Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-21 Thread Neil Penman
. - Original Message - From: Neil Penman Sent: 10/22/13 12:10 PM To: Nick Hocking Subject: Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues Hi Nick, Yep thats a good idea to add the survey tag. Interestingly the ways did not not have a source tag up until jan 2013 however Steve91 added the source

Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-21 Thread Neil Penman
no issues with you reverting the changes I made to the intersection, as long as the traffic routing is consistent along the ways. Regards Steve. - Original Message - From: Neil Penman Sent: 10/22/13 12:10 PM To: Nick Hocking Subject: Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality

[talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-18 Thread Neil Penman
There used to be a view that Openstreetmap could produce higher quality maps through local knowledge so we could eliminate the sort of comical routing errors that would have people driving into rivers. Unfortunately the culture seems to have become that any accurate local mapping should be

Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-18 Thread Neil Penman
then either you should contact the previous mapper before changing it or you should get on your bike and head out to the site to verify that the satellite imagery is in fact correct. On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 11:58 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 19/10/13 11:20, Neil Penman wrote

Re: [talk-au] license change map

2010-11-21 Thread Neil Penman
I didn't see any intention to provoke in Nick's email just a statement of fact. No one would dispute that Liz has done some great mapping over the years and it would be fantastic if she kept her data in OSM. But if she and others are determined to pull their data out then I agree with Nick

Re: [talk-au] license change map

2010-11-20 Thread Neil Penman
Two years or 3 its not that important osm will recover.  Community based mapping is too important to be abandoned for reliance on commercial mapping organisations.  Its also a lot of fun which takes the edge off having to re-map areas.   I am however kind of surprised at the attitude by some

Re: [talk-au] license change map

2010-11-20 Thread Neil Penman
Wouldn't this problem be easier to manage if each CC-BY data source was kept in separate data store which is combined as a layer on the client or tile server? These layers could then be attributed when or if they are actually shown. This would also simplify the situation where data such

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

2010-10-27 Thread Neil Penman
-0700 (PDT) Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went.  Pub isn't where he put it, nor the Health Service and the pub is really called The Great Northern Hotel on the board

Re: [talk-au] Big WA trace #4

2010-10-26 Thread Neil Penman
Hi, Thats quite a lot of travelling.  I've traced in a very small part of the data south of Southern Cross.  Do you have information on road names, surface and classifications? I've provisionally used unclassified for the highway types.

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

2010-10-26 Thread Neil Penman
I could be wrong about this but  It looks to me like Rosscoe added the street names for Marree.  Most of the information in the changeset you referenced is for Coober Pedy.  As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

2010-10-26 Thread Neil Penman
Yes the Coober Pedy golf course is almost identical to the google maps representation.  Using google earth it does however seem to me that the golf course in that area (no grass of course) but the area marked on the maps only covers a small part of the total course, maybe the club house and

Re: [talk-au] cc-by not compatible with ODBL ?

2010-07-08 Thread Neil Penman
Useful as some govt or corporate contributed data may be the really valuable data is that contributed by individual mappers.  One of the things that set OSM apart from other maps was that although it might have had data missing, what was there was pretty accurate.  With the contribution of data

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Neil Penman
Sounds good.  Clear simple support for adding addresses would be especially useful.  This is probably the area that OSM is furthest behind other online maps and its not improving very quickly at the moment. --- On Tue, 8/6/10, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: From: Ross Scanlon

Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect

2010-06-07 Thread Neil Penman
Only the vast majority of these were not sourced from Nearmap (except in some of the country areas not previously covered by Yahoo).  They may have been updated by somebody using nearmap imagery, mostly trivial changes, but they would have been originally created via survey or from Yahoo.

Re: [talk-au] Help with relations

2010-03-29 Thread Neil Penman
Cycling 600 odd kilometers to add a route to openstreetmaps, absolutely fantastic, you have made my day. Are you using JOSM or Potlatch.  In JOSM adding ways to a relation is nothing to worry about, you simply open the relation for editing.  Select the way(s) you want to add and then click on

[talk-au] Coastline Broken near Melbourne

2010-03-21 Thread Neil Penman
Quite a bit of coastline has been set in the wrong direction around Melbourne causing some flooding.  ABS boundary data has been used without setting the direction correctly.  I think I may have fixed the segments around the norther half of WesternPort bay but there may be others. Regards

Re: [talk-au] more broken boundaries

2010-03-05 Thread Neil Penman
It would be useful to have access to a layer showing boundaries sourced externally as they were when originally loaded. That way the current boundary state can always be compared with the original. However the below email is a bit cryptic for me.  How are boundaries getting broken?  One of the

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] Melbourne meet

2009-11-08 Thread Neil Penman
I could make drinks on thursday 19th of November.  Cheers Neil --- On Sat, 7/11/09, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] Melbourne meet To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received:

Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-14 Thread Neil Penman
I got whacked on the back of the head while mapping at the weekend.  I was just writing down the name of a park in Glenroy when it hit me.  At first I thought it was one of the locals so it was a bit of a relief to see the magpie fly off. Unfortunately i wasn't on my bike so no helmet, lots of

Re: [OSM-talk] Africa Road data import

2009-04-23 Thread Neil Penman
Hi Robert, Looks good.  Where did the UN agencies get their data from?  Did all this data originate from within the UN agencies through GPS traces or did they source it from somewhere else? Regards Neil --- On Thu, 23/4/09, Robert Soden robert.so...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Soden

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Gaza appeal

2009-01-05 Thread Neil Penman
Hi Mikel, I made a couple of changes as per the 2005 CIA map. Not sure if they reflect the situation on the ground. 1) Named the north south road Salahadeen Road 2) Moved this road to the East to reflect its path on the CIA map. Google maps shows a road following this path, however it

Re: [talk-au] Geelong problems

2008-12-11 Thread Neil Penman
I still get hundreds of overlapping ways when I run the JOSM validator but most of them seem to be roads-railways-bike paths. Its hard to tell whether or not there is a bridge in these cases so I'm tempted to leave them. There are a few road overlapping roads cases which are hard to pick as

Re: [talk-au] place

2008-12-03 Thread Neil Penman
I don't have a problem with subjective and I think maybe we should use some of Liz's criteria. One of the great things about OSM is that it doesn't just reflect what the government believes should be the situation as do the maps from PSMA. I think there is merit in basing the significance of

Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Penman
. Any printed map of the town, should in my opinion show the street as Baker Street not Midland Highway Regards Neil From: Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Neil Penman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, 1 December, 2008 9:41:28 PM Subject

Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Penman
Thanks Matt, Ben, my eyes must be failing me. This approach so far seems the best although it is a bit of a compromise. Regards Neil From: Ben Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008 6:24:03 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Penman
a route. Regards Neil From: Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Neil Penman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, 1 December, 2008 10:34:34 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads When routing over a long distance, you probably want

[talk-au] Disappearing Capital City Trail

2008-10-18 Thread Neil Penman
Rushall railway station missing. Neil Penman __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [talk-au] Disappearing Capital City Trail

2008-10-18 Thread Neil Penman
they will have to be added again manually. On 19/10/2008, at 9:51 AM, Neil Penman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Melbourne capital city trail disappeared sometime in the last week. This was the relation that was used by the cycle map. Anybody know what happened to it? http

Re: [talk-au] Where is commonwealth place

2008-09-23 Thread Neil Penman
Hi Nick, Your reasoning seems good, Parkes Place it is. I previously added Bowen Place into the map. As I was on foot and didn't fancy walking down there, I made the executive decision to label it Bowen Place while it ran alongside the NGA and then allow the road to revert to Bowen Drive when

[talk-au] Where is commonwealth place in Canberra

2008-09-21 Thread Neil Penman
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Re: [talk-au] Where is commonwealth place in Canberra

2008-09-21 Thread Neil Penman
Hi Nick, You are right there are a lot of streets named Parkes Place around that local, I guess it saves confusion in a Naked Vicar kind of way. I believe I saw two signs to Commonwealth Place, both looking like road signs at either end of the loop that runs from King Edward Terrace down to

Re: [talk-au] Exact location for POI?

2008-06-10 Thread Neil Penman
What device are you using? With Garmin's such as the 60Csx the waypoints are not written to the GPX file. However you can use gpsbabel to get a file containing the waypoints off the device. Note this is a separate file but you can load it into JOSM as another layer to get the exact position

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Blue tiles tagged Unknown Type in Osmarender

2008-05-22 Thread Neil Penman
with these tiles. Neil Penman wrote: There are large parts of the earth, as represented by Osmarender, that are coloured blue and labeled Unknown Type. These include Finland, the Baltics, a large area north of India up to central Russia, the periphery of the US, a slice of Asia from China

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water]

2008-04-28 Thread Neil Penman
Is there a history to the flooding of large land masses at high zoom? Timor and Indonesian archipelago also disappear under water when you try and get too close. Was this always the case? I've added the coastline for Timor in now so hopefully that will fix this particular problem . Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Indonesian coastline: was [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water]

2008-04-28 Thread Neil Penman
Thanks David, This would seem to be a high priority activity. I don't think it is possible for anyone to start any mapping in these areas until the coastline has been added. Regards Neil David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Neil Penman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: talk

Re: [OSM-talk] How to import shapefile into OSM

2008-02-05 Thread Neil Penman
Hi Mikel, I've added some information on the Sudan one time upload to the import page. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Import Regards Neil Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all

[OSM-talk] Low zoom render requests for the Sudan

2008-01-30 Thread Neil Penman
not sure if I can generate tiles for zoom level 6 at the moment. It looks like I can only generate down to zoom level 8 using ./tilesGen.pl xy 151 118 8 (etc). Can I do the same at zoom level 6? Regards Neil Penman

Re: [OSM-talk] Low zoom render requests for the Sudan

2008-01-30 Thread Neil Penman
Thanks Artem, 80n, The bounding box would be: 27, 2.5, 37, 18 Min Long, Min lat, Max Long, Max Lat Regards Neil Artem Pavlenko wrote: Hi Neil, Unfortunately the Mapnik data is only half there (this week) and doesn't render at all at zoom level 6 and below. These are all long highways,

Re: [OSM-talk] Low zoom render requests for the Sudan

2008-01-30 Thread Neil Penman
Absolutely, thanks Artem. It will be good to see what it looks like. Regards Neil Artem Pavlenko wrote: On 30 Jan 2008, at 22:16, Rob Reid wrote: Neil Penman wrote the following on 31/01/2008 02:07: I've been loading routes provided by the United Nations for the Southern Sudan