RE: update settings?

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Don,

The following passage from the manual explains what the Update outdated
button in the Factory Settings dialog in the WE control panel does:

D = Update Outdated -  Button 
When selected, this button will cause Window-Eyes to determine which
installed set files are out of date and automatically update them to the
latest factory version. If there are no sets to update, a message box saying
"All installed set groups are currently at the latest factory version. There
are no set files to update." will be displayed with an OK button. The Update
Outdated option only examines the currently installed versions of set files
and compares those to the factory versions. If the installed versions are
less than the factory versions, those set files will be updated. If the
installed versions are not less than the factory versions, even if the set
files are marked as modified, they will not be installed.

Hth,

Rod

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Subject: update settings?

I noticed in the we control panel, there is a choice to update outdated
settings.

 

Should I do this?

 

I am running windows 10, and we 9.4

I did notice in the  factory settings some programmes seemed to be out
of date.

 

Windows 10 is running niceley and I do not want to screw anything up

 

Thanks

Don

 

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update settings?

[Don S via Talk]

I noticed in the we control panel, there is a choice to update outdated
settings.

 

Should I do this?

 

I am running windows 10, and we 9.4

I did notice in the  factory settings some programmes seemed to be out
of date.

 

Windows 10 is running niceley and I do not want to screw anything up

 

Thanks

Don

 

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RE: Just info re windows 10

[Charles Short via Talk]

Hello Mr. Smith, Charlie here, another Window-Eyes user, do you have the
proper setfiles installed for office?  Window-Eyes won't work very well
unless you have the proper set files installed.  What version of office are
you running? ...2007, '10, '13, or '16?


Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:49 PM
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Subject: Just info re windows 10

Hello:

 

Just letting folks know re my jurney to windows 10.

 

I was running windows 7 and we 9.4 and was reluctant to update to windows
10.

 

So my grandson came and I said let's do it.

 

I am now running windows 10 and quite pleased.

 

Did the normal update, then after instlling, I reinstalled 9.4 of we.

 

It was still not quite and after checking with we support was advised to go
to the apps, then to diagnosis and to I think it was to reinstall or repair
the video drivers and bingo, windows 10 is running very smoothly.

 

I find no bugs and I just have to learn some of the new features.

 

I have a normal desktop, finding the start page is fine, outlook email is
working fine, now all I have to learn is that sneaky ribbon.

 

Cheers

 

I do feel  a sighted helper is an asset.

Don

 

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RE: Word 2007 question

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

I am not aware of any keyboard shortcuts in Word that allow you to navigate to 
the next or previous column. Window-Eyes does have a next line/previous line 
hotkey that respects columns. So, if you are reading a multi-column document by 
line, you should use Alt-Comma and Alt-Period instead of Up and Down to ensure 
you don't skip any content in the other columns. 
Best,
Marc

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On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:04 PM
To: WE English Mailinglist 
Subject: Word 2007 question

Running Office 2007, under Win7 64. Latest WE.

Whenever I open a document in MSWord, it opens in what is reported as
 Preview Mode.
This causes the speech to only read what is in one of the columns on the 
page, for instance in a received and scanned letter, you may not get 
much more than the addresses.

I guess I - somehow - could change to another View-setting. But how do I 
do that, and which View-setting is prefered to have all the text show up 
in WE? And, is there any way for me to "lock" Word to always open in 
that view, even when creating new documents?

As it stands, I will have to open the document in Word, then Cut and 
Paste the contents into a Notepad screen, to have all the text shown and 
read by my Window-Eyes. Would have been great to be able to operate all 
the text directly in Word.

BTW, is there a simple way for me to jump from one column in a text, to 
the Next/Previous??

Thanks all,

-- 
David

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RE: Word 2007 question

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

To add to Rod's suggestion, here is a knowledge base article with instructions 
on exiting protected mode and disabling this feature permanently: 
www.gwmicro.com/kb2049. Please note that I don't personally recommend dialing 
this feature, so do so at your own risk. 
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On June 13, 2016 4:20:53 PM Rod Hutton via Talk  
wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> My guess is your document, as it came from the web, has been blocked from
> full editing.
> If you open its properties fromits parent folder, in the General tab you
> should be able to use the mouse pointer to click Unblock to release the file
> and then click Ok.
> This should enable full editing.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of David via Talk
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:04 PM
> To: WE English Mailinglist 
> Subject: Word 2007 question
>
> Running Office 2007, under Win7 64. Latest WE.
>
> Whenever I open a document in MSWord, it opens in what is reported as
>  Preview Mode.
> This causes the speech to only read what is in one of the columns on the
> page, for instance in a received and scanned letter, you may not get much
> more than the addresses.
>
> I guess I - somehow - could change to another View-setting. But how do I do
> that, and which View-setting is prefered to have all the text show up in WE?
> And, is there any way for me to "lock" Word to always open in that view,
> even when creating new documents?
>
> As it stands, I will have to open the document in Word, then Cut and Paste
> the contents into a Notepad screen, to have all the text shown and read by
> my Window-Eyes. Would have been great to be able to operate all the text
> directly in Word.
>
> BTW, is there a simple way for me to jump from one column in a text, to the
> Next/Previous??
>
> Thanks all,
>
> --
> David
>
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RE: Word 2007 question

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi David,

My guess is your document, as it came from the web, has been blocked from
full editing.
If you open its properties fromits parent folder, in the General tab you
should be able to use the mouse pointer to click Unblock to release the file
and then click Ok.
This should enable full editing.

Hth,

Rod

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Of David via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:04 PM
To: WE English Mailinglist 
Subject: Word 2007 question

Running Office 2007, under Win7 64. Latest WE.

Whenever I open a document in MSWord, it opens in what is reported as
 Preview Mode.
This causes the speech to only read what is in one of the columns on the
page, for instance in a received and scanned letter, you may not get much
more than the addresses.

I guess I - somehow - could change to another View-setting. But how do I do
that, and which View-setting is prefered to have all the text show up in WE?
And, is there any way for me to "lock" Word to always open in that view,
even when creating new documents?

As it stands, I will have to open the document in Word, then Cut and Paste
the contents into a Notepad screen, to have all the text shown and read by
my Window-Eyes. Would have been great to be able to operate all the text
directly in Word.

BTW, is there a simple way for me to jump from one column in a text, to the
Next/Previous??

Thanks all,

--
David

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Word 2007 question

[David via Talk]

Running Office 2007, under Win7 64. Latest WE.

Whenever I open a document in MSWord, it opens in what is reported as
Preview Mode.
This causes the speech to only read what is in one of the columns on the 
page, for instance in a received and scanned letter, you may not get 
much more than the addresses.


I guess I - somehow - could change to another View-setting. But how do I 
do that, and which View-setting is prefered to have all the text show up 
in WE? And, is there any way for me to "lock" Word to always open in 
that view, even when creating new documents?


As it stands, I will have to open the document in Word, then Cut and 
Paste the contents into a Notepad screen, to have all the text shown and 
read by my Window-Eyes. Would have been great to be able to operate all 
the text directly in Word.


BTW, is there a simple way for me to jump from one column in a text, to 
the Next/Previous??


Thanks all,

--
David

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Just info re windows 10

[Don Smith via Talk]

Hello:

 

Just letting folks know re my jurney to windows 10.

 

I was running windows 7 and we 9.4 and was reluctant to update to windows
10.

 

So my grandson came and I said let's do it.

 

I am now running windows 10 and quite pleased.

 

Did the normal update, then after instlling, I reinstalled 9.4 of we.

 

It was still not quite and after checking with we support was advised to go
to the apps, then to diagnosis and to I think it was to reinstall or repair
the video drivers and bingo, windows 10 is running very smoothly.

 

I find no bugs and I just have to learn some of the new features.

 

I have a normal desktop, finding the start page is fine, outlook email is
working fine, now all I have to learn is that sneaky ribbon.

 

Cheers

 

I do feel  a sighted helper is an asset.

Don

 

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RE: Menus

[Rebecca Lineberger via Talk]

I have Word 2010, Windows 10 and Window-Eyes 9.4.
I can press alt for the home tab and then tab to font.  I can then arrow down 
through a list of fonts, or I can tab to size, and again, arrow through a list 
of sizes. I can also just type what I want in the edit boxes.
Instead of using the menu, I press control-d for font.  I can tab to size from 
there, but the quickest way to increase size is to press control-greater than 
to increase it and control-less than to decrease it.  The default size is 11 
points, but after that it skips to an even number and goes up or down by 2 
points.
My apps are all current and the set file is current for Word 2010.
Also, the display driver for Windows 10 has been repaired.
HTH.
Rebecca
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From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:43 PM
To: Naomi Knudsen; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Menus

Regretfully, I don't have this setup available to test. But, you should 
definitely check to make sure that the correct Office set files are installed 
and loaded when using Word (e.g. Office 2010). Maybe others on this list are 
using Word 2010 on Windows 10 and can let you know if they are having the same 
issue. But, I suspect that the combination of Office 2010 and Windows 10 is not 
very common and not heavily tested.
Best,
Marc

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Naomi Knudsen via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:27 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Menus

I am using Office 2010, Windows10 and WE 9.4.

With Windows7 in a Word document, I could press the alt key then tab across to 
“font" and "font size”. From either of those tabs, I could arrow up and down to 
choose a font or a font size. 

Now, after upgrading to Windows10 and WE 9.4, when I follow these steps, when I 
try to arrow up and down to choose a different font or font size, WE just says 
“blank” repeatedly.  

Blessings,
Naomi in Michigan


Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:29:06 +
From: Marc Solomon via Talk >
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >
Subject: Re: Menus
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Naomi,
Are you using the Ribbon or Font dialogue to make these adjustments? What 
version of Word? Can you list the exact steps you are using when the problem 
occurs? 
Regards,
Marc

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On June 12, 2016 7:56:27 AM Naomi Knudsen via Talk > wrote:

> I have Windows10 and WE 9.4. WE will not read some of the menu items as it 
> used to do with Windows7. For example, in Word, when I want to change a font 
> size or style, WE will not read the menus. Do I need to adjust some setting, 
> or is their a different way to make these adjustments with Windows10?
> Thanks for the help
> 
> Blessings,
> Naomi in Michigan
> 
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Re: Menus

[Jim via Talk]

Naomi, if you are using Office 2007, then you only need to press the 
'context menu key'.  Then you simply arrow through till you get to 
'fonts'.  When I pressed enter on fonts, I could here all my choices.   
  I just tried this and all worked fine.  I am using W.E.9.4 on a 
Windows 10 system.  Give this a try.   Good Luck & Have A Good Day! de

.

On 13-Jun-16 12:27, Naomi Knudsen via Talk wrote:

I am using Office 2010, Windows10 and WE 9.4.

With Windows7 in a Word document, I could press the alt key then tab across to 
“font" and "font size”. From either of those tabs, I could arrow up and down to 
choose a font or a font size.

Now, after upgrading to Windows10 and WE 9.4, when I follow these steps, when I 
try to arrow up and down to choose a different font or font size, WE just says 
“blank” repeatedly.

Blessings,
Naomi in Michigan


Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:29:06 +
From: Marc Solomon via Talk >
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >
Subject: Re: Menus
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Naomi,
Are you using the Ribbon or Font dialogue to make these adjustments? What 
version of Word? Can you list the exact steps you are using when the problem 
occurs?
Regards,
Marc

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On June 12, 2016 7:56:27 AM Naomi Knudsen via Talk > wrote:


I have Windows10 and WE 9.4. WE will not read some of the menu items as it used 
to do with Windows7. For example, in Word, when I want to change a font size or 
style, WE will not read the menus. Do I need to adjust some setting, or is 
their a different way to make these adjustments with Windows10?
Thanks for the help

Blessings,
Naomi in Michigan


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RE: Menus

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

After doing the upgrade to win10 make sure you install 9.4 over itself and then 
go to apps/diagnostics/repair windows 10 display driver and see if that helps.

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:43 PM
To: Naomi Knudsen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Menus

Regretfully, I don't have this setup available to test. But, you should 
definitely check to make sure that the correct Office set files are installed 
and loaded when using Word (e.g. Office 2010). Maybe others on this list are 
using Word 2010 on Windows 10 and can let you know if they are having the same 
issue. But, I suspect that the combination of Office 2010 and Windows 10 is not 
very common and not heavily tested.
Best,
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Naomi Knudsen via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:27 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Menus

I am using Office 2010, Windows10 and WE 9.4.

With Windows7 in a Word document, I could press the alt key then tab across to 
“font" and "font size”. From either of those tabs, I could arrow up and down to 
choose a font or a font size. 

Now, after upgrading to Windows10 and WE 9.4, when I follow these steps, when I 
try to arrow up and down to choose a different font or font size, WE just says 
“blank” repeatedly.  

Blessings,
Naomi in Michigan


Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:29:06 +
From: Marc Solomon via Talk >
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >
Subject: Re: Menus
Message-ID:
<1bd2fc305919484fa6900b4ae1106...@ai2smail02.aisquared.com 
>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Naomi,
Are you using the Ribbon or Font dialogue to make these adjustments? What 
version of Word? Can you list the exact steps you are using when the problem 
occurs? 
Regards,
Marc

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On June 12, 2016 7:56:27 AM Naomi Knudsen via Talk > wrote:

> I have Windows10 and WE 9.4. WE will not read some of the menu items as it 
> used to do with Windows7. For example, in Word, when I want to change a font 
> size or style, WE will not read the menus. Do I need to adjust some setting, 
> or is their a different way to make these adjustments with Windows10?
> Thanks for the help
> 
> Blessings,
> Naomi in Michigan
> 
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Re: a very strange thunderbird problem

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Probably not relevant, but how are you deleting the trash messages?  Are 
you going through your context menu?


On 6/13/2016 4:44 AM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

Hey guys,
OK i have never gotten this message before.  I just tried to delete
about 200 messages.  Thunderbird tells me that trash is full and can't
hold any more messages, it tells me the folder is full.  So what do i
do, i deleted about a thousand messages, and it still tells me it's
full.  If i delete about a thousand from trash and add 200 after i
deleted it, that's not full.  Any ideas?
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RE: Menus

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Regretfully, I don't have this setup available to test. But, you should 
definitely check to make sure that the correct Office set files are installed 
and loaded when using Word (e.g. Office 2010). Maybe others on this list are 
using Word 2010 on Windows 10 and can let you know if they are having the same 
issue. But, I suspect that the combination of Office 2010 and Windows 10 is not 
very common and not heavily tested.
Best,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Naomi Knudsen via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:27 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Menus

I am using Office 2010, Windows10 and WE 9.4.

With Windows7 in a Word document, I could press the alt key then tab across to 
“font" and "font size”. From either of those tabs, I could arrow up and down to 
choose a font or a font size. 

Now, after upgrading to Windows10 and WE 9.4, when I follow these steps, when I 
try to arrow up and down to choose a different font or font size, WE just says 
“blank” repeatedly.  

Blessings,
Naomi in Michigan


Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:29:06 +
From: Marc Solomon via Talk >
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >
Subject: Re: Menus
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Naomi,
Are you using the Ribbon or Font dialogue to make these adjustments? What 
version of Word? Can you list the exact steps you are using when the problem 
occurs? 
Regards,
Marc

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On June 12, 2016 7:56:27 AM Naomi Knudsen via Talk > wrote:

> I have Windows10 and WE 9.4. WE will not read some of the menu items as it 
> used to do with Windows7. For example, in Word, when I want to change a font 
> size or style, WE will not read the menus. Do I need to adjust some setting, 
> or is their a different way to make these adjustments with Windows10?
> Thanks for the help
> 
> Blessings,
> Naomi in Michigan
> 
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Re: Menus

[Naomi Knudsen via Talk]

I am using Office 2010, Windows10 and WE 9.4.

With Windows7 in a Word document, I could press the alt key then tab across to 
“font" and "font size”. From either of those tabs, I could arrow up and down to 
choose a font or a font size. 

Now, after upgrading to Windows10 and WE 9.4, when I follow these steps, when I 
try to arrow up and down to choose a different font or font size, WE just says 
“blank” repeatedly.  

Blessings,
Naomi in Michigan


Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:29:06 +
From: Marc Solomon via Talk >
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >
Subject: Re: Menus
Message-ID:
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>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Naomi,
Are you using the Ribbon or Font dialogue to make these adjustments? What 
version of Word? Can you list the exact steps you are using when the problem 
occurs? 
Regards,
Marc

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On June 12, 2016 7:56:27 AM Naomi Knudsen via Talk > wrote:

> I have Windows10 and WE 9.4. WE will not read some of the menu items as it 
> used to do with Windows7. For example, in Word, when I want to change a font 
> size or style, WE will not read the menus. Do I need to adjust some setting, 
> or is their a different way to make these adjustments with Windows10?
> Thanks for the help
> 
> Blessings,
> Naomi in Michigan
> 
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Re: a very strange thunderbird problem

[Singing Sparrow via Talk]

you might want to increase your space that thunderbird uses go to. alt t 
for tools o for options and on the advanced section you need to choose 
network and disc space tab until you hear the amount of disc space and 
choose how much disc space you want to allow thunderbird to use. also 
you might want to compact all folders .



On 6/13/2016 3:44 AM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

Hey guys,
OK i have never gotten this message before.  I just tried to delete 
about 200 messages.  Thunderbird tells me that trash is full and can't 
hold any more messages, it tells me the folder is full.  So what do i 
do, i deleted about a thousand messages, and it still tells me it's 
full.  If i delete about a thousand from trash and add 200 after i 
deleted it, that's not full.  Any ideas?

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Re: Quick Question

[Amanda Lee via Talk]

Always look at the end of a message for list-related links such as archives 
can be found as follows:

http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Huber via Talk" 
To: "Tom Fairhurst" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Quick Question


HI Tom:

I think that there is a list archive, but I have never used it so I
don't know exactly where it is.
Kevin Huber

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> Is there still a way to view and search through the previous posts of the
> list? I tried recently and could not. I thought we could in the past.
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Re: Quick Question

[Kevin Huber via Talk]

HI Tom:

I think that there is a list archive, but I have never used it so I
don't know exactly where it is.
Kevin Huber

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a very strange thunderbird problem

[Jed Barton via Talk]

Hey guys,
OK i have never gotten this message before.  I just tried to delete 
about 200 messages.  Thunderbird tells me that trash is full and can't 
hold any more messages, it tells me the folder is full.  So what do i 
do, i deleted about a thousand messages, and it still tells me it's 
full.  If i delete about a thousand from trash and add 200 after i 
deleted it, that's not full.  Any ideas?

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