Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user survey still open - more women needed

2017-09-06 Thread john whelan
Building on Frederick's comments we could do with something fairly solid. I would suggest Stats Canada have a lot of experience and and trusted. I hate to say it but there are countries such as the US where I wouldn't believe them if they told me my personal data would not be shared with other go

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user survey still open - more women needed

2017-09-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 09/06/17 16:51, navi wrote: > But what does that change? Well if nothing else, solid research could help base further discussions on facts instead of hand-wavy assumptions. All we currently say is "we need more women in OSM because somehow we're sure they would be mapping other things, or

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user survey still open - more women needed

2017-09-06 Thread navi
But what does that change? On 9/4/2017 12:32 PM, Zoe Gardner wrote: > Dear OpenStreetMappers > > A couple of weeks ago I launched an online survey aimed to collect > demographic data about OSM contributors for a research project (funded by the > University of Nottingham and the Engineering and

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
I have seen IRL a roundabout in the USA in which this approach was taken: The latest discussion I heard was whether to put larger concrete blocks on it, to further discourage people routing across it, or increase levels of driver training. If you're confident a fix can be coded up, pick your favou

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread James
Or just follow the same shape as border +/- say 1-4meters offset(keep it inside the polygon) On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Dave F wrote: > Sorry wanted to add this: > > With irregular shapes (crescent, for example) a check to see if the route > is within the boundary & insert an extra node if

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Dave F
Sorry wanted to add this: With irregular shapes (crescent, for example) a check to see if the route is within the boundary & insert an extra node if required maybe be a bit more work but not impossible. DaveF --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://ww

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Dave F
On 06/09/2017 12:33, James wrote: Not really, with a roundabout, you have a way you can follow. Where as an area, you'd calculate somewhat of the middle between the two edges to generate a path, as you can't just route on the boundary of the polygon as it might be unwalkable/doesnt make sense

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Dave F
Hi On 06/09/2017 12:27, Frederik Ramm wrote: If you only want to walk *around* the beach (or patch of grass) then with most routers that's simply a question of configuration ("allow walking on natural=beach", done). If the routers has the entrance node, they can navigate the perimeter & find

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-06 13:33 GMT+02:00 James : > Not really, with a roundabout, you have a way you can follow. Where as an > area, you'd calculate somewhat of the middle between the two edges to > generate a path, as you can't just route on the boundary of the polygon as > it might be unwalkable/doesnt make s

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread James
Not really, with a roundabout, you have a way you can follow. Where as an area, you'd calculate somewhat of the middle between the two edges to generate a path, as you can't just route on the boundary of the polygon as it might be unwalkable/doesnt make sense in reality On Sep 6, 2017 7:24 AM, "Da

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06.09.2017 13:21, Dave F wrote: > There appears to be a reluctance to develop this. 'It's not a part of > our plans at the moment' is the last response to my query. > I'm unsure why. To me, the coding to traverse the boundary of an area > would seem very similar to that used to navigate a r

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Dave F
On 29/08/2017 12:53, Philip Barnes wrote: This really needs routers to be able to route over areas, the same issue exists over large areas of grass such as found in parks or town squares. Yes. There appears to be a reluctance to develop this. 'It's not a part of our plans at the moment' is

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Warin
On 06-Sep-17 07:28 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-08-30 11:56 GMT+02:00 Richard >: On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:53:43PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > This really needs routers to be able to route over areas, the same issue exists over large areas of

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Richard
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 11:28:41AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2017-08-30 11:56 GMT+02:00 Richard : > > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:53:43PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > This really needs routers to be able to route over areas, the same issue > > exists over large areas of grass such

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

2017-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-08-30 11:56 GMT+02:00 Richard : > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:53:43PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > > This really needs routers to be able to route over areas, the same issue > exists over large areas of grass such as found in parks or town squares. > > in many parts of the world such areas ar