Re: Does Jaws have . . . .
I read in a indow-eyes tutorial that tabbing beyond the options in the Navigation pane, takes you out of that field. Hadn't realised however that alt n wasn't just a WE keystroke. Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 > On 18 Jul 2017, at 7:49 pm, Tom Kingston via Talk > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > It may not make a sound when you're in another program. But when I download > something it reads the notification area just like Window-Eyes does and it > says "Alt-N." And Alt-N is an IE command to focus the notification area. I > then tab through the buttons just as I do with Window-Eyes. > Then it usually loses focus, which it seems to like to do. > Tom > > > On 7/18/2017 1:52 PM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote: > > No, there is no such a feature for the notification area [alt-n]. > > Jaws speaks out when tekst is in this area, but will not generate a > > sound as Window-Eyes does even when you are in an other program. > > > > Marten > > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:41:52 -0400 Tom Kingston via Talk > > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > > >> And regarding the Alt-N for the notification bar in IE? That's an IE > >> command. > >> Hth, > >> Tom > >> > >> > >> On 7/18/2017 7:31 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: > >>> I think all these functions and more are in JAWS. In particular, there > >>> are a huge number of settings pertaining to web browser operation. > >>> One way to get started is to press insert-H within a given program such > >>> as Word or a browser, and start reading. In many cases, these help > >>> windows act like web pages, with hyperlinks on the individual items. > >>> On the web, the Insert-Tab items are broken out onto insert-function > >>> keys for different types of items. You can also use insert-1 to go into > >>> keyboard learn mode, where in a given program the hotkeys you press will > >>> briefly describe their functions, just like in Window-Eyes. > >>> The closest thing to "read status line" or ctrl-insert-S is insert-PgDn. > >>> Read current line is insert-up-arrow. > >>> Read to end is insert-down-arrow. > >>> There is a lot to learn in JAWS, and your muscles have to be retrained > >>> in many cases. It's a pain, but it's probably worth it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD > >>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com > >>> -Original Message- From: CJ MAY via Talk > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:19 AM > >>> To: 'Dwayne McNutt' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > >>> Subject: RE: Does Jaws have . . . . > >>> > >>> Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Read page elements: insert e; > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Speak summary: control shift s; > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks > >>> spelling errors and more). > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different > >>> names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And > >>> lastly, do > >>> we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options > >>> etc. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hope someone can help. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief > >>> to > >>> be typing this back in good old Window-eyes! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Alison > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >>> > >>> For membership options, visit > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. > >>> > >>> For subscription options, visit > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>> List archives can be found at > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>> ___
Re: Does Jaws have . . . .
It may not make a sound when you're in another program. But when I download something it reads the notification area just like Window-Eyes does and it says "Alt-N." And Alt-N is an IE command to focus the notification area. I then tab through the buttons just as I do with Window-Eyes. Then it usually loses focus, which it seems to like to do. Tom On 7/18/2017 1:52 PM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote: > No, there is no such a feature for the notification area [alt-n]. > Jaws speaks out when tekst is in this area, but will not generate a > sound as Window-Eyes does even when you are in an other program. > > Marten > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:41:52 -0400 Tom Kingston via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > >> And regarding the Alt-N for the notification bar in IE? That's an IE command. >> Hth, >> Tom >> >> >> On 7/18/2017 7:31 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: >>> I think all these functions and more are in JAWS. In particular, there >>> are a huge number of settings pertaining to web browser operation. >>> One way to get started is to press insert-H within a given program such >>> as Word or a browser, and start reading. In many cases, these help >>> windows act like web pages, with hyperlinks on the individual items. >>> On the web, the Insert-Tab items are broken out onto insert-function >>> keys for different types of items. You can also use insert-1 to go into >>> keyboard learn mode, where in a given program the hotkeys you press will >>> briefly describe their functions, just like in Window-Eyes. >>> The closest thing to "read status line" or ctrl-insert-S is insert-PgDn. >>> Read current line is insert-up-arrow. >>> Read to end is insert-down-arrow. >>> There is a lot to learn in JAWS, and your muscles have to be retrained >>> in many cases. It's a pain, but it's probably worth it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD >>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com >>> -Original Message- From: CJ MAY via Talk >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:19 AM >>> To: 'Dwayne McNutt' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Does Jaws have . . . . >>> >>> Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been >>> >>> >>> >>> Read page elements: insert e; >>> >>> >>> >>> Speak summary: control shift s; >>> >>> >>> >>> Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks >>> spelling errors and more). >>> >>> >>> >>> I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different >>> names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And >>> lastly, do >>> we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options >>> etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope someone can help. >>> >>> >>> >>> My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief to >>> be typing this back in good old Window-eyes! >>> >>> >>> >>> Alison >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. >> For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Does Jaws have . . . .
Jaws does speak out options that I have not heard from Window-Eyes for a long time. If I hear something different, I typically will press alt-n just because it has become second nature to me to do so. Carol On 7/18/2017 1:52 PM, Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote: No, there is no such a feature for the notification area [alt-n]. Jaws speaks out when tekst is in this area, but will not generate a sound as Window-Eyes does even when you are in an other program. Marten On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:41:52 -0400 Tom Kingston via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: And regarding the Alt-N for the notification bar in IE? That's an IE command. Hth, Tom On 7/18/2017 7:31 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: I think all these functions and more are in JAWS. In particular, there are a huge number of settings pertaining to web browser operation. One way to get started is to press insert-H within a given program such as Word or a browser, and start reading. In many cases, these help windows act like web pages, with hyperlinks on the individual items. On the web, the Insert-Tab items are broken out onto insert-function keys for different types of items. You can also use insert-1 to go into keyboard learn mode, where in a given program the hotkeys you press will briefly describe their functions, just like in Window-Eyes. The closest thing to "read status line" or ctrl-insert-S is insert-PgDn. Read current line is insert-up-arrow. Read to end is insert-down-arrow. There is a lot to learn in JAWS, and your muscles have to be retrained in many cases. It's a pain, but it's probably worth it. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: CJ MAY via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:19 AM To: 'Dwayne McNutt' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Does Jaws have . . . . Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been Read page elements: insert e; Speak summary: control shift s; Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks spelling errors and more). I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And lastly, do we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options etc. Hope someone can help. My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief to be typing this back in good old Window-eyes! Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Does Jaws have . . . .
No, there is no such a feature for the notification area [alt-n]. Jaws speaks out when tekst is in this area, but will not generate a sound as Window-Eyes does even when you are in an other program. Marten On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:41:52 -0400 Tom Kingston via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > And regarding the Alt-N for the notification bar in IE? That's an IE command. > Hth, > Tom > > > On 7/18/2017 7:31 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: > > I think all these functions and more are in JAWS. In particular, there > > are a huge number of settings pertaining to web browser operation. > > One way to get started is to press insert-H within a given program such > > as Word or a browser, and start reading. In many cases, these help > > windows act like web pages, with hyperlinks on the individual items. > > On the web, the Insert-Tab items are broken out onto insert-function > > keys for different types of items. You can also use insert-1 to go into > > keyboard learn mode, where in a given program the hotkeys you press will > > briefly describe their functions, just like in Window-Eyes. > > The closest thing to "read status line" or ctrl-insert-S is insert-PgDn. > > Read current line is insert-up-arrow. > > Read to end is insert-down-arrow. > > There is a lot to learn in JAWS, and your muscles have to be retrained > > in many cases. It's a pain, but it's probably worth it. > > > > > > > > Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD > > http://lras.home.sprynet.com > > -Original Message----- From: CJ MAY via Talk > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:19 AM > > To: 'Dwayne McNutt' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: Does Jaws have . . . . > > > > Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been > > > > > > > > Read page elements: insert e; > > > > > > > > Speak summary: control shift s; > > > > > > > > Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks > > spelling errors and more). > > > > > > > > I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different > > names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And > > lastly, do > > we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options > > etc. > > > > > > > > Hope someone can help. > > > > > > > > My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief to > > be typing this back in good old Window-eyes! > > > > > > > > Alison > > > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. > > > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. > > > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Does Jaws have . . . .
And regarding the Alt-N for the notification bar in IE? That's an IE command. Hth, Tom On 7/18/2017 7:31 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: I think all these functions and more are in JAWS. In particular, there are a huge number of settings pertaining to web browser operation. One way to get started is to press insert-H within a given program such as Word or a browser, and start reading. In many cases, these help windows act like web pages, with hyperlinks on the individual items. On the web, the Insert-Tab items are broken out onto insert-function keys for different types of items. You can also use insert-1 to go into keyboard learn mode, where in a given program the hotkeys you press will briefly describe their functions, just like in Window-Eyes. The closest thing to "read status line" or ctrl-insert-S is insert-PgDn. Read current line is insert-up-arrow. Read to end is insert-down-arrow. There is a lot to learn in JAWS, and your muscles have to be retrained in many cases. It's a pain, but it's probably worth it. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: CJ MAY via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:19 AM To: 'Dwayne McNutt' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Does Jaws have . . . . Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been Read page elements: insert e; Speak summary: control shift s; Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks spelling errors and more). I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And lastly, do we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options etc. Hope someone can help. My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief to be typing this back in good old Window-eyes! Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Does Jaws have . . . .
I think all these functions and more are in JAWS. In particular, there are a huge number of settings pertaining to web browser operation. One way to get started is to press insert-H within a given program such as Word or a browser, and start reading. In many cases, these help windows act like web pages, with hyperlinks on the individual items. On the web, the Insert-Tab items are broken out onto insert-function keys for different types of items. You can also use insert-1 to go into keyboard learn mode, where in a given program the hotkeys you press will briefly describe their functions, just like in Window-Eyes. The closest thing to "read status line" or ctrl-insert-S is insert-PgDn. Read current line is insert-up-arrow. Read to end is insert-down-arrow. There is a lot to learn in JAWS, and your muscles have to be retrained in many cases. It's a pain, but it's probably worth it. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: CJ MAY via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:19 AM To: 'Dwayne McNutt' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Does Jaws have . . . . Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been Read page elements: insert e; Speak summary: control shift s; Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks spelling errors and more). I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And lastly, do we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options etc. Hope someone can help. My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief to be typing this back in good old Window-eyes! Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Does Jaws have . . . .
Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been Read page elements: insert e; Speak summary: control shift s; Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks spelling errors and more). I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And lastly, do we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options etc. Hope someone can help. My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief to be typing this back in good old Window-eyes! Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
