Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-12 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 19:29, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Yes - at least if no conflicting edits were > done later. > > Otherwise it may be necessary to copy > earlier text. > Wasn't able to simply revert the changes due to "other conflicting edits", so re-pasted previous data. Could somebody

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] rues en landuse residential

2020-09-12 Thread Philippe Verdy
Si ci, il y a bien des exemples où les landuse=residential ont été nommés explicitement après ce découpage en blocs ou lotissements. Mais à chaque fois en n'y incluant pas les rues bordées (seulement les voies privées). Je pense même que c'est un découpage qui veut différencier le parcellaire

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Tom Hughes via Talk-GB
If you think Bristol or Aberdeen are mad then try Norwich: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/172506 Again presumably due to Norwich's history as a port and therefore having control of the river. Tom On 12/09/2020 22:53, Russ Garrett wrote: Yeah, I assume what happened is that the City

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-09-12 23:53, Russ Garrett wrote: > Yeah, I assume what happened is that the City of Bristol ended up, at > some point, as a statutory port authority (which I think they were > until 1991), and somehow the boundary from that has remained as their > local authority boundary. But it's still

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Russ Garrett
Yeah, I assume what happened is that the City of Bristol ended up, at some point, as a statutory port authority (which I think they were until 1991), and somehow the boundary from that has remained as their local authority boundary. But it's still a fairly unique situation as there are many other

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Mark Goodge
On 12/09/2020 21:23, Russ Garrett wrote: I've foolishly now decided to try to get to the bottom of it - the beating of the bounds still doesn't explain why exactly it covers that area (although I'm impressed that the Lord Mayor managed to commandeer a warship to do so!) AIUI, it's because

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-09-12 22:23, Russ Garrett wrote: > Incidentally, the OSM wiki page for Wales claims that the sea boundary > between Wales and England is not well-defined: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wales#Boundary Then the wiki is wrong. The "Welsh Zone" was most recently defined by the: THE

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Mark Goodge
On 12/09/2020 21:11, Rob Nickerson wrote: "extremely stupid reasons" in this case relates to an very old tradition where the Lord Mayor of Bristol 'beats the bounds' of the city by rowing/sailing out to the islands. As a consequence a small wedge of the city of Bristol bounds lies within

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging of LEAs that changed in 2019

2020-09-12 Thread Colm Donoghue
The map of Holmpatrick LE district is different on https://www.townlands.ie/holmpatrick/ than the map on http://www.boundarycommittee.ie/Maps/Fingal%20LEA%20Report%20Map%202018.pdf The skerries arent included on the boundary commission map, but are on townlands/osm Which is correct? Colm Ar

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] rues en landuse residential

2020-09-12 Thread osm . sanspourriel
Le 12/09/2020 à 22:22, Marc Mongenet - marc.monge...@gmail.com a écrit : Si comme le pense Philippe c'est pour nommer les landuse, alors ce n'était pas nécessaire, ni même désirable, d'exclure les rues. Marc Mongenet j'avoue ne comprends pas car ça n'a pas été nommé non plus ! Comme Jérôme

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Russ Garrett
I've foolishly now decided to try to get to the bottom of it - the beating of the bounds still doesn't explain why exactly it covers that area (although I'm impressed that the Lord Mayor managed to commandeer a warship to do so!) Incidentally, the OSM wiki page for Wales claims that the sea

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] rues en landuse residential

2020-09-12 Thread Marc Mongenet
Bonjour Le sam. 12 sept. 2020 à 14:40, Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr a écrit : > > Je viens de tomber sur ça à La Ciotat : > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/433148353/history#map=18/43.17743/5.60195 > une emprise de rue en landuse=residential > > Tout le quartier est comme ça, je trouve ça

[Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Rob Nickerson
"extremely stupid reasons" in this case relates to an very old tradition where the Lord Mayor of Bristol 'beats the bounds' of the city by rowing/sailing out to the islands. As a consequence a small wedge of the city of Bristol bounds lies within Welsh water. You get a similar situation with

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Colin Smale
This anomaly gives rise to the situation that there is a triangle (more or less) of water near Flat Holm which is simultaneously within the jurisdiction of Wales and the City of Bristol. It probably only matters for things like fishing, as that was basically the reason to define clearly the

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples of good paid mapping?

2020-09-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
12 Sep 2020, 15:42 by frede...@remote.org: > Hi, > > On 9/11/20 23:57, Bryce Cogswell via talk wrote: > >> Exactly. When companies do it right nobody knows they’re doing it.  >> > > Except that - because they do it right - they will of course have > documented their work on the wiki. > Or it

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fondation OSM / nouveau membre, dernier jour aujourd'hui pour pouvoir votre en décembre

2020-09-12 Thread Denis Helfer
Le 12/09/2020 à 19:01, Vincent Bergeot a écrit : Bonjour, l'assemblée générale de la Fondation OpenStreetMap se déroulera le 12 décembre 2020. Et pour devenir un *nouveau* membre habité à voter pour les candidats au conseil d'administration de la fondation, il faut adhérer aujourd'hui,

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Russ Garrett
Oh wait, I remember now. This is correct for extremely stupid reasons relating to the boundaries of the county of Bristol including a large chunk of the Bristol Channel. I can confirm the boundary in OSM matches the one in OS Boundary Line. That relation could probably do with a note tag on it,

Re: [Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Russ Garrett
I'm pretty sure Flat Holm is part of Cardiff - Steep Holm is in England but it also isn't in Bristol as far as I know. There's definitely something weird going on with the boundaries there but it also looks like nothing has changed around there in a while. Curious. On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 18:39,

[Talk-GB] Flatholm Island Boundary Problem

2020-09-12 Thread Brian Prangle
This island, in the bristol Channel between Weston super Mare and Barry seems to be in two countries at once. It's on the Welsh side of the national boundary but also in South West England City of Bristol. This is either a map error with the Welsh boundary or a legal anomaly I don't know which.

[OSM-talk-fr] Fondation OSM / nouveau membre, dernier jour aujourd'hui pour pouvoir votre en décembre

2020-09-12 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Bonjour, l'assemblée générale de la Fondation OpenStreetMap se déroulera le 12 décembre 2020. Et pour devenir un *nouveau* membre habité à voter pour les candidats au conseil d'administration de la fondation, il faut adhérer aujourd'hui, jusqu'à minuit. Cette mesure avait été prise suite à

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] La proposition shadok : les pompes

2020-09-12 Thread François Lacombe
Merci Gad pour tes encouragements N'hésitez pas à compléter la section des exemples ou proposer des illustrations pour les valeurs qui n'en ont pas encore. Par exemple les pompes à vis, à aubes, injecteurs et autres éjecteurs à air comprimé. Bon weekend François Le mer. 9 sept. 2020 à 05:48,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] rues en landuse residential

2020-09-12 Thread Philippe Verdy
Je pense que l'auteur a voulu découper les zones résidentielles selon les des blocs lotis (afgin ensuite de pouvoir en nommer certains) et qu'il a ensuite rempli les trous laissés vides le long des rues qui les divisent. Cependant c'est une subdivision arbitraire: les landuse=residential ne sont

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples of good paid mapping?

2020-09-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 9/11/20 23:57, Bryce Cogswell via talk wrote: > Exactly. When companies do it right nobody knows they’re doing it.  Except that - because they do it right - they will of course have documented their work on the wiki. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ##

[OSM-talk-fr] rues en landuse residential

2020-09-12 Thread Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr
Bonjour, Je viens de tomber sur ça à La Ciotat : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/433148353/history#map=18/43.17743/5.60195 une emprise de rue en landuse=residential Tout le quartier est comme ça, je trouve ça assez lourd, et ça me semble même être un contresens puisque la zone

[OSM-talk-ie] Irish Pub preset

2020-09-12 Thread Colm Moore
Hi, It's good that it is disabled for Ireland. My inner tidiness freak wouldn't like relabelling 10,000 pubs. :) Colm --- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging of LEAs that changed in 2019

2020-09-12 Thread Colm Moore
Hi, I think Brian's approach is reasonable. I would make sure they are tagged with dates, even so far as adding the date to the name. Colm --- Never doubt that a small group of

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-09-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/09/2020 15:17, Mike Thompson wrote: I will thank Ron for the change and try to start a dialog with our DWG about AllTrails asking their users to contact the DWG directly with map errors. Yes - that'd be great. The wider issues in addition to their support process are that (1) lots

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: R: R: R: Edit automatici su nome strade

2020-09-12 Thread Fabio Bettani
Concordo con quanto espresso da Martin: un'informazione incompleta è infinitamente meglio di un'informazione errata. L'informazione incompleta ti dice già "ehi, sono incompleta", mentre quella errata è indistinguibile da una vera. E un nome di via errato su una mappa mi sembra davvero grave. Un

Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
12 Sep 2020, 03:41 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > > > > > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 20:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <> > talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> Sep 2, 2020, 06:06 by >> thesw...@gmail.com>> : >> >>> On 2/09/2020 10:38 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> Did a

[Talk-it] R: R: R: R: R: R: Edit automatici su nome strade

2020-09-12 Thread canfe
20 imprecisioni su 20 oggetti invece sì?? canfe -Messaggio originale- Da: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Inviato: sabato 12 settembre 2020 10:25 A: openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: R: R: Edit automatici su nome strade sent from a

Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: R: R: Edit automatici su nome strade

2020-09-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Sep 2020, at 10:21, canfe wrote: > > Ritengo che se ne peggiorano 5 ma se ne migliorano 95 la cosa è a vantaggio > di chi usa la mappa. direi decisamente di no. Un errore ogni 20 oggetti sarebbe gravissimo, renderebbe completamente inutilizzabile la mappa. Ciao

[Talk-it] R: R: R: R: Edit automatici su nome strade

2020-09-12 Thread canfe
Sicuramente per fare un lavoro ben fatto bisognerebbe controllarsi tutte le vie. Ma comunque non verrebbe fatto, come non vengono risolte le note che stanno lì da anni, gli errori, moltissimi invero, segnalato da OSMOSE e altri… Insomma a scapito di un 5% si perde il 95% di lavoro. Il discorso

[Talk-it] R: R: R: R: R: Edit automatici su nome strade

2020-09-12 Thread canfe
Ritengo che se ne peggiorano 5 ma se ne migliorano 95 la cosa è a vantaggio di chi usa la mappa. Cantone Ferruccio (canfe) Da: Simone Saviolo [mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com] Inviato: martedì 8 settembre 2020 08:51 A: openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] R: R: R: R: Edit