Names

2003-02-19 Thread Hans Bergsten
Hunter Hillegas wrote:

One of the applications I am working on has application scope attributes
that have spaces in their names, such as: "theCollection PacificRim".

When accessing from JSTL's forEach tag, I get this:

'forEach' / attribute = 'items': An error occurred while parsing custom
action attribute "items" with value
"${applicationScope.theRestaurantCollectionPacific Rim.collection}":
Encountered "Rim"
...

Not that surprised... Is there any way to access an attribute with a space
in the name?


Yes,

  ${applicationScope['theRestaurantCollectionPacific Rim'].collection}

Hans
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Attributes with Spaces in Their Names

2003-02-19 Thread Hunter Hillegas
One of the applications I am working on has application scope attributes
that have spaces in their names, such as: "theCollection PacificRim".

When accessing from JSTL's forEach tag, I get this:

'forEach' / attribute = 'items': An error occurred while parsing custom
action attribute "items" with value
"${applicationScope.theRestaurantCollectionPacific Rim.collection}":
Encountered "Rim"
...

Not that surprised... Is there any way to access an attribute with a space
in the name?

Thanks,
Hunter


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Re: Scrape tag

2003-02-19 Thread Glenn Nielsen
Fixed now.

Infidel wrote:

Yea, I know...but if you go into any of the download locations the folders
are empty
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Scrape is listed on the main taglibs page on The Jakarta Project:

http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/index.html



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Subject: Scrape tag


Hi All

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the scrape tag??
I've looked on all the jakarta mirror sites and none of them have it.

Any help would be aqppreciated.

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RE: Benefits of using taglibs...

2003-02-19 Thread Ciramella, EJ
Thanks a TON - like I initially said, I'm just the release engineer here
laden with the task of precompiling this mess.  The runtime is quick, the
compile time is S-L-O-W.

I think it's really do to the amount of scriptlets and scriptlets in file
that are included.


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Subject: RE: Benefits of using taglibs...


> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Bayern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> 
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Ciramella, EJ wrote:
> 
> > My company has ~500 jsps - all of which are scriptlet 
> heavy.  I want 
> > to propose a change to using taglibs (either custom or 
> directly from 
> > the taglib project).  What can I site as the benefits?  I'm 
> hoping to 
> > find a web page or document or something that clearly 
> states some sort 
> > of performance increase.  Currently, it takes a REALLY long 
> time just 
> > to load the login page (which has large scriptlets embedded 
> and it's 
> > imports also are 90% scriptlet).  I'm guessing that if these things 
> > were compiled classes in side a taglib, this would shorten 
> load time 
> > and lessen the need to precompile the jsp's.
> >
> >  Thanks in advance.
> 
> The benefits of tag libraries are primarily organizational.  
> You're unlikely to notice a performance improvement when 
> switching from scriptlets to tag libraries; your scriptlet 
> code is being compiled into servlets before it's run.
> 

You may notice a speed up relating to page compilation, but Shawn is right
when he states that tag libraries don't necessarily mean improved
performance.  I'd imagine that your performance issues might be a product of
a larger architectural issue.  If your application consists solely of JSP w/
scriptlets, you might not be taking advantage of pooled JDBC connections,
caching, etc..

I'd recommend an evolutionary approach, the first step involves taglibs.

1. JSP w/ Scriptlets  *Uck!*
2. JSP w/ Custom Taglibs and JSTL
3. JSP w/ Custom Taglibs and JSTL - accessing a shared "persistence" layer (
see OJB, Hibernate, etc.. )
4. JSP w/ Custom Taglibs and JSTL + Struts for MVC - both interfacing with
shared persistence layer

The benefits of the jump between #1 and #2 are mostly maintainability and
reuse.
Performance gains will start to manifest themselves when you make the jump
between #2 and #3.

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RE: Benefits of using taglibs...

2003-02-19 Thread O'brien, Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Bayern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> 
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Ciramella, EJ wrote:
> 
> > My company has ~500 jsps - all of which are scriptlet 
> heavy.  I want 
> > to propose a change to using taglibs (either custom or 
> directly from 
> > the taglib project).  What can I site as the benefits?  I'm 
> hoping to 
> > find a web page or document or something that clearly 
> states some sort 
> > of performance increase.  Currently, it takes a REALLY long 
> time just 
> > to load the login page (which has large scriptlets embedded 
> and it's 
> > imports also are 90% scriptlet).  I'm guessing that if these things 
> > were compiled classes in side a taglib, this would shorten 
> load time 
> > and lessen the need to precompile the jsp's.
> >
> >  Thanks in advance.
> 
> The benefits of tag libraries are primarily organizational.  
> You're unlikely to notice a performance improvement when 
> switching from scriptlets to tag libraries; your scriptlet 
> code is being compiled into servlets before it's run.
> 

You may notice a speed up relating to page compilation, but Shawn is right
when he states that tag libraries don't necessarily mean improved
performance.  I'd imagine that your performance issues might be a product of
a larger architectural issue.  If your application consists solely of JSP w/
scriptlets, you might not be taking advantage of pooled JDBC connections,
caching, etc..

I'd recommend an evolutionary approach, the first step involves taglibs.

1. JSP w/ Scriptlets  *Uck!*
2. JSP w/ Custom Taglibs and JSTL
3. JSP w/ Custom Taglibs and JSTL - accessing a shared "persistence" layer (
see OJB, Hibernate, etc.. )
4. JSP w/ Custom Taglibs and JSTL + Struts for MVC - both interfacing with
shared persistence layer

The benefits of the jump between #1 and #2 are mostly maintainability and
reuse.
Performance gains will start to manifest themselves when you make the jump
between #2 and #3.

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> Shawn Bayern
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RE: Benefits of using taglibs...

2003-02-19 Thread Ciramella, EJ
ok, I'm not looking to speed up runtime, just compile time.  Runtime is
fine, compile time is WAY too long.  

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Subject: RE: Benefits of using taglibs...


On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Ciramella, EJ wrote:

> Right, so if there are no/very little scriptlet code in the jsps and
> the tags are already classes, wouldn't this speed thing up at all?

No, not at runtime; by the time your pages are accessed, they've already
been compiled.  (In other words, they're compiled only when they change.)

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RE: Benefits of using taglibs...

2003-02-19 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Ciramella, EJ wrote:

> Right, so if there are no/very little scriptlet code in the jsps and
> the tags are already classes, wouldn't this speed thing up at all?

No, not at runtime; by the time your pages are accessed, they've already
been compiled.  (In other words, they're compiled only when they change.)

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RE: Benefits of using taglibs...

2003-02-19 Thread Karr, David
You may get some benefits from this, but you'll probably get better
benefits from a harder task, of rearchitecting your application to use
the "Web MVC" structure.  If you just concentrate on "translating"
scriptlets to custom tags, you'll end up writing custom tags which just
execute business logic.  However, if your view pages just contain "view
logic" and your "Model" portion of your application has the business
logic, then your view pages will likely be much smaller in size and
complexity.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ciramella, EJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:13 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Benefits of using taglibs...
> 
> My company has ~500 jsps - all of which are scriptlet heavy.  I want
to
> propose a change to using taglibs (either custom or directly from the
> taglib
> project).  What can I site as the benefits?  I'm hoping to find a web
page
> or document or something that clearly states some sort of performance
> increase.  Currently, it takes a REALLY long time just to load the
login
> page (which has large scriptlets embedded and it's imports also are
90%
> scriptlet).  I'm guessing that if these things were compiled classes
in
> side
> a taglib, this would shorten load time and lessen the need to
precompile
> the
> jsp's.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

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RE: Benefits of using taglibs...

2003-02-19 Thread Ciramella, EJ
Right, so if there are no/very little scriptlet code in the jsps and the
tags are already classes, wouldn't this speed thing up at all?

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From: Shawn Bayern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:16 AM
To: Tag Libraries Users List
Subject: Re: Benefits of using taglibs...


On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Ciramella, EJ wrote:

> My company has ~500 jsps - all of which are scriptlet heavy.  I want
> to propose a change to using taglibs (either custom or directly from
> the taglib project).  What can I site as the benefits?  I'm hoping to
> find a web page or document or something that clearly states some sort
> of performance increase.  Currently, it takes a REALLY long time just
> to load the login page (which has large scriptlets embedded and it's
> imports also are 90% scriptlet).  I'm guessing that if these things
> were compiled classes in side a taglib, this would shorten load time
> and lessen the need to precompile the jsp's.
>
>  Thanks in advance.

The benefits of tag libraries are primarily organizational.  You're
unlikely to notice a performance improvement when switching from
scriptlets to tag libraries; your scriptlet code is being compiled into
servlets before it's run.

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Re: Scrape tag

2003-02-19 Thread Infidel
Yea, I know...but if you go into any of the download locations the folders
are empty
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Subject: RE: Scrape tag


Scrape is listed on the main taglibs page on The Jakarta Project:

http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/index.html



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Subject: Scrape tag


Hi All

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the scrape tag??
I've looked on all the jakarta mirror sites and none of them have it.

Any help would be aqppreciated.

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Re: Starting

2003-02-19 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Scott Taylor wrote:

> I have played around with some code examples and am interested in
> creating my own web sites using JSP, Servlets and JDBC from scratch.
> 
> I don't wish to be a guru, just someone that could knock together a
> reasonably simple web app in a day or so. (like an online client
> database, or online consultant timesheet system which you use forms to
> enter and search.)
> 
> Could I learn just tags, struts or Maverick without getting too much
> into Java code?

You might find that you can get pretty far with JSTL.  In fact, "JSTL in
Action" has lots of information for people in your situation; I had sort
of hoped there would be more people like you.  :-)

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Re: Benefits of using taglibs...

2003-02-19 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Ciramella, EJ wrote:

> My company has ~500 jsps - all of which are scriptlet heavy.  I want
> to propose a change to using taglibs (either custom or directly from
> the taglib project).  What can I site as the benefits?  I'm hoping to
> find a web page or document or something that clearly states some sort
> of performance increase.  Currently, it takes a REALLY long time just
> to load the login page (which has large scriptlets embedded and it's
> imports also are 90% scriptlet).  I'm guessing that if these things
> were compiled classes in side a taglib, this would shorten load time
> and lessen the need to precompile the jsp's.
>
>  Thanks in advance.

The benefits of tag libraries are primarily organizational.  You're
unlikely to notice a performance improvement when switching from
scriptlets to tag libraries; your scriptlet code is being compiled into
servlets before it's run.

-- 
Shawn Bayern
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Benefits of using taglibs...

2003-02-19 Thread Ciramella, EJ
My company has ~500 jsps - all of which are scriptlet heavy.  I want to
propose a change to using taglibs (either custom or directly from the taglib
project).  What can I site as the benefits?  I'm hoping to find a web page
or document or something that clearly states some sort of performance
increase.  Currently, it takes a REALLY long time just to load the login
page (which has large scriptlets embedded and it's imports also are 90%
scriptlet).  I'm guessing that if these things were compiled classes in side
a taglib, this would shorten load time and lessen the need to precompile the
jsp's.
 
Thanks in advance.



Starting

2003-02-19 Thread Scott Taylor
I have played around with some code examples and am interested in creating
my own web sites using JSP, Servlets and JDBC from scratch.

I don't wish to be a guru, just someone that could knock together a
reasonably simple web app in a day or so. (like an online client database,
or online consultant timesheet system which you use forms to enter and
search.)

Could I learn just tags, struts or Maverick without getting too much into
Java code?

Regards

Scott


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RE: Scrape tag

2003-02-19 Thread Renick, Garrel
Scrape is listed on the main taglibs page on The Jakarta Project:

http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/index.html



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Subject: Scrape tag


Hi All

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the scrape tag??
I've looked on all the jakarta mirror sites and none of them have it.

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Andy

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Can I use MyClass as a attribute

2003-02-19 Thread Jeff Born
// Tag snippet
private hCategories categories=null;
/**
* Getter/Setter for the attribute name as defined in the tld file 
* for this tag
*/
public void setCategories(hCategories value){
categories = value;
}
public hCategories getCategories(){
return(categories);
}
JSP call:


 

Error message that is created:

Unable to convert string '<%=categoryData%>' to class
com.harland.datatypes.hCategories for attribute categories:
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Property Editor not registered with the
PropertyEditorManager

Using Tomcat 4.1.18 

First can I do this?  Then if I can how do I pass the hCategories object?

 

Thanks,

Jeff Born




Scrape tag

2003-02-19 Thread Infidel
Hi All

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the scrape tag??
I've looked on all the jakarta mirror sites and none of them have it.

Any help would be aqppreciated.

Andy