Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2023-07-13 17:14, William Park via talk wrote: However, you can't easily test serial, parallel, USB, network, and other I/Os, because you can't easily control both side of connection. Actually, when I was a technician for CN Telecommunications, back in the 70s, we had test sets for doing

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
Thanks for getting back to my question smiles. I believe i have been focused on Motherboards more than the ports for your exact reason, the ports are connection dependent. what about boards themselves? On Thu, 13 Jul 2023, William Park via talk wrote: Getting back to original thread...

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread William Park via talk
Getting back to original thread... There are programs to test memory, cpu, and disk, because you have control of data, and can compare against expected data. However, you can't easily test serial, parallel, USB, network, and other I/Os, because you can't easily control both side of

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 11:26 AM Scott Allen via talk wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 10:56, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > > for example the fridge is on an outlet with other items > > The Canadian and Ontario electrical codes require a fridge to have its > own dedicated circuit.

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Don Tai via talk
If you live in an older house, older than a house built in the 1970s, then you probably have fuses and not breakers. Older houses could have the service panel upgraded to breakers, say from 100 amp to 200 amps. There is a chance that someone could remove a fuse and not replace it immediately.

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
What exactly are the remaining problems that you can put your finger on? Laptops effectively have built-in UPSes. They should not be affected by drooping voltage and a surge would have to be fairly large to harm it. I would guess that the first thing to fail would be the power brick. Have

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
If they are switches, they will be circuit breakers. I don't know if that means that the box has no fuses. So: I think that it probably safe for you to feel around but I am not confident in that guess. As someone pointed out: if you cause your landlord problems, will they evict you? I hate that

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
There is a reason for being pedantic. But in this case, the issue has no consequences. We are being given an incomplete view of the problem. That's natural and to be expected. But when an inconsistency comes up, it casts doubt on the description and we want to get rid of the doubt. Doubt is

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
It is a box, which my landlord told me was the fuse one, with scores of switches with no indication of what circuits they control..he has no idea himself. Speaking personally as someone who has embodied sight loss for several decades, this is not how I manage hydro, especially with other

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
As shared previously, the city is investigating, much about the layout violates property standards, they will be here on Monday. On Thu, 13 Jul 2023, Scott Allen wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 10:56, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: for example the fridge is on an outlet with other items

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 2023-07-13 12:26, Scott Allen via talk wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 10:56, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: for example the fridge is on an outlet with other items The Canadian and Ontario electrical codes require a fridge to have its own dedicated circuit. (Actually, you're allowed to

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 11:31, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > Oh yes, we have gotten some fuse blows..which my landlord expects me to > manage by sticking my hand into the fuse box. It is actually a fuse box or is it a breaker panel? If it's a fuse box, with fuses that have to be removed and

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 10:56, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote: > for example the fridge is on an outlet with other items The Canadian and Ontario electrical codes require a fridge to have its own dedicated circuit. (Actually, you're allowed to have an additional outlet above the fridge location,

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
Oh yes, we have gotten some fuse blows..which my landlord expects me to manage by sticking my hand into the fuse box. No labels, and that I might have an issue seeing them seems not to matter here. On Thu, 13 Jul 2023, Don Tai wrote: Fridges don't usually damage electronic equipment. I'm

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Don Tai via talk
Fridges don't usually damage electronic equipment. I'm in a 70s build detached house and my fridge is also on a circuit with other things. If the circuit is overdrawn it will trip the fuse. When the fridge is initially starting up the compressor my lights will momentarily dim. Most power surges

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
My explanation was not clear. I believe the serge damaged the port not the cable, which is why I am seeking software to test the integrity of internal things like the motherboard. My apartment is the upper basement of a house, where hydro is a part of my rent. However outlets on this floor

Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

2023-07-13 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
I believe the confusion, speaking personally, came from well meaning projections of information not focused on my actual question, which was and remains, for software options that tested the integrity of internal hardware like motherboards and their included ports. Given I have bought a