keep hearing minimize folder view

[richard kurlander via Talk]

when I am in a message using eudora I hear minimize folder view. how 
can I fix this?


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Re: can't associate set file for desktop.

[richard kurlander via Talk]

I have the same problem with duxbury where I want to take out the 
windoweyes script since everytime I open duxbury aisquared comes up. 
rod told me the same thing doesn't work. if you are awake in the us. 
can you call me 7182387130At 06:19 PM 1/12/2019, you wrote:

thanks, i got it working.
i did all of this.
when w e loaded and on the desktop  the file that w e said  is 
associated when i first open the w e control panel was windowslivemail.set

but the file that was showing in current associations was explorer.set.
not windowslivemail.set. so i could not disassociate it.
i found out that even though explorer.set was shoing  in current 
associations it showed it was  set to none. once i told it to use by 
class and saved it. it is useing the explorer.set file every time 
now when i first load w e.



-Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 6:37 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: can't associate set file for desktop.

Hi Netbat,

First, ensure that Show Advanced Options is checked on the Help menu 
within the WE control panel.

Place focus on the desktop, and then open the WE control panel.
Press A to highlight the Association node within the treeview.
Press right arrow to expand the Association node, and then right 
arrow again to highlight Current Association.

Press Tab twice to place focus on the Association By combo box.
Press down arrow twice to select None.
Tab once to place focus on the Save and Associate button, and then 
press the spacebar to activate it.

Press Escape to close the WE control panel, and your task is complete.

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: January 11, 2019 8:15 PM
To: via Talk 
Cc: net bat 
Subject: can't associate set file for desktop.

if theres anyone left. grin
i have w e 9.5?
i have a minor problem when w e first loads with windows 7.
it loads with the windows live mail set file when it gets to the desktop or
when on the desktop and i manually reload w e.
i have to open the w e control panel and close it. then the explorer set file
will become the associated set file.
when i open the w e control panel it says windowslivemail.set is loaded and is
the associated set file.
but when i get to the file  associations menu it says explorer is the loaded
set file and this is the one associated.
i can disassociate this and it will use default.set and mone. but w e still
loads with the windowslivemail.set file every time i boot to the desktop or
reload w e after i am on the desktop.
i can't disassociate the windowslivemail and start over.
thanks if there is anyone out there.

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RE: another question about removing apt script

[richard kurlander via Talk]

nno list dialogue is coming up. no idea what you are talking about. 
nothing like that happens when you open the we. control pannel.othing 
that you are telling me is working. At 12:31 AM 1/11/2019, you wrote:

Hi Richard,

In order to make Duxbury the active application, press Alt-Tab 
repeatedly and slowly until you have heard the word Duxbury.
You can confirm which application is the active application by using 
the Window-Eyes TitleStatus of Current Application hot key, Ctrl-Shift-T.


Good luck,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk 
 On 
Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk

Sent: January 10, 2019 11:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: richard kurlander 
Subject: RE: another question about removing apt script

how do you make dbt an active file?At 07:48 AM 1/10/2019, you wrote:
>Hi Richard,
>
>I recommend removing the Duxbury set file association as follows:
>1.  Make Duxbury the active application.  If necessary, close
>the Internet Explorer dialog you mentioned appears when Duxbury opens.
>2.  Open the Window-Eyes control panel using
>Ctrl-backslash.  Press Alt-H to open the Help menu, and arrow down
>the menu until you come to the option called Show advanced
>options.  If the option is checked, press Escape twice to return to
>the control panel.  If the option is not checked, press Enter to
>check it, and this will return focus to the control panel.
>3.  Press F6 once or twice to ensure that you are in the
>treeview, and then press the letter A to highlight the Association
>node.  Press right arrow to expand this node, and then right arrow
>again to highlight Current Association.
>4.  Press Tab once, and focus will be place in the Set File edit
>box, and you will probably hear Duxbury.set, which Is the usual set
>file associated with the Duxbury program.  Pressing
>Tab once again places focus in a combo box which describes the
>manner in which association is accomplished, but the only thing you
>really need to know is that you can press down arrow until you hear
>None.  Once you do this, pressing Tab once places focus on a button
>labelled Save and Associate.  Pressing spacebar on this button will
>associate your program with None, meaning that you will have removed
>the association of the set file with your Duxbury program, and you
>should no longer have any dialog box opening up when Duxbury loads.
>
>I hope this works for you.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Rod
>
>Sent from Outlook for Windows
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Talk
> On
>Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk
>Sent: January 10, 2019 1:16 AM
>To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>Cc: richard kurlander 
>Subject: another question about removing apt script
>
>I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury
>12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that?
>when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should
>welcome to dbt
>
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RE: another question about removing apt script

[richard kurlander via Talk]

how do you make dbt an active file?At 07:48 AM 1/10/2019, you wrote:

Hi Richard,

I recommend removing the Duxbury set file association as follows:
1.  Make Duxbury the active application.  If necessary, close 
the Internet Explorer dialog you mentioned appears when Duxbury opens.
2.  Open the Window-Eyes control panel using 
Ctrl-backslash.  Press Alt-H to open the Help menu, and arrow down 
the menu until you come to the option called Show advanced 
options.  If the option is checked, press Escape twice to return to 
the control panel.  If the option is not checked, press Enter to 
check it, and this will return focus to the control panel.
3.  Press F6 once or twice to ensure that you are in the 
treeview, and then press the letter A to highlight the Association 
node.  Press right arrow to expand this node, and then right arrow 
again to highlight Current Association.
4.  Press Tab once, and focus will be place in the Set File edit 
box, and you will probably hear Duxbury.set, which Is the usual set 
file associated with the Duxbury program.  Pressing
Tab once again places focus in a combo box which describes the 
manner in which association is accomplished, but the only thing you 
really need to know is that you can press down arrow until you hear 
None.  Once you do this, pressing Tab once places focus on a button 
labelled Save and Associate.  Pressing spacebar on this button will 
associate your program with None, meaning that you will have removed 
the association of the set file with your Duxbury program, and you 
should no longer have any dialog box opening up when Duxbury loads.


I hope this works for you.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
 On 
Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk

Sent: January 10, 2019 1:16 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Cc: richard kurlander 
Subject: another question about removing apt script

I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury
12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that?
when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should
welcome to dbt

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RE: another question about removing apt script

[richard kurlander via Talk]

this seems confusing, please call me 7182387130 and walk me through 
this.At 07:48 AM 1/10/2019, you wrote:

Hi Richard,

I recommend removing the Duxbury set file association as follows:
1.  Make Duxbury the active application.  If necessary, close 
the Internet Explorer dialog you mentioned appears when Duxbury opens.
2.  Open the Window-Eyes control panel using 
Ctrl-backslash.  Press Alt-H to open the Help menu, and arrow down 
the menu until you come to the option called Show advanced 
options.  If the option is checked, press Escape twice to return to 
the control panel.  If the option is not checked, press Enter to 
check it, and this will return focus to the control panel.
3.  Press F6 once or twice to ensure that you are in the 
treeview, and then press the letter A to highlight the Association 
node.  Press right arrow to expand this node, and then right arrow 
again to highlight Current Association.
4.  Press Tab once, and focus will be place in the Set File edit 
box, and you will probably hear Duxbury.set, which Is the usual set 
file associated with the Duxbury program.  Pressing
Tab once again places focus in a combo box which describes the 
manner in which association is accomplished, but the only thing you 
really need to know is that you can press down arrow until you hear 
None.  Once you do this, pressing Tab once places focus on a button 
labelled Save and Associate.  Pressing spacebar on this button will 
associate your program with None, meaning that you will have removed 
the association of the set file with your Duxbury program, and you 
should no longer have any dialog box opening up when Duxbury loads.


I hope this works for you.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
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Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk

Sent: January 10, 2019 1:16 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Cc: richard kurlander 
Subject: another question about removing apt script

I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury
12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that?
when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should
welcome to dbt

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another question about removing apt script

[richard kurlander via Talk]

I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury 
12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that? 
when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should 
welcome to dbt


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deleting an apt script

[richard kurlander via Talk]

want to delete duxbury scripts from windoweyes9.5.4 since the new 
version 12.4 gives an error when opening duxbury. can't remember how 
to get into ap central and delete an apt script.


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RE: my set files changed.

[richard kurlander via Talk]

rod I wonder if you can show me how to put apps that are in 
windoweyes that you have in drop box. my phone number is 7182387130 
call at night as I work during the day. 9:00 or 10:pm is good.At 
04:50 PM 12/2/2018, you wrote:

Hi,

It just occurred to me what must have happened.
Somehow the All Users Profile must have become active.
You know, this is the one which is available when you run WE as 
Administrator and then you can switch to it in the Profiles node.
Unless you uninstalled the Insert-key layout app from the All Users 
Profile, it would still exist in your installation of WE, just 
waiting for an inadvertent switch to the All Users Profile.

Well, that's my two-cents worth, Canadian currency. Smile

All the best,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk 
 On 
Behalf Of net bat via Talk

Sent: December 2, 2018 1:43 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: net bat 
Subject: Re: my set files changed.

i replaced my w e default folder with my backup folder and it is 
working again.
i always turn everything off  with a power strip when  i go to 
bed.  there were

a few times when the computer turned itself on, even with a complete shutdown.
at least no one can hack my computer when it is off. they can
in sleep mode if the power strip is still turned on.
no risk of the computer power supply catching on fire while i am asleep.
extending the life of the computer and the bearings in the fans. etc.



-Original Message-
From: David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:47 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: David
Subject: Re: my set files changed.

Jst for the fun, in all this playing around, did you try restarting your
computer? Have seen a few cases, where some behavior sticks, and once
the computer has been restarted, things work normally again. Just be
aware, I am talking about a real restart, not just going in and out of
sleeping or hibernation mode. Worth to keep in mind, should you run into
a similar case later on.


David

On 12/2/2018 2:46 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Very strange. But I'm glad you were able to get it back in line.
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 12/2/2018 2:36 AM, net bat via Talk wrote:
>> i re installed the wineyes and global factory set files with no
>> change. then i copied my backup default folder from 2 days ago and it
>> is working now.
>> thanks.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 9:21 PM
>> To: net bat via Talk
>> Cc: Tom Kingston
>> Subject: Re: my set files changed.
>>
>> Very strange; especially be it that you can change it and it works and
>> when you change it back to Insert+T it speaks the title.
>> Just for the heck of it I'd try turning apps off. If that doesn't work
>> I'd try assigning Insert+T to something else and see if it works there.
>> Good luck,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 12/1/2018 10:16 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
>>> nope, this didn't make any difference.
>>> the time date hot keys are set to global andinsert t.
>>> but they are doing the same thing as the control shift t keys for
>>> program titles.
>>> i did find out if i change the time and date hot keys to other keys
>>> it will work and when i oput it back to insert t it speaks the
>>> program title again. there were no warnings that another hot key was
>>> assigned when i put it back.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 6:47 PM
>>> To: net bat via Talk
>>> Cc: Tom Kingston
>>> Subject: Re: my set files changed.
>>>
>>> Check the Keyboard > Layouts and make sure it's set to Window-Eyes
>>> defaults. There were also some JAWS and I think other keyboard layouts
>>> included in a script with hot keys to turn them on, which I did exactly
>>> once by accident before uninstalling those scripts.
>>> This is why I uninstall all scripts I'm never going to use.
>>> Hth,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/1/2018 9:17 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
 this is a weerrd one.
 w e the last version.
 all of a sudden, when i press insert t to get the time it is saying
 default
 normal instead.
 i didn't make any changes to any of the set files.
 it is doing this when running any program.
 in the hot keys/miscelanious menu it is defined as insert t. figure
 this out.
 rebooting the computer did not make any difference. i hope i don't
 have to
 reset the factory set files.
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Re: lost my outlook enhanced app

[richard kurlander via Talk]

how do you get to this and freput it in the app list?At 05:05 PM 
6/6/2018, you wrote:

C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\OutlookEnhance.wepm

On 6/6/2018 12:38 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:

Lost my outlook enhanced app using windows 10 ver 1709 where can I get it?
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Re: still having same problem with toggle

[richard kurlander via Talk]

so how do you get toggle to work like it used to?At 11:12 PM 
6/5/2018, you wrote:

At 04:06 PM 6/5/2018, Kurlander Richard \(75\) via Talk wrote:
>Whenever I go to  the keyboard settings it says toggle button I have
>to hit enter twice to hear for example voice global toggle scope. Why?
>I am using windows 10 version 1709 my it. Guy just reimaged the
>machine and the problem isn't fixed.


In this case, the toggle button will rotate you between global and 
app settings. If you choose global, your settings will be applied to 
all setfiles.

Orlando Enrique Fiol

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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

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where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it. 
It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control 
panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do 
it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs 
open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to 
default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder. 
That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall 
and reinstall WE.

Tom


On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at 
work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me 
to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you 
think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling 
that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured 
out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel 
and re-entering it solved the problem.
If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only 
puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot 
often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks 
and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you 
tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless 
you press enter twice.

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Re: toggle and not whole phrase

[richard kurlander via Talk]

tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at work 
using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me to hear 
the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you think 
something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling that no 
luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured out 
why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel and 
re-entering it solved the problem.
If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only puts 
the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot often 
solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks and other 
imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you 
tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless 
you press enter twice.

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hearing application main window when closing an item

[richard kurlander via Talk]

hearing application main window when closing an item this just
happened when I updated to win 10 1803

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Re: here is address for NVDA group

[richard kurlander via Talk]

when I tried to subscribe it didn't work. I sent a message to 
nvda+subscr...@groups.ioat 10:32 PM 2/27/2018, you wrote:

 Group Email Addresses
Post: n...@nvda.groups.io
Subscribe: nvda+subscr...@nvda.groups.io
Unsubscribe: nvda+unsubscr...@nvda.groups.io
Group Owner: nvda+ow...@nvda.groups.io
Help: nvda+h...@nvda.groups.io
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ctrl key in nvda

[richard kurlander via Talk]

does anyone know how to make the ctrl key in nvda say control? 


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viewing downloads after entering ctrlj

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how do view downloads aftering ctrlj? how do you read them/?

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looking for downloads after entering ctrlj

[richard kurlander via Talk]

how do you search for downloads after entering ctrlj

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not getting at my home e-mail

[richard kurlander via Talk]

is the talk list still active? For some reason I'mnot getting my 
messages at my verizon e-mail r.kurlan...@verizon.net


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figured out the code

[richard kurlander via Talk]

the code is ctrlalth for getting rid of words like from size etc. you 
must enter it before you are in a message.


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code for mailbox header editor in outlook

[richard kurlander via Talk]

still haven't heard from anyone with the code for mailbox header 
editor for outlook to get rid of words like size receive from etc.


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can't read messages in outlook 2016

[richard kurlander via Talk]

using windoweyes 9.5.4 with outlook 2016 when I first open a new 
message the message don't read, I have to close the message and then 
reopen it so it can read. don't use vertalization and never did use 
we9.5.4 and outlook 2016 at work use outlook 2013 no problem. only 
time I use outlook at home is to read my work e-mail.


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problems reading message in outlook 2016

[richard kurlander via Talk]

when I first open a new message in outlook 2016 windoweyes 9.5.4 the 
message won't I have to close the message and then reopen it for the 
message to read. I don't use vertalization and never do. what is the fix?


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RE: Test

[richard kurlander via Talk]

when I tried to subscribe to your new group I got no reply.At 09:14 
PM 7/23/2017, you wrote:

working

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:07 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Test

Test

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icons on desk top

[richard kurlander via Talk]

fixed the problem.

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putting icons in order on the desk top

[richard kurlander via Talk]

	how do you put the icons in order on the desk top? the icons are not 
reading in number order. forgot the keystrokes


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RE: FW: whole migrating situation

[richard kurlander via Talk]

AI have a full time job, a lot of blindpeople are unemployeed and 
they don't have the money to even buy software or embossers if they 
want to braille. gw micro should have been working with microsoft 
from the getgo. People can work from home and work in their underwear 
to help people, that's why vfo should have 24 hour tech support. t 
04:25 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote:

Richard,

Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know. That
has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if not from
their inception.

However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech capability.
Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator functionality, but because it is not
designed into the operating system from the beginning it does not have good
enough functionality for anything other than the simplest.

Therefore the various software houses that wrote and sold the solutions for
the problem came up with speech reading software.

I cannot think of anyone who would provide their effort and brain power full
time for many years for nothing.
How would you expect them to feed and clothe themselves and their families?

~The object of your ire should be Microsoft, not the screen reader
manufacturers.




Regards, John

Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076



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[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:28 PM
To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation

It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people do not
need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra software and
even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind people should be
given software so they can survive in this tech world. I've read many  of
your e-mails and you get mad like me if mlb messes up and  you are
completely right however you have all the time in the world since and I'm
not trying to offend  you, but once you told me that you don't work and if I
am wrong now I'm sorry. You shouldn't have to go a million steps to be able
use a  computer if  you are blind. Sighted people all they do is click and
drag all day long. If they use any  key strokes it is the windows key
strokes since they don't need to know any key strokes.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:44 PM
To: 'Nick Sarames' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation

I agree either accept the offer or don't.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM
To: Kurlander Richard (75); Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: FW: whole migrating situation

With all due respect, you're sounding like a child.  One thing I have
realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and
experiences WE users have.  So while you and I don't use mouse keys (for
example), others do.  I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so probably
any screen reader I use will work for my needs or wants, but others need far
more than I do.

No one is forcing you to purchase anything, but likely, you will have to
adapt to new technology whether that technology is adaptive or commercial
(meaning for the sighted public as well).

On 5/16/2017 10:13 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurlander Richard (75)
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM
> To: 'talk-l...@window-eyes.com' 
> Subject: whole migrating situation
>
> As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are
> using window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and
> Aaron and all of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since vfo
> bought all these other companies that they should tried to make the
> screen readers as close to each other as possible, not having to have
> to learn a new screen reader. I think that when you use screen readers
> you should only have to use arrow keys, tab keys, application keys not
> use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is a pain in the neck to keep
> switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have had a window-eyes
> keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is that Microsoft wants
> everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox or chrome any  more.
> I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel or
> listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do  you think I
> have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where are
> the cheat sheets that
  c
>   an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a geek. All
screne readers should be 

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

[richard kurlander via Talk]

if you a computer engineer you know a lot more 
than I do and people like you should help other 
blind people by giving them hands on training if 
you do tech support.At 04:01 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all 
need different things.  I am a computer 
engineer, so I need access to some of the more 
advanced aspects of the screen reader to use my 
various software development tools.  Screen 
readers are there to help all of us.  And that 
means having lots of features that some of us 
will use and that others will not. Best, Juan 
Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com 619-750-9431 
(M) |  858-777-3311 (F) My WebSite | 
Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn -Original 
Message- From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+juanhernandez98=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:01 AM To: Russ 
Kiehne ; Window-Eyes 
Discussion List  
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration I 
don't like that either if this what does happen. 
I use outlook 2013 at work part of office 365 
and at home I still use Eudora 7.1.9 for my 
client e-mail and I have also outlook set up as 
I have also office 365 at home. Don't you feel 
that screne readers should be made as simple as 
possible? -Original Message- From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Tuesday, 
May 16, 2017 11:40 AM To: Steve Nutt 
; 'Dennis Long' 
; 'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List'  Subject: Re: 
Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration I just wished all 
of the graphics were labeled in the windows live 
mail app. When I arrow up and down in the 
windows live maill app in jaws, it won’t say 
things like, replied, forwarded, read etc.  It 
does in window eyes. -Original Message- 
From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 
2017 1:21 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes 
Discussion List' Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to 
JAWS Migration Hi, It really depends on what you 
want to do.  NVDA is vastly better on the web 
than JAWS and I believe always will be.  But not 
configurable enough. All the best Steve 
-Original Message- From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 15 May 
2017 17:45 To: 'Darrell Bowles' 
; 'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List'  Cc: 
'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
 Subject: RE: 
Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Got news for one 
or two user won't make a difference.  You get 
what you pay for or don't pay for.  NVDA is 
nowhere as good as Jaws! -Original 
Message- From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: 
Monday, May 15, 2017 12:38 PM To: 
aist...@ameritech.net; Window-Eyes Discussion 
List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration 
If you really want to send a message to VFO, 
either use narrator, Supernova, or donate to 
NVDA! -Original Message- From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Adaptive Information Systems Inc. 
via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:35 PM To: 
'Doug Geoffray' ; 
'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
 Subject: RE: 
Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Hi Doug, Is there 
any chance another company could buy window-eyes 
and keep it developing in to the great screen 
reader it is now? What a crying shame we blind 
screen reader folks only have one choice here in 
the U.S. for screen readers!! So I am again 
looking at Dolphin screen reader, since I use to 
have it back with version 3.5 and also learning 
better how to use NVDA, though NVDA has a good 
way to go to equal Window-eyes! Regards, Roger 
Behm Adaptive Information Systems Inc. We Make 
Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and 
Reading Disabled Roger A. Behm, President 1611 
Clover Lane Janesville WI 53545-1388 Fax: 
608-758-7898 Voice: 608-758-0933 Email: 
aist...@ameritech.net Web Page: 
www.adaptiveinformation.org -Original 
Message- From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: 
Monday, May 15, 2017 9:48 AM To: Window-Eyes 
Discussion List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS 
Migration Window-Eyes will continue to run as it 
always has.  Even if you migrate you can 
continue to have Window-Eyes installed and 
switch back and forth as you need to.  The only 
thing with Window-Eyes is it will no longer be 
upgraded. So 9.5.4 is the last version. Regards, 
Doug -Original Message- From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 
2017 10:28 AM To: Aaron Smith 

Re: whole migrating situation

[richard kurlander via Talk]

you used to work for we I feel as a blind person 
that tech support in these companies should give 
hands on training for free not just say read a 
manual or listen to tutorials. that doesn't work 
for me. I learn better with hands on. I work all 
day and certainly do not have the time to read 
manuals or listen to tutorials. If I switch to 
jaws I have sma's from we that will be switched 
over if I get another screen reader I would have 
to pay money. is there a list of screen reader 
companies in the us?At 03:06 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
Hi, this is not true. What about other browsers 
like Firefox and Chrome? There is always choice. 
-- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer 
- RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 
832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal 
Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: 
train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and 
@RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced 
with a computer, deserves to be.” - David 
Thornburg On 5/16/2017 1:35 PM, Kurlander 
Richard (75) via Talk wrote: > We have a 
monopoly now, since eventually ie will be gone 
and everyone will have to use  Microsoft edge 
and if jaws is the only screne reader that can 
work with Microsoft edge what can you do? If 
Microsoft decides  to  change windows to do 
updates and office  which they did when they 
introduced the ribbon things became  harder. > 
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webpage not working correctly using windoweyes

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when I go to www.necfrontrow.com/fullevent.phpthere is a list of 
archive basketball games. when I go to the game on hursday febb. 2 
liu vs robert morris and I click on the watch archive link I hear no 
sound. why? when I click another game on the same day saint francis u 
at saint francis brooklyn I hear sound when I click on the link of 
course using the enter key. I use we9.5.4 and windows 10


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send/receive in outlook

[richard kurlander via Talk]

how do you get to the send/receive in outlook 2016 to set up how many minutes

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getting to program files x86 in windows 10

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how do you get to program files x86 in windows 10?

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Re: hearing edit in eudora also when you open a message nothing is reading

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think fixed the problem. thank god.At 03:58 PM 11/5/2016, you wrote:
hearing the word edit in eudora also when you open a message nothing 
is being read right away not even the header what do I select in reclassing?


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hearing edit in eudora also when you open a message nothing is reading

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hearing the word edit in eudora also when you open a message nothing 
is being read right away not even the header what do I select in reclassing?


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RE: eudora 7.1.9

[richard kurlander via Talk]

You want  to know something Eudora easiest for a blind person to use there
are querks but it can work. 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 11:37 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) <rkur...@schools.nyc.gov>; Window-Eyes
Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: eudora 7.1.9

   I didn't even think you could still find, let alone use Eudora.
Welcome back to 2005 or so!

  I also use Verizon and the last time I tried to use it I couldn't send or
even receive email.  I think the program is just plane too old to work
nowadays.



On 11/3/2016 9:54 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
> When I go home and download it should I leave it in it's own directory so
I can get all the extra stuff since I use Verizon as my provider and they
give me a hard time when you use Eudora with a certificate always trying to
trust the certificates which is  a  pain to do. I  use windows 10 at home
and it is giving me a hell of a time to get used to.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
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> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:50 AM
> To: richard kurlander <r.kurlan...@verizon.net>; Window-Eyes 
> Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: eudora 7.1.9
>
> you should receive a sendspace download link shortly.
>
>
> Legend has it that on Thursday 11/3/2016 08:34 AM, richard kurlander 
> via Talk said:
> 
>> Anyone know a good download place to download Eudora 7.1.9 want to 
>> put it on my new home computer
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eudora 7.1.9

[richard kurlander via Talk]

Anyone know a good download place to download Eudora 7.1.9 want to put it on
my new home computer 

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my outlook 2016 issue

[richard kurlander via Talk]

Nobody has  yet to get back to me on my outlook 2016 issue. My issue have a
new computer with windows 10 and  the mail is in brouser mode how  do I
change it? How do I find the bcc field


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having trouble with outlook on home computer

[richard kurlander via Talk]

Have a  new computer at home with windows 10 home edition somehow  the mail
is  reading  like a web page and I can't fix it. Also need to select bcc
field.

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FW: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

[richard kurlander via Talk]

-Original Message-
From: postmas...@verizon.net [mailto:postmas...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:46 AM
To: r.kurlan...@verizon.net
Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields:

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  Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 08:46:18 -0400
  From: "richard kurlander" 
  To: 
  Subject: trouble with outlook 2016

Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

  Recipient address: t...@list.winow-eyes.com
  Reason: Illegal host/domain name found

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RE: history of window eyes

[richard kurlander via Talk]

The number you wrote is 12039264 what is the link? For eudora

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 4:01 PM
To: Dave Basden ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Re: history of window eyes

Hi, do you all remember tiny talk? A version needed for whatever synthesizer
you had installed? At least that is what I remember.
I had it available on my BBS, another memory, (should say several memories),
running, finally evolved into EzyCom, and I think I ran FrontDoor, for the
input to the system because had FidoNet.
1:203.9264

-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:41:46 -0700
Dave Basden via Talk  wrote:

> I might add that Malcolm, who worked as a ranger at Yosemite near Fresno
where I lived at the time, initially called his PC screenreader Vocal-Eyes
and I was one of the beneficiaries.  He had originally designed it for a
fellow ranger at Yosemite who was only partially sighted.  I still see his
name on the lists occasionally.  Bill Grimm was then naming all his software
releases Whatever-talk, so when Malcolm teamed up with Computer Aids, the
program was renamed Screen Talk.  When Doug Geoffrey took over Computer
Aids, he named his screen reader Vocal-Eyes.  Apparently Malcolm had no
objection to that.  Actually Doug wasn't even aware that the name had been
used by Malcolm.  Later GW Micro released Window-Eyes for Windows as, as you
know, Vocal-Eyes was a DOS screen reader.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 04:02 AM 10/17/2016, you wrote:
> >I don't have time to write a very long message, but here's a little >of
the story.
> >In the early 1980s Bill Grimm formed a company, Computer Aids
>Corporation, to create software for the Apple II family of >computers. They
teamed up with Malcolm Holser to create a screen >reader for DOS called
Screen-Talk, which was released in 1985, which >I bought and used. In 1986
Screen-Talk was linked with ProKey, a >macro program, and its functionality
was extended. Somewhere in >there, Doug Geoffray was hired as a programmer.
In 1988 Computer >Aids released the Sounding Board, an ISA-compatible speech
>synthesizer that used the SSI-263 speech chip that was common in >those
days. Dan Wyrick did major work on that project. Near that >time Bill Grimm
died.
> >Dan and Doug put together a new company, GW Micro and marketed the
>new-generation DOS screen reader as Vocal-Eyes.
> >The first Windows 3.0 screen reader was OutSpoken, released in the
>summer of 1992. Later came Automatic Screen Access for Windows and >JAWS
for Windows. Window-Eyes 1.0 came out quite late, in late 1995. >It worked
with Windows 3 and 3.1, even though Windows 95 was already >out and had no
screen reader support from anyone at first. >Window-Eyes 2 was the first W-E
version to support Windows 95, and >came out in the spring of 1997, I think.
> >The revision history of Window-Eyes is on the GW Micro website, >going
way back; it is instructive to read it to see where we have come from.
> >
> >
> >Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> >http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> >-Original Message- From: Drew Clark via Talk
> >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:56 AM
> >To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> >Subject: history of window eyes
> >
> >hi,
> >
> >i am interested to find out the history of window eyes, who created 
> >it and how it was started. is there any webpage/audio podcast that 
> >interviews the g and the w behind gw micro?
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >
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nba audio pass

[richard kurlander via Talk]

does anybody know where I can go to on the nba site to get an 
audio-pass to hear the live audio streams of the games for all the nba teams?


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OUTLOOK 2016

[richard kurlander via Talk]

TRYING TO ADD ANOTHER ACCOUNT TO OUTLOOK 2016 WHEN i HIT ALTFID IT 
SAYS ADD ACCOUNT HOWEVER WHEN i TAB NO PLACE TO PUT ANYTHING IN. USING WE9.5.3


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vfo

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I had a feeling when gwmicro and aisquared merged that something 
would happen. hope that the new  company could find a way to use 
touch screen phones with some sourt of interface to use touch scren phones.


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speech shutting off

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using windoweyes/			es 9.2.3 and windows 8.1 at random speech cuts 
off can't do anything on the computer. I was idle on the computer and 
this happened. had to power down with power and restart. what is going on? 	


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WINAMP 5.66

[richard kurlander via Talk]

HOW DO i GET TO THE FILE TYPES USING WINDOWS 8.1 WITH WINDOWEYES 9.3

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putting items in alphabetical order in a folder on my desktop

[richard kurlander via Talk]

I have a schedule shortcut on my desktop, somehow the schedules got 
out of alphabetical order I am using we9.2 and windows 8.1 how do I fix this?


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this pc folder

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fixed the problem, put a this pc shortcut on my desktop.

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this pc

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using we9.2 with windows 8.1 my this pc shortcut somehow got deleted 
how can I find it and put the shortcut on the desktop?


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turning off protected view in word 2013

[richard kurlander via Talk]

how do you turn off protected view in word 2013? I have a pdf 
document when I try to open it in word I get in protected view must 
enable editing of document.


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upgrading to windows 10

[richard kurlander via Talk]

when I went into my system tray and hit get windows 10 it said  that 
my machine was  compatable however some apps would have to be 
uninstalled during the installation. it said we9.1 I don't have we9.1 
in my machine I have 9.2. I downloaded it over 9.1 didn't uninstall 
9.1 just downloaded it. why would I be getting that message?


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turning off suggestions

[richard kurlander via Talk]

when I am  in ie11 with we9.1.0 keep hearing suggestions when typing 
a website. how do I turn  suggestions  off/?


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RE: print screne

[richard kurlander via Talk]

I  am replying  to you from  my account. I don't want to create 
another account problem exists only when I check mail. I hit ctrlm I 
get the 2 error messages about logging in when I hit ctrlm again it 
works. when I finish reading all my mail  if I go to check more mail 
the same thing happens.. my settings are correct.At 10:49 AM 
7/1/2015, Elizabeth via Talk wrote:
Do you want to copy all of your dominant email settings in Eudora so 
that you can create a second email address with the same settings? 
If so, I use Eudora and know how to do this. I am just checking in 
case what you want to do is create a second account with the same 
settings but, say, a different email address.


Elizabeth

At 10:42 AM 7/1/2015, you wrote:
On my home computer how would I copy all the dominant e-mail 
settings in my Eudora? Virtual view only works for for e-mails, is 
that correct?


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 9:15 AM
To: 'richard kurlander'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: print screne

Hi Richard,

Perhaps the Virtual View app, accessed with Control-Alt-V, which should be
already installed, would do the trick?

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:47 AM
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Subject: print screne

where do I get the print screne ap from windoweyes ap central?

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print screne

[richard kurlander via Talk]

where do I get the print screne ap from windoweyes ap central?

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Re: accessible google site

[richard kurlander via Talk]

what is the accessible guggle site?At 01:46 PM 6/20/2015, Whizza via 
Talk wrote:

Hi,
The accessible Google site is working for me no problems so makes me 
wonder why it's working for some and not others.  How strange!


Cheers,
Sandra.
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RE: speech drops out completely randomly while typing

[richard kurlander via Talk]

I tried ctrl-altw no luckAt 03:55 PM 3/29/2015, Richard G Applegate wrote:

  Have you tried CTRL-ALT-w when this happens?


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Subject: speech drops out completely randomly while typing

using windows 8.1 and windoweyes 9.1.0 speech drops out completely
when  randomly typing in any program. tried making sure that sound
card enhancements were unchecked. tried typing windowsrwineyes.exe no
luck. I have to restart my machine every time.

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hearing suggestions

[richard kurlander via Talk]

when I go into  ie11 I keep hearing suggestions after I hit www. how 
do I turn this off?


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socialeyes

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went to apps list got socialeyes when I went to desktop and hit 
socialeyes said must put in an authorization before you can run it, 
where do you put in the authorization key? no spot.


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keep hearing rpclouddownloadermain2dialogue at startup

[richard kurlander via Talk]

after windoweyes comes on before you get to the desktop I hear 
rpclouddownloadermain2dialogue if I tab I hear change skin and close 
I am using windows 8.1 and windows 9.1 windows is a 32bit


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think my keyboard is in insert layout

[richard kurlander via Talk]

how do I get my keyboard from insert key layout to defalt layout. 
think my board somehow got switched to insert keylayout.


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