Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-14 Thread Chris Snyder
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: >> Thought I would chime in here. I heard that Microsoft currently has plans >> not to allow third party browsers in Windows 8. Meaning IE 9 only for >> Windows 8. This to me is yet another bone head move as IE 9 still lacks the >> standar

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-13 Thread David Krings
On 5/12/2012 1:18 PM, Bruce Martin wrote: Thought I would chime in here. I heard that Microsoft currently has plans not to allow third party browsers in Windows 8. Meaning IE 9 only for Windows 8. This to me is yet another bone head move as IE 9 still lacks the standards that Chrome, Safari an

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-12 Thread Justin Dearing
Bruce, I'm glad you verified your not completely true information. Unfortunately,, I did not see tis message until after I installed Chrome on my 1st generation EEE PC running windwos 8 consumer edition just to prove that it can be done: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/bmSCawI606ULfWRFNMdFr

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-12 Thread Bruce Martin
My thoughts exactly. UPDATE: It seems that what I heard on the radio was only half the story. According to this article it is only doing that on the ARM version of Windows 8 so any tablet or phone running windows 8 RT will only allow IE. http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/05/mozilla-windows-8-a-ret

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-12 Thread Anthony Ferrara
> Thought I would chime in here. I heard that Microsoft currently has plans not > to allow third party browsers in Windows 8. Meaning IE 9 only for Windows 8. > This to me is yet another bone head move as IE 9 still lacks the standards > that Chrome, Safari and FireFox support. How long do you

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-12 Thread Bruce Martin
Thought I would chime in here. I heard that Microsoft currently has plans not to allow third party browsers in Windows 8. Meaning IE 9 only for Windows 8. This to me is yet another bone head move as IE 9 still lacks the standards that Chrome, Safari and FireFox support. As for bloating, I have

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-12 Thread Hans Zaunere
Hi, > Really guys, what are you talking about? Now you code once and it > works in all browser, I wish things where this easy 10 years ago! > Browser improved a lot if you consider standards, compatibility, > performances and security (less virus, adware)! I think you raise a good point - there's

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Anirudhsinh Zala
On Saturday 12 May 2012 01:06:05 Hans Zaunere wrote: > Hi all, > > So, in a mix of rant-and-feedback-gathering - is it just me, or have > browsers largely gone downhill in the last few months? > > Chrome: freezes continually with 1mb view source. Seems more worried about > trying to get me to l

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread justin.dema...@gmail.com
still holding strong or does nobody even bother with them anymore? Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: federico ulfo To: NYPHP Talk Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 22:07:58 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality Really guys, what are you talking

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread justin.dema...@gmail.com
never had this happen in OSX and Ubuntu before. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Hans Zaunere To: NYPHP Talk Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 20:33:21 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality Here is my OSX user experience, I was using Firefox for

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread federico ulfo
Really guys, what are you talking about? Now you code once and it works in all browser, I wish things where this easy 10 years ago! Browser improved a lot if you consider standards, compatibility, performances and security (less virus, adware)! Sent from my iPhone On May 11, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Dav

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread David Krings
On 5/11/2012 3:36 PM, Hans Zaunere wrote: Hi all, So, in a mix of rant-and-feedback-gathering - is it just me, or have browsers largely gone downhill in the last few months? Hi! During the past few months? It is like that for quite longer. FF 4 and higher just sucks, the UI is horrible and

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Anthony Ferrara
My only beef with Chrome is the lack of application-specific proxying. With FireFox, I can set the proxy to be different than the system one. With chrome, I can't. Sure, foxyproxy exists for Chrome, but it switches the bloody system proxy on demand (imagine what else that may blow up). Otherwis

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Armendariz
I recently found my nirvana in Chrome, clean and fast. It's fast, but apparently because it caches everything. It's also way too big-brother for me. H I've been defaulting to Chromium for a while, with the occasional switch to Firefox / Firebug (I work on Ubuntu) I think it's either ctrl

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Matthew Kaufman
The web browser 'Dillo' is great :). Or the graphical version of links On Friday, May 11, 2012, Hans Zaunere wrote: > > Here is my OSX user experience, I was using Firefox for > > inspect/debugging web page, it's good but too over-bloated with > > functionalities and plugins. > > Agreed, and it s

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Hans Zaunere
> Here is my OSX user experience, I was using Firefox for > inspect/debugging web page, it's good but too over-bloated with > functionalities and plugins. Agreed, and it seems to be getting worse, which is sad. > I recently found my nirvana in Chrome, clean and fast. It's fast, but apparently be

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Joey Derrico
I don't have those problems, but sometimes when I close FF it takes like 20 minutes to actually close. Chrome just pisses me off (I prefer IE9 to Chrome). I reccomend giving Opera a try. It is my favorite browser, and though (useful) developer tools are virtually nonexistent its still worth a try

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Darryle Steplight
Speaking of FireFox, has anyone realized that youtube videos don't play on the latest FF on a Mac, even after updating Adobe Flash? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Hans Zaunere wrote: >> Firefox is probably one of the better browser out there still.  If you >> are experiencing crashes, this most

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Hans Zaunere
> Firefox is probably one of the better browser out there still. If you > are experiencing crashes, this most likely indicates corrupted profile - > - this occurs often during upgrades, but there many factor why it would > go corrupt. Try creating a new profile and see how this affects it. That'

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Chris Snyder
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Federico Ulfo wrote: > Safari is the Zen for sailing the interweb. That spot will always be held by IE 5 for Mac, where by Zen I mean that it felt like a kick to the head. ___ New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mail

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Federico Ulfo
Here is my OSX user experience, I was using Firefox for inspect/debugging web page, it's good but too over-bloated with functionalities and plugins. I recently found my nirvana in Chrome, clean and fast. Safari is the Zen for sailing the interweb. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Hans Zaunere wro

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Felix Shnir
Firefox is probably one of the better browser out there still. If you are experiencing crashes, this most likely indicates corrupted profile -- this occurs often during upgrades, but there many factor why it would go corrupt. Try creating a new profile and see how this affects it. On Fri, May

Re: [nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Chris Snyder
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Hans Zaunere wrote: > So, in a mix of rant-and-feedback-gathering - is it just me, or have > browsers largely gone downhill in the last few months? Big picture, things are great -- html5 / css3 support, much better cross-browser rendering than we've ever had, dev

[nyphp-talk] Web browser quality

2012-05-11 Thread Hans Zaunere
Hi all, So, in a mix of rant-and-feedback-gathering - is it just me, or have browsers largely gone downhill in the last few months? Chrome: freezes continually with 1mb view source. Seems more worried about trying to get me to login to the mothership and track my social networks, than actually