[talk-ph] OpenStreetMap Workshop at FEATI University Post-Report

2010-02-23 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, Here is my report of what transpired last March 20 at FEATI University: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/osm_workshop_feati Sorbi, thanks for inviting us. I, Maning, and Rally had fun! :-) So, are there other students out there who wants to us to give them something similar? Just

Re: [talk-ph] OpenStreetMap Workshop at FEATI University Post-Report

2010-02-23 Thread maning sambale
thanks seav for posting. You can get the slides here: http://www.slideshare.net/esambale/osm-for-sage-20100220 Use and re-purpose according to your own personality. I will post my pix later. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here is my

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Import of Korea from Yahoo

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
Jonas, Getting in touch with the user courteously is certainly the best start. Andrew Errington, CC'd, hosts talk-ko and may also be able to help. If first steps do not resolve, the OSMF Foundation's Data Working Group [1] can provide help. Most or all are members of this list anyway. Mike

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Oliver Kuehn (skobbler)
Apart from that, this is the version we would like to finalise on and which has had legal review. Please shout if you see any holes. Hi Michael, I wonder if there should not be a clarification that any content provided should (a) NOT contain material that is false, intentionally misleading, or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Mike Collinson wrote: - defining active contributor as a natural person. This serves the purpose of no bots. OPEN QUESTION: We are not sure about this one as this it excludes corporations or other legally organised entities. If they have multiple accounts for individual staff, it has

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-23 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, On 23 February 2010 05:10, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: To do area mapping without also doing the traditional OSM vector mapping of those roads just seems like low-grade vandalism to me.  Why would a mapper choose to say, I'm going to make a really detailed representation of

Re: [OSM-talk] I ordered my first personal camera so I can do 'photomapping' or 'geotagging'

2010-02-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Yesterday I ordered my first camera(Nikon Coolpix L19). Mostly with the purpose of taking photos while I have a gps along with me, to later geotag photos with josm and later use the pictures as sources for street names or Points of Interest. Does anyone have that camera? I was a bit

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-23 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:33 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 23 February 2010 17:30, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Perhaps they did, but they would be wrong. Because of hindsight? No, because ways aren't powerful enough to build complex data structures. Relations are

[OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Firstly thanks for the replies regarding a tile generator using the Mapnik OSM plugin - looks like there's a little bit of interest so I might start work on it. The other thing I have in mind to do is a POI collector for Android devices. I seem to remember there being an interest in this

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread Ciprian Talaba
I will definitely be interested in something like this. --Ciprian On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Firstly thanks for the replies regarding a tile generator using the Mapnik OSM plugin - looks like there's a little bit of interest so I might

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 00:36, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: The other thing I have in mind to do is a POI collector for Android devices. I seem to remember there being an interest in this before Christmas when the Mapzen collector for the iPhone was launched - and I've just

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 00:33, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: No, because ways aren't powerful enough to build complex data structures. This coming from someone using closed ways to describe what you are saying can't be done... :P If it turns out there's something in your design which really can't

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
2010/2/24 Tomáš Tichý t.ti...@post.cz: I have tried BTC mapper and it is almost unusable (doesn´t work without GPS signal, can´t place POI to another place than my location, weird and uneditable presets). It's being worked on at present, the current preset system didn't work out as well as we

Re: [OSM-talk] I ordered my first personal camera so I can do 'photomapping' or 'geotagging'

2010-02-23 Thread Andrew Gregory
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:18:38 +0800, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: I own a cell phone which can take pictures, but it doesn't store pictures in exif format. After much research over time it seems I couldn't even add exif by hand to the pictures I took with it.(with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
Just for POI collection there are already 2 or 3 applications BTC mapper Vespucci Vespucci has nice features but user interface is really complicated to use. can edit all tags, POI, ways. might be a good idea to improve this project instead just another POI collector On 23 Feb 2010, at 6:36 ,

[OSM-talk] How inaccurate was the mapnik distance/scale marker?

2010-02-23 Thread Dave F.
Hi There used to be a distance indicator graphic in the bottom left of the map. I believe it was removed because it was inaccurate due to the curvature of the Earth. I can understand the point at low zoom levels, but at say, zoom 13, just how inaccurate, percentage wise, is it? I found it

[OSM-talk] Semantic GIS site based on dbpedia, freebase, openstreetmaps, etc.

2010-02-23 Thread Paul Houle
Hello, We just launched a new site at http://ny-pictures.com/nyc/photo/ which is based on data from dbpedia and freebase and uses openstreetmaps for mapping. Behind it all is a 'semantic GIS' engine that combines the ability to represent traditional GIS with the ability to make

Re: [OSM-talk] I ordered my first personal camera so I can do 'photomapping' or 'geotagging'

2010-02-23 Thread Randy
Andrew Gregory wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:18:38 +0800, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: I own a cell phone which can take pictures, but it doesn't store pictures in exif format. After much research over time it seems I couldn't even add exif by hand to the pictures I took with

Re: [OSM-talk] Semantic GIS site based on dbpedia, freebase, openstreetmaps, etc.

2010-02-23 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
sounds very exciting! will check it out! On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote: Hello, We just launched a new site at http://ny-pictures.com/nyc/photo/ which is based on data from dbpedia and freebase and uses openstreetmaps for mapping. Behind it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Import of Korea from Yahoo

2010-02-23 Thread Jonas Stein
On 2010-02-19, Jonas Stein n...@jonasstein.de wrote: I just found a really large import: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/52816 It seems to be data from Yahoo (?) Can someone verify, that the data is imported legally? I could not find any information about that kind of gift from

[OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
I really liked something I read in The New New thing ( http://www.amazon.com/New-Thing-Silicon-Valley-Story/dp/0140296468/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_7 ) about Jim Clark ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Clark ) when the author Michael Lewis would ask about the past of his companies and stuff he'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Semantic GIS site based on dbpedia, freebase, openstreetmaps, etc.

2010-02-23 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote:    Behind it all is a 'semantic GIS' engine that combines the ability to represent traditional GIS with the ability to make assertions such as The Empire State Building is in Manhattan.  A particularly remarkable feature is

Re: [OSM-talk] I ordered my first personal camera so I can do 'photomapping' or 'geotagging'

2010-02-23 Thread edodd
My advice: set the camera clock in UTC (regardless of where you live; it's the One True Timezone :-) Before going out geotagging, set the clock, because if it's right you can either skip or have an easier time with the time sync issue. take a picture of the GPS receiver's time

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread Graham Jones
I have just got an Android phone too and was thinking of doing some work on simplifying the Vespucci user interface (I'm just learning how the UI system works on Android firststill can't get the camera to work properly...). I see the main improvements that would be useful are: - A 'one

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Dermot McNally
On 23 February 2010 20:17, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: An excellent and though-provoking post. It's rare to read something of that length on such touchy subjects and agree with so much of the content. If I had to pick a single most important theme as the central one, it's the whole area of

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I know matt takes it personally that the logo is anything other than perfect, and richard takes it personally that potlatch is crap for newbies... but that's just fact of the matter as I constantly hear from designers, newbies

[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_48c4sgs3d4http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_48c4sgs3d4 shows where we are at. We've one open question about natural person below that we would appreciate input on. Apart from that, this is the version we would like to finalise on and which has had

Re: [OSM-talk] How inaccurate was the mapnik distance/scale marker?

2010-02-23 Thread Egil Hjelmeland
I assume you are referring to the OpenLayers based slippy map at openstreetmap.org? The Openlayers 2.8 ScaleLine class has the the problem that it does not handle that the map-scale is not constant accoss the map. The slippy map uses mercators projection, where the scale increases with

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 06:17, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: In the middle we have a bunch of thought on how the site should or shouldn't be. Legitimate questions about putting the map or help up front, or using OSB or uservoice, or some new system, or something. But nobody can agree with

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:27 PM, John Smith wrote: On 24 February 2010 06:17, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: In the middle we have a bunch of thought on how the site should or shouldn't be. Legitimate questions about putting the map or help up front, or using OSB or uservoice, or some new

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 07:30, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: For the 3 millionth time, I'm not proposing uservoice for map bugs! :-) Well the same question goes for any proposal, but you keep mentioning them, but the question is still valid when you do start looking at solutions: how hard would

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I know matt takes it personally that the logo is anything other than perfect, and richard takes it personally that potlatch is crap for newbies... but that's just fact of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/02/10 21:35, SteveC wrote: oh sure - if you have any specific ones that annoy you I can try and explain why I was short. I think mainly it was just very annoying how TomH pissed all over it straight away which is actually pretty unlike him. Did you read the long blog post I wrote the

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 23/02/10 21:35, SteveC wrote: oh sure - if you have any specific ones that annoy you I can try and explain why I was short. I think mainly it was just very annoying how TomH pissed all over it straight away which is actually pretty unlike

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/02/10 21:46, SteveC wrote: On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: Did you read the long blog post I wrote the next morning where I attempted to be more constructive? No, sorry Tom, where was that? http://compton.nu/2010/02/redesigning-the-openstreetmap-web-site/ Tom --

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-23 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:27 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The only harm is if there is no way as well, or if people start joing roads to nature strips and making it a complete PITA to edit them independently of each other in future. I think this is important, and hasn't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
Thanks Oliver. We have a separate project to look at general terms of use of OSM and OSMF websites where this certainly is an issue. These Contributor Terms are strictly for the addition of geodata. We have not been advised it has been an issue but it will do no harm to check explicitly if

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:33 PM, John Smith wrote: On 24 February 2010 07:30, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: For the 3 millionth time, I'm not proposing uservoice for map bugs! :-) Well the same question goes for any proposal, but you keep mentioning them, but the question is still valid

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 23/02/10 21:46, SteveC wrote: On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: Did you read the long blog post I wrote the next morning where I attempted to be more constructive? No, sorry Tom, where was that?

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
Tom one other thing.. you mention things like the three-pane front page and other totally new concepts... I said to Andy that my personaly goal wasn't to try and answer such 'big' existential questions because it'd be too hard and could take forever. I figured just iterating the current

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
Thanks Dermot, you put it better than I did. On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Dermot McNally wrote: On 23 February 2010 20:17, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: An excellent and though-provoking post. It's rare to read something of that length on such touchy subjects and agree with so much of

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread Kevin Peat
I've also just got an android phone and have been trying the various map related apps. Just tried mapdroyd today which is closed source but has the useful feature of offering OSM maps in precompiled packages which I would certainly like (or at least to have a decent tile cache facility) as the 3G

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/02/10 21:16, Mike Collinson wrote: - British spelling licence noun used. (can anyone confirm that I am right in leaving verb license, sublicense as is, I am too long abroad). That is correct. In standard (British :-) English, licence is the noun and license is the verb. - defining

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I know matt takes it personally that the logo is anything other than perfect, and richard takes it personally that potlatch is crap for newbies... but that's just fact of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/02/10 22:12, SteveC wrote: As you can see from uservoice, things you highlight like routing are very important to people out there. You might also have seen the misconception in blog posts back and forth last week with GIS guys that they thought OSM was simply unroutable because we

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 08:22, Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com wrote: Just tried mapdroyd today which is closed source but has the useful feature of offering OSM maps in precompiled packages which I would certainly like (or at least to have a decent tile cache facility) as the 3G coverage is pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 07:54, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: The outstanding question here is whether a relation should be used to relate the way to the corresponding area. This is exactly the kind of thing relations were designed to be, a grouping mechanism of objects that are related.

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
Oh I totally agree. I wouldn't suggest we just do whatever is at the top of uservoice, not at all. If for no other reason that I'm the one paying for the work so I'm going to pick the stuff that coincides with a) being good ideas b) having support and c) I like... mostly there is an overlap

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 08:00, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: should be relatively easy with OSB or similar? That's my point, OSB is already integrated into JOSM and I realise uservoice has a few other things going for it, but integration into existing editors will make fixing bugs a lot simplier

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Steve, it would be easier for me if you could fragment your ideas more and then propose them in digestible 20-line blocks or so. And then distribute this over a few weeks instead of creating a flurry every half year. Do you have an uservoice page where I could submit that idea and let

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:17 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I know matt takes it personally that the logo is anything other than perfect, and richard takes it personally that potlatch is crap for newbies... but that's just fact of the matter as I constantly hear from designers, newbies

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Doerr
On 23/02/2010 20:17, SteveC wrote: [snip] What's uservoice? What's trac? What's PL1? -- Steve (novice OSM mapper) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
Hi Andy Thanks for your thoughtful comments... You don't seem to make any realistic suggestions for moving forward and just, instead, suggest potlatch is fine as is the front page. That doesn't seem to be in touch with the reality of every newbie who encounters the project, does it? Sure, you

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Doerr
On 23/02/2010 21:54, Roy Wallace wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:27 PM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The only harm is if there is no way as well, or if people start joing roads to nature strips and making it a complete PITA to edit them independently of each other in future.

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Steve, it would be easier for me if you could fragment your ideas more and then propose them in digestible 20-line blocks or so. And then distribute this over a few weeks instead of creating a flurry every half year. Do you have an

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 09:42, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: You don't seem to make any realistic suggestions for moving forward and just, instead, suggest potlatch is fine as is the front page. That doesn't seem to be in touch with the reality of every newbie who encounters the project, does

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Steve Doerr wrote: On 23/02/2010 20:17, SteveC wrote: [snip] What's uservoice? What's trac? What's PL1? :-) UserVoice is a neat feedback-as-a-service website which lets anyone put a feedback tab on their site and collect user views on what should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread SteveC
On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:01 PM, John Smith wrote: On 24 February 2010 09:42, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: You don't seem to make any realistic suggestions for moving forward and just, instead, suggest potlatch is fine as is the front page. That doesn't seem to be in touch with the reality

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenUsability

2010-02-23 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 23/02/2010 23:07, SteveC wrote: Let me know if you want that retracted or anyone else would like to be involved in anything we can accomplish with them. You can give my name, if you like. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward and back

2010-02-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I think everything is going all right; we're very busy accommodating all those people who come aboard and their new ideas and stuff, and I am pretty sure there will be a time of consolidation when things become a bit

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-02-23 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 23 Feb 2010, at 13:00 , Graham Jones wrote: I have just got an Android phone too and was thinking of doing some work on simplifying the Vespucci user interface (I'm just learning how the UI system works on Android firststill can't get the camera to work properly...). I see the

Re: [talk-au] Opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: For the benefit of those not on the tagging list there has been a solution to my problem of how to tag opening hours for things like third sunday of the month and even how to tag school zones.

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: Not too important yet, but it would certainly be good to get all walking tracks using route relations, and to be roughly consistent about what is IWN/NWN/RWN/LWN. I agree that we don't have international hiking routes (IWN) in Australia. I thought it intuitive that a

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder

2010-02-23 Thread Jeff Price
Great to see the hero and villian list. I can see the 'duplicate way' finder being the logical extension given the number of duplicate nodes I found to be the result of complete way/building/landuse duplication. Jeff. Re: [talk-au] Duplicate node finder Tuesday, 23 February 2010 4:11:06 PM

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: Not too important yet, but it would certainly be good to get all walking tracks using route relations, and to be roughly consistent about what is IWN/NWN/RWN/LWN. Some further thoughts on this: I forgot about the Australian Alps Walking Track, which is national,

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 19:46, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: But part of that track goes through wilderness areas, where track markers aren't permitted. Should we be even mapping those sections, thereby helping create an erosion/localised overuse threat? Are they marked on official maps,

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: On 23 February 2010 19:46, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: But part of that track goes through wilderness areas, where track markers aren't permitted. Should we be even mapping those sections, thereby helping create an erosion/localised overuse threat? Are they

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 20:09, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: That's very unlike the OSM situation, where the resolution allows an exactly identical path to be taken every time. If there is a lot of tree cover GPS will experince the same issue as well. If they're not confident, or

[talk-au] License to OSM

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
There has been a number of people reporting that they have been stoped and questioned and/or had a gun pointed at them due to their activities associated with OSM. Same thing happens to Geocachers and a solution they came up with was to produce license like documents to help explain their

Re: [talk-au] Layers for landuse (Was: tennis court land)

2010-02-23 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 17:16 +1100, Luke Woolley wrote: Mainly because I normally give landuses a -3 layer and for things that sit just above or directly on the ground I give the next layer up. Probably doesn't need it, but it will do no harm being there. Until someone decides to map

Re: [talk-au] local chapter stuff

2010-02-23 Thread Henk Hoff
Guys, It may be good to give also an update on the whole chapters thingy on this mailing list. First: the draft agreement you've been referring to is of the table. We had a good discussion within the OSMF board about the organizational structure of the Foundation. We concluded that this

Re: [talk-au] Opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Third sunday of the month, from 9 until 12 can be tagged as: opening_hours=Su[3] 09:00-12:00 Sunday markets on the 1st, 3rd and 5th Sundays of the month: opening_hours=Su[1,3,5] 06:00-12:00 These are good. Last

Re: [talk-au] Opening hours

2010-02-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 February 2010 07:42, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: That's a little strange. I would have thought instead opening_hours=Jul We[-1] 09:00-17:00. But as long as it's described clearly on the wiki, it's fine. It's common to PHP at least, as someone said on the tagging list, it's

[talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread edodd
I used my garmin oregon 550 in the car on the way to Canberra yesterday. Messed up a bit because i hadn't put a routable map on it, so had Navit on the netbook on the passengers seat to assist me. However I noted that the OSM map on the Garmin clearly shows the admin boundaries with names - I was

Re: [talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
ed...@billiau.net wrote: I used my garmin oregon 550 in the car on the way to Canberra yesterday. Messed up a bit because i hadn't put a routable map on it, so had Navit on the netbook on the passengers seat to assist me. However I noted that the OSM map on the Garmin clearly shows the admin

Re: [talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:57 AM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: I used my garmin oregon 550 in the car on the way to Canberra yesterday. Messed up a bit because i hadn't put a routable map on it, so had Navit on the netbook on the passengers seat to assist me. However I noted that the OSM map on

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:29 PM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I agree that we don't have international hiking routes (IWN) in Australia. I thought it intuitive that a national route (NWN) would cross a state border and be a significantly long walk.  Basically, that's the Bicentennial

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:46 PM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I forgot about the Australian Alps Walking Track, which is national, spanning significant distances in both NSW and Vic. Yeah, it goes from Walhalla to Canberra, about 650km. By comparison, one version of the Camino de

Re: [talk-au] admin boundaries on garmin

2010-02-23 Thread Greg Harper
I have found the admin boundaries (suburbs were giving me the most grief) are really misleading for navigation too, particularly on smaller screens as Liz mentioned. I prefer to grab the ones from here osmaustralia.org as I don't have time to build my own. So when he does fix it, it will be

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:49 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Speak for yourself, the Qld/NSW border along the coast is fairly heavily populated, although this is the exception not the rule I guess. Thank you for that insightful, helpful and utterly relevant contribution to

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-23 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: I think a little intuition can be a very dangerous thing. Remember, the name national walking route is a UK term, reflecting a particular way of administering trails by their government. Essentially I think we can treat these four levels as just four levels of

Re: [Talk-br] Atualização do Status de Mapeamento da Cidade de São Paulo

2010-02-23 Thread Claudomiro Nascimento Junior
Legal Diogo, Poderíamos fazer um subprojeto, tipo centro extendido e acompanhar a porcentagem mensalmente, por exemplo. Vc tem uma estimativa desses números? 2010/2/23 Diogo diogownunes2...@yahoo.com.br: Olá Pessoal, Atualizei a wiki com algumas imagens com o status do mapeamento da cidade de

Re: [Talk-br] Digest Talk-br, volume 17, assunto 24

2010-02-23 Thread Fernando Caldas
Fala Vitor. Na época (em 2008) eu pedi o conteúdo (termos) desse contrato (na lista) mas ninguem retornou. Aqui no Brasil nem se fala. Me mantenho ativo na lista apenas para seguir o que sai de novidade, e quando sai o silêncio é total... parece uma caixa preta... é muito estranho. Recebí

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo Christoph, mich würde mal interessieren, wie Eure Motivation steht, Bugs in den Daten, die von Usern aus einer kommerziellen Anwendung wie skobbler gemeldet werden, zu beheben. Ich kann verstehen, dass Du das kritisch siehst. Ich selber wundere mich auch immer darueber, mit welcher

[Talk-de] FOSSGIS/OSM-Konferenz: Anmeldung noch bis 26.Februar möglich

2010-02-23 Thread Kai Behncke
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Neuigkeiten und Hintergründe zu Technologien des Geo-Webs / GIS-Applikationen mit Freier Software und Freien Daten werden vom 2.-5. März in Osnabrück präsentiert. Die größte deutschsprachige Anwenderkonferenz für Freie Geo-Informationssysteme und Freie Geodaten wird

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-23 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo 1248 (was ein bescheuerte Name, du solltest deine Eltern mal zur Rede stellen!). Am Montag 22 Februar 2010 20:05:29 schrieb 1248: 1) Werden auch die tags alt_name und loc_name ausgewertet? Von wem? Bei der Suchfunktion der OSM-Hauptsite (Nominatim): Ja. Beispiele:

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-23 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 22 Februar 2010 23:15:42 schrieb Christoph Winkler: Als Mapper kann man die Ergebnisse also nicht mal selber kostenfrei nutzen, sondern muß auch dafür zahlen [...] Nein, wieso denn? Wenn z.B. ein Hotel durch einen Skobbler-Nutzer berichtet wird und jemand trägt das daraufhin in OSM

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-23 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Dienstag 23 Februar 2010 11:14:29 schrieb Bernd Wurst: Am Montag 22 Februar 2010 23:15:42 schrieb Christoph Winkler: Als Mapper kann man die Ergebnisse also nicht mal selber kostenfrei nutzen, sondern muß auch dafür zahlen [...] Kurze Ergänzung noch. Deine Einschätzung ist in sofern

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-23 Thread Martin Czarkowski
Am 22.02.2010 23:40, schrieb Mirko Küster: Ganz hinten stehen beispielsweise so Einträge wie teilweise bei OSB Da ist ein Bäcker!. Da frage ich mich dann auch. Typ, du standest davor, hättest alles was man Eintragen kann notieren können, hast dir die Mühe gemacht das hier einzutragen. Warum zu

Re: [Talk-de] Apple User (was: Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?)

2010-02-23 Thread Christian Schmitt
Am 23.02.2010 um 11:14 schrieb Bernd Wurst: Dass man iPhone-User um alles schröpft was Ihnen zur Geldbörse rausquillt finde ich sehr amüsant und irgendwie begrüßenswert. Apple-User sind doch schon lange per Definition Leute, die es geil finden für sonst kostenlose Dinge zu

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-23 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Dienstag 23 Februar 2010 11:27:42 schrieb Martin Czarkowski: bin der gleichen Meinung, es dauert genauso lange den genannten Bäcker gleich in Potlatch bzw. JOSM einzutragen. Für einen Mapper ja, für (oBdA) meine Mutter definitiv nicht. Gruß, Bernd -- Wenn du eine helfende Hand brauchst -

Re: [Talk-de] Apple User (was: Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?)

2010-02-23 Thread Torsten Breda
Am 23. Februar 2010 11:42 schrieb Christian Schmitt schmittr...@yahoo.de: Am 23.02.2010 um 11:14 schrieb Bernd Wurst: Und natürlich ein _kostenloses_ Betriebssystem das ohne jeglichen Installationsaufwand (out of the box) läuft und mit dem man auch als Nicht-Nerd sofort arbeiten kann.

Re: [Talk-de] Tags in Abhängigkeit von der Zeit

2010-02-23 Thread Falk Zscheile
Am 22. Februar 2010 11:50 schrieb Lars Francke lars.fran...@gmail.com: Hallo, für einen Vortrag brauche ich die Entwicklung verschiedener Tags in Abhängigkeit von der Zeit, um diese dann grafisch darstellen zu können. bis wann bräuchtest Du die Daten denn? Bis Mitte März. Wo könnte

Re: [Talk-de] Apple User (was: Motivation zum Beheben vonBug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?)

2010-02-23 Thread Rolf Meyerhof
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: talk-de-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-de-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Im Auftrag von Christian Schmitt Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Februar 2010 11:45 An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Apple User (was: Motivation zum Beheben

Re: [Talk-de] Tags in Abhängigkeit von der Zeit

2010-02-23 Thread Lars Francke
Wo könnte ich mir diese Daten besorgen bzw. wie könnte ich sie gewinnen? Es gibt einen Export der gesamten Geschichte aller OSM-Elemente[1] den Du benutzen könntest. Problem daran ist, dass die Daten nicht in chronologischer Reihenfolge sind sondern erst nach Elementen sortiert (Nodes, Ways

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-23 Thread Martin Czarkowski
Am 23.02.2010 11:44, schrieb Bernd Wurst: Am Dienstag 23 Februar 2010 11:27:42 schrieb Martin Czarkowski: bin der gleichen Meinung, es dauert genauso lange den genannten Bäcker gleich in Potlatch bzw. JOSM einzutragen. Für einen Mapper ja, für (oBdA) meine Mutter definitiv nicht.

Re: [Talk-de] Apple User (was: Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?)

2010-02-23 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Dienstag 23 Februar 2010 11:42:13 schrieb Christian Schmitt: Kannst Du mir bitte nen Tipp geben wo ich einen Notebook-Akku kostenlos bekomme, der 7 Stunden durchhält ohne zwischendurch an die Ladestation zu müssen? (so wie bei meinem MacBook Pro)? [...] Und wo wir schon dabei sind:

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen von kommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-23 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Dienstag 23 Februar 2010 12:51:22 schrieb Martin Czarkowski: Du wirst mir doch nicht erzählen, dass wenn Deine Mutter OSB bedienen kann, sie die Kleinigkeit nicht per Potlatch einfügen wird können. OSB ist *ein* Klick an die richtige Stelle auf einer normal dargestellten Karte. Keine

[Talk-de] Tauchen

2010-02-23 Thread Dimitri Junker
Hallo, ich weiß, daß wir nicht für die Renderer mappen, aber gibt es irgendwelche Tags für Tauchbasen/Tauchplätze die auch in der Karte (Taho oder Mapnik) erscheinen? Gruß Dimitri ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Motivation zum Beheben von Bug-meldungen vonkommerziellen Verwertern der OSM Daten?!?

2010-02-23 Thread Mirko Küster
OSB ist *ein* Klick an die richtige Stelle auf einer normal dargestellten Karte. Keine Account-Registrierung, kein ruckeliges Flash, keine merkwürdig andersfarbigen Linien. Genau dafür ist OSB doch da. Wenn jemand Potlatch nutzt und versehentlich Dinge kaputt macht, kommt hier doch

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