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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-18 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk

I certainly hope so. I'm just skeptical since we are talking about the 
parent company of the one who repeatedly sued GW Micro over nothing and did 
the same to Serotech, again over nothing. That's why so many of us are 
worried.


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From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:23 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

If John Blake is the type of CEO that he is being portrayed as being,
much of this feedback will be geting to him.  I actually believe that he
could show some leadership though, and as soon as practicable, tell us
how the new company will stay committed to Ai Squared products.


There is nothing wrong with a profit motive driving this industry's
consolidation.  How many of us know about the high costs of research and
develoment, the long lag time between conceptulasing a piece of
software, developing the code, testing the code, debugging, manual
writing, sales and distribution?


By way of example: I have been ranting on for ages about the urgent need
for Window-Eyes to have improved braille support.  We were told during
this discussion that at last, Ai Squared will have access to braille
specialists as part of the new arrangements.  Great - I say!  Like it or
not, small, innovative companies struggle.  I am hopeful that with some
scale, prices will drop, gbut they may relate to products that none of
us have yet imagined.





Vaughan.


On 6/18/2016 6:18 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
I hear what people are saying, but that doesn't mean that we as 
Window-eyes users should just lie down and give up. If you value 
Window-eyes, then we need to say something.  If it does turn out that JAWS 
wins, then we can at least say we tried.



On 6/17/2016 1:45 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
Oh, Hmm, let's see, just for a second. Freedom Scientific's idea of a 
great

offer, JAWS and Magic student addition for $300 per year, "Using Federal
Quoata funds. They have never, and will not ever, consider the end-user.
Gw-micro/Ai Squared Window-eyes as long as you have a copy of the latest
version of Microsoft office.  Not to mansion before that the payment 
plan.

It's not AI-squared that I have a lack of confidence in, it's Freedom
Scientific.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




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Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Why are so many of you list members acting like the end has come.  I'm
looking forward to the future and hoping for the best in accessibility!
If you expect the worst, that's what you'll get, I'm expecting a positive
outcome and I hope that I'm right about that!


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk

If John Blake is the type of CEO that he is being portrayed as being, 
much of this feedback will be geting to him.  I actually believe that he 
could show some leadership though, and as soon as practicable, tell us 
how the new company will stay committed to Ai Squared products.



There is nothing wrong with a profit motive driving this industry's 
consolidation.  How many of us know about the high costs of research and 
develoment, the long lag time between conceptulasing a piece of 
software, developing the code, testing the code, debugging, manual 
writing, sales and distribution?



By way of example: I have been ranting on for ages about the urgent need 
for Window-Eyes to have improved braille support.  We were told during 
this discussion that at last, Ai Squared will have access to braille 
specialists as part of the new arrangements.  Great - I say!  Like it or 
not, small, innovative companies struggle.  I am hopeful that with some 
scale, prices will drop, gbut they may relate to products that none of 
us have yet imagined.






Vaughan.


On 6/18/2016 6:18 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
I hear what people are saying, but that doesn't mean that we as 
Window-eyes users should just lie down and give up. If you value 
Window-eyes, then we need to say something.  If it does turn out that 
JAWS wins, then we can at least say we tried.



On 6/17/2016 1:45 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
Oh, Hmm, let's see, just for a second. Freedom Scientific's idea of a 
great

offer, JAWS and Magic student addition for $300 per year, "Using Federal
Quoata funds. They have never, and will not ever, consider the end-user.
Gw-micro/Ai Squared Window-eyes as long as you have a copy of the latest
version of Microsoft office.  Not to mansion before that the payment 
plan.

It's not AI-squared that I have a lack of confidence in, it's Freedom
Scientific.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:28 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Why are so many of you list members acting like the end has come.  I'm
looking forward to the future and hoping for the best in accessibility!
If you expect the worst, that's what you'll get, I'm expecting a 
positive

outcome and I hope that I'm right about that!


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk

freedom is to become unfreedom for it's competitors.
-- 
Curtis Delzer 

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:29:47 -0600
Bryan Peterson via Talk  wrote:

> But we know Greedom and how they usually operate.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 17, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
> >> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion
> >> will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark.  Oh,
> >> have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it
> >> after all this goes down.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what
> >>> happens. RJ
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
>  
>  I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as
>  the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen 
>  readers,
>  the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline.  The day may
>  yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts 
>  forever
>  and the deepest well runs dry.
>  
>  Alan
>  
>  Sent from my iPad Air
>  
>  On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
> > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very
> > heavy
> > indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
> > announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the
> > number
> > of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
> > VFO
> > has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
> > concentrate
> > on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
> > existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> > interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy 
> > of
> > JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be
> > repeated
> > again.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
> > driving
> > force will be good old fashioned money!
> > 
> > RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
> > 
> > Ivan Cribb
> > 
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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk

Not sure who started the thread with incorrect spelling, but it is David Wu, 
spelled W, U. And, you can find it here: 
http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast127-David_Wu.mp3. 
Best,
Marc

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 3:58 PM
To: Mike Rogers <harpm...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Hi:

Where can I find this David Woo interview.
Kevin Huber
On 6/17/16, Mike Rogers via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> Yes, please!  Thes speculations are filling up my inbox and nobody can do
> anything, at this time.
>
> 
>
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> www.woodeneyemusic.com
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:40:46 -0400
> Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
>> To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: David Woo interview
>>
>> Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
>> > We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt
>> > fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the
>> > shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck
>> > trying to use it after all this goes down.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk
>> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see
>> >> what happens. RJ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage
>> >>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free
>> >>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to
>> >>> decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once
>> >>> said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alan
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
>> >>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is
>> >>>> very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David
>> >>>> will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious
>> >>>> consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared
>> >>>> to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
>> >>>> VFO
>> >>>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
>> >>>> concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more
>> >>>> customersBut
>> >>>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their
>> >>>> best
>> >>>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny
>> >>>> copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal
>> >>>> never to be repeated again.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
>> >>>> driving force will be good old fashioned money!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ivan Cribb
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ___
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>> >>>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
>> >>>>
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk

Hi:

Where can I find this David Woo interview.
Kevin Huber
On 6/17/16, Mike Rogers via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> Yes, please!  Thes speculations are filling up my inbox and nobody can do
> anything, at this time.
>
> 
>
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> www.woodeneyemusic.com
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:40:46 -0400
> Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
>> To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: David Woo interview
>>
>> Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
>> > We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt
>> > fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the
>> > shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck
>> > trying to use it after all this goes down.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk
>> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see
>> >> what happens. RJ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage
>> >>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free
>> >>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to
>> >>> decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once
>> >>> said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alan
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
>> >>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is
>> >>>> very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David
>> >>>> will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious
>> >>>> consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared
>> >>>> to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
>> >>>> VFO
>> >>>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
>> >>>> concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more
>> >>>> customersBut
>> >>>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their
>> >>>> best
>> >>>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny
>> >>>> copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal
>> >>>> never to be repeated again.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
>> >>>> driving force will be good old fashioned money!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ivan Cribb
>> >>>>
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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread george basioli via Talk

Why don't you all stop this shit and if you want to continue someone start a
email list to talk about the merge so we can get back to questions on using
win eyes.
This is getting to the point where I have to mute my phone from all this
bull shit, and to bad for the language dbut this is what it is now after a
few day of all this crap
Get a life, job, or something els to ocupie your time better yet get off the
list and go do something about it.

Your all talk and no action get a clue

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gbmagoo=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:27
To: kenny Peyatt jr. <p.wildcat1...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

That would be the most unexpected thing in the assistive technology since
the screen reader was invented.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:20 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> What if it is jaws that they decide not to further develop, and 
> window-eyes continues getting developed?
> Kenny Peyatt jr. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+p.wildcat1234=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ivan Cribb via Talk
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:28 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: David Woo interview
> 
> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very 
> heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be 
> gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration 
> (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of 
> Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther 
> development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which,
incidentallyhas more customersBut
> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy 
> of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be 
> repeated again.
> 
> 
> 
> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
> driving force will be good old fashioned money!
> 
> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
> 
> Ivan Cribb
> 
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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bill Tillery via Talk

Here, Here,  I agree.  Let it rest for the next six months anyway!

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
To: 'Chris Skarstad' <rascal0...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

More to the point all you that think you know it all why are you wasting
time posting comments on list why aren't you solving the problem?  I mean
you know it all!  You have all the answers!!  Yes being sarcastic.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:32 PM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

I do rather think that JAWS will still be developed, as will Window-eyes.
But things with JAWS haven't exactly been revolutionary of late. Most of the
updates and improovements involve toys.  Window-eyes may lack some of the
features, but it's more stable.




On 6/17/2016 2:27 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> That would be the most unexpected thing in the assistive technology since
the screen reader was invented.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:20 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>
>> What if it is jaws that they decide not to further develop, and 
>> window-eyes continues getting developed?
>> Kenny Peyatt jr.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+p.wildcat1234=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Ivan Cribb via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:28 AM
>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: David Woo interview
>>
>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is 
>> very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will 
>> be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration 
>> (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of 
>> Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther 
>> development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which,
incidentallyhas more customersBut
>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny 
>> copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never 
>> to be repeated again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
>> driving force will be good old fashioned money!
>>
>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>>
>> Ivan Cribb
>>
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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Dennis Long via Talk

More to the point all you that think you know it all why are you wasting
time posting comments on list why aren't you solving the problem?  I mean
you know it all!  You have all the answers!!  Yes being sarcastic.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:32 PM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

I do rather think that JAWS will still be developed, as will Window-eyes.
But things with JAWS haven't exactly been revolutionary of late. Most of the
updates and improovements involve toys.  Window-eyes may lack some of the
features, but it's more stable.




On 6/17/2016 2:27 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> That would be the most unexpected thing in the assistive technology since
the screen reader was invented.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:20 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>
>> What if it is jaws that they decide not to further develop, and 
>> window-eyes continues getting developed?
>> Kenny Peyatt jr.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+p.wildcat1234=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Ivan Cribb via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:28 AM
>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: David Woo interview
>>
>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is 
>> very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will 
>> be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration 
>> (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of 
>> Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther 
>> development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which,
incidentallyhas more customersBut
>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny 
>> copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never 
>> to be repeated again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
>> driving force will be good old fashioned money!
>>
>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>>
>> Ivan Cribb
>>
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk

I do rather think that JAWS will still be developed, as will 
Window-eyes.  But things with JAWS haven't exactly been revolutionary of 
late. Most of the updates and improovements involve toys.  Window-eyes 
may lack some of the features, but it's more stable.





On 6/17/2016 2:27 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

That would be the most unexpected thing in the assistive technology since the 
screen reader was invented.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:20 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

What if it is jaws that they decide not to further develop, and window-eyes
continues getting developed?
Kenny Peyatt jr.

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Behalf Of Ivan Cribb via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:28 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: David Woo interview

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk

But we know Greedom and how they usually operate.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
>> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion
>> will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark.  Oh,
>> have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it
>> after all this goes down.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what
>>> happens. RJ
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
 
 I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as
 the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers,
 the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline.  The day may
 yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever
 and the deepest well runs dry.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
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> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very
> heavy
> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the
> number
> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
> VFO
> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
> concentrate
> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be
> repeated
> again.
> 
> 
> 
> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
> driving
> force will be good old fashioned money!
> 
> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
> 
> Ivan Cribb
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk

That would be the most unexpected thing in the assistive technology since the 
screen reader was invented.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:20 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> What if it is jaws that they decide not to further develop, and window-eyes
> continues getting developed? 
> Kenny Peyatt jr. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+p.wildcat1234=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Ivan Cribb via Talk
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:28 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: David Woo interview
> 
> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
> again.
> 
> 
> 
> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
> force will be good old fashioned money!
> 
> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
> 
> Ivan Cribb
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk

I hear what people are saying, but that doesn't mean that we as 
Window-eyes users should just lie down and give up. If you value 
Window-eyes, then we need to say something.  If it does turn out that 
JAWS wins, then we can at least say we tried.



On 6/17/2016 1:45 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

Oh, Hmm, let's see, just for a second. Freedom Scientific's idea of a great
offer, JAWS and Magic student addition for $300 per year, "Using Federal
Quoata funds. They have never, and will not ever, consider the end-user.
Gw-micro/Ai Squared Window-eyes as long as you have a copy of the latest
version of Microsoft office.  Not to mansion before that the payment plan.
It's not AI-squared that I have a lack of confidence in, it's Freedom
Scientific.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:28 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Why are so many of you list members acting like the end has come.  I'm
looking forward to the future and hoping for the best in accessibility!
If you expect the worst, that's what you'll get, I'm expecting a positive
outcome and I hope that I'm right about that!


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bill Tillery via Talk

Yes, thank you Chris,

I am almost ready to unsubscribe and yet I need the list for many other
reasons.

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On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 12:35 PM
To: Reeva Webb <jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!



On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion
> will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark.  Oh,
> have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use
it
> after all this goes down.
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what
>> happens. RJ
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as
>>> the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen
readers,
>>> the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline.  The day
may
>>> yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts
forever
>>> and the deepest well runs dry.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
>>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very
>>>> heavy
>>>> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
>>>> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the
>>>> number
>>>> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
>>>> VFO
>>>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
>>>> concentrate
>>>> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
>>>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
>>>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy
of
>>>> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be
>>>> repeated
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
>>>> driving
>>>> force will be good old fashioned money!
>>>>
>>>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>>>>
>>>> Ivan Cribb
>>>>
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Mike Rogers via Talk

Yes, please!  Thes speculations are filling up my inbox and nobody can do 
anything, at this time.



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On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:40:46 -0400
Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> I agree 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
> To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: David Woo interview
> 
> Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
> > We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt 
> > fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the 
> > shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck 
> > trying to use it after all this goes down.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see 
> >> what happens. RJ
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
> >>
> >>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage 
> >>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free 
> >>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to 
> >>> decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once 
> >>> said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad Air
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
> >>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is 
> >>>> very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David 
> >>>> will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious 
> >>>> consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared 
> >>>> to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
> >>>> VFO
> >>>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and 
> >>>> concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more 
> >>>> customersBut
> >>>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> >>>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny 
> >>>> copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal 
> >>>> never to be repeated again.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
> >>>> driving force will be good old fashioned money!
> >>>>
> >>>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
> >>>>
> >>>> Ivan Cribb
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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk

Oh, Hmm, let's see, just for a second. Freedom Scientific's idea of a great
offer, JAWS and Magic student addition for $300 per year, "Using Federal
Quoata funds. They have never, and will not ever, consider the end-user.
Gw-micro/Ai Squared Window-eyes as long as you have a copy of the latest
version of Microsoft office.  Not to mansion before that the payment plan.
It's not AI-squared that I have a lack of confidence in, it's Freedom
Scientific.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




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Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:28 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Why are so many of you list members acting like the end has come.  I'm
looking forward to the future and hoping for the best in accessibility!  
If you expect the worst, that's what you'll get, I'm expecting a positive
outcome and I hope that I'm right about that!


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk

Me too.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM
To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

I agree 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!



On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt 
> fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the 
> shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck 
> trying to use it after all this goes down.
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see 
>> what happens. RJ
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage 
>>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free 
>>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to 
>>> decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once 
>>> said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
>>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is 
>>>> very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David 
>>>> will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious 
>>>> consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared 
>>>> to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
>>>> VFO
>>>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and 
>>>> concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more 
>>>> customersBut
>>>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
>>>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny 
>>>> copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal 
>>>> never to be repeated again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
>>>> driving force will be good old fashioned money!
>>>>
>>>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>>>>
>>>> Ivan Cribb
>>>>
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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Dennis Long via Talk

I agree 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!



On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt 
> fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the 
> shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck 
> trying to use it after all this goes down.
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see 
>> what happens. RJ
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage 
>>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free 
>>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to 
>>> decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once 
>>> said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
>>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is 
>>>> very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David 
>>>> will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious 
>>>> consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared 
>>>> to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
>>>> VFO
>>>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and 
>>>> concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more 
>>>> customersBut
>>>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
>>>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny 
>>>> copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal 
>>>> never to be repeated again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
>>>> driving force will be good old fashioned money!
>>>>
>>>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>>>>
>>>> Ivan Cribb
>>>>
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk

Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness!

On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion
will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh,
have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it
after all this goes down.

On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk
wrote:

I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what
happens. RJ

On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:

I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as
the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers,
the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline. The day may
yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever
and the deepest well runs dry.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <

talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very
heavy
indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
announcing that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the
number
of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
concentrate
on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be
repeated
again.

Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
driving
force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk

I'm sure AI Squared appreciates the overwelming confidence people have 
in them.  Sarcasm is great.






On 6/17/2016 11:00 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

I would be very surprised if he has any position at all.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 17, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Loy via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I wonder what position that Doug will have in this new acquisition?
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
  To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:51 AM
  Subject: Re: David Woo interview


  But nobody knows!   Support Ai Squared all you can, and let VFO know how
  much you appreciate Window-eyes being around.

If none of us does, then it may happen. but again, nobody knows.  If
  you want Window-eyes to stick around, don't let it go without speaking
  up.





  On 6/17/2016 8:36 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
And that's exactly what I said would happen.

Sent from my iPhone


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I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk

Why are so many of you list members acting like the end has come.  I'm 
looking forward to the future and hoping for the best in accessibility!  
If you expect the worst, that's what you'll get, I'm expecting a 
positive outcome and I hope that I'm right about that!



Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk

Or a favorite voice? SOrry.

-Original Message- 
From: Reeva Webb via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:51 AM
To: RJ Sandefur ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion
will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark.  Oh,
have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it
after all this goes down.

On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what
happens. RJ

On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:

I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as
the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen 
readers,

the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline.  The day may
yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts 
forever

and the deepest well runs dry.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <

talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very
heavy
indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the
number
of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
concentrate
on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy 
of

JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be
repeated
again.

Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
driving
force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bill Tillery via Talk

Hi Chris,

Do you have the information for the contacts we need to approach for this
notification?  I, for one, will do certainly do all I can to make sure they
know the WE is still the best screen reader I have ever used.  Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:52 AM
To: Darrell Bowles <dgbow...@msn.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: David Woo interview

But nobody knows!   Support Ai Squared all you can, and let VFO know how 
much you appreciate Window-eyes being around.

  If none of us does, then it may happen. but again, nobody knows.  If 
you want Window-eyes to stick around, don't let it go without speaking
up.

On 6/17/2016 8:36 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> And that's exactly what I said would happen.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very
heavy
>> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
>> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the
number
>> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
VFO
>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
concentrate
>> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
>> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be
repeated
>> again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
driving
>> force will be good old fashioned money!
>>
>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>>
>> Ivan Cribb
>>
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Loy via Talk

I wonder what position that Doug will have in this new acquisition?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Skarstad via Talk 
  To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:51 AM
  Subject: Re: David Woo interview

  But nobody knows!   Support Ai Squared all you can, and let VFO know how 
  much you appreciate Window-eyes being around.

If none of us does, then it may happen. but again, nobody knows.  If 
  you want Window-eyes to stick around, don't let it go without speaking
  up.

  On 6/17/2016 8:36 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
  > And that's exactly what I said would happen.
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  >> On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very 
heavy
  >> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
  >> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the 
number
  >> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
  >> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
  >> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
  >> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
  >> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
  >> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
  >> again.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
  >> force will be good old fashioned money!
  >>
  >> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
  >>
  >> Ivan Cribb
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk

We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion
will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark.  Oh,
have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it
after all this goes down.



On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
wrote:

> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what
> happens. RJ
>
>
> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
>
>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as
>> the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers,
>> the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline.  The day may
>> yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever
>> and the deepest well runs dry.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very
>>> heavy
>>> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
>>> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the
>>> number
>>> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
>>> VFO
>>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
>>> concentrate
>>> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
>>> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
>>> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
>>> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be
>>> repeated
>>> again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
>>> driving
>>> force will be good old fashioned money!
>>>
>>> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>>>
>>> Ivan Cribb
>>>
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk

I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what 
happens. RJ



On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:

I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the 
paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the 
market for paid screen readers will continue to decline.  The day may yet come 
when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever and the 
deepest well runs dry.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk  
wrote:

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Alan Paganelli via Talk

I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the 
paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the 
market for paid screen readers will continue to decline.  The day may yet come 
when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever and the 
deepest well runs dry.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
> again.
> 
> 
> 
> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
> force will be good old fashioned money!
> 
> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
> 
> Ivan Cribb
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RE: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Dennis Long via Talk

Noone  knows for sure what will happen.  So just let it play out that's
about all you can do.  

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

None of this supprises me at all. AI used to be a Jaws user, until I tried
to build a website. I had a friend that was working with me to build it and
he was a WE user. WE blew Jaws away because there was something that just
couldn't be done with Jaws. I contacted Freedom about what I couldn't do
with Jaws and got a big run around.

-Original Message-
From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:36 AM
To: Ivan Cribb ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

And that's exactly what I said would happen.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very 
> heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be 
> gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration 
> (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of 
> Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther 
> development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which, 
> incidentallyhas more customersBut
> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy 
> of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be 
> repeated again.
>
>
>
> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
> driving
> force will be good old fashioned money!
>
> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
>
> Ivan Cribb
>
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Tony C via Talk

None of this supprises me at all. AI used to be a Jaws user, until I tried 
to build a website. I had a friend that was working with me to build it and 
he was a WE user. WE blew Jaws away because there was something that just 
couldn't be done with Jaws. I contacted Freedom about what I couldn't do 
with Jaws and got a big run around.


-Original Message- 
From: Darrell Bowles via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:36 AM
To: Ivan Cribb ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

And that's exactly what I said would happen.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very 
heavy

indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the 
number

of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and 
concentrate

on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be 
repeated

again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
driving

force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk

That's my biggest fear.

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> On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
> again.
> 
> 
> 
> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
> force will be good old fashioned money!
> 
> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
> 
> Ivan Cribb
> 
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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk

But nobody knows!   Support Ai Squared all you can, and let VFO know how 
much you appreciate Window-eyes being around.


 If none of us does, then it may happen. but again, nobody knows.  If 
you want Window-eyes to stick around, don't let it go without speaking

up.




On 6/17/2016 8:36 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

And that's exactly what I said would happen.

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On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk  
wrote:

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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Re: David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk

And that's exactly what I said would happen.

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> On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
> indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
> announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
> of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
> has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
> on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
> existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
> interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
> JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
> again.
> 
> 
> 
> Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
> force will be good old fashioned money!
> 
> RIP Winbdow-Eyes!
> 
> Ivan Cribb
> 
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David Woo interview

2016-06-17 Thread Ivan Cribb via Talk

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy
indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily
announcing  that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number
of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate
on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of
JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated
again.

 

Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving
force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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