Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[sorry, just noticed this one] Lennard wrote: the editor can hide all nodes with a certain tag Potlatch doesn't do it, but it seems it's a feature just waiting for a developer. Potlatch can do it fairly trivially; just give it a MapCSS stylesheet that doesn't render said tag. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/08/11 07:37, Russ Nelson wrote: It should go on http://openairspace.org, which would be edited using JOSM, with mapnik tiles as a background layer. The only real disadvantage is that there would be no database-level connection between the end of the runway and the beginning of the

[OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, we have this recurring topic in various parts of OSM - airspace mapping. I'm strictly against it. (For those not familiar with airspace, here's an example of a VFR airspace map: http://www.rc-network.de/magazin/artikel_02/art_02-0001/ICAO-Karte-Ausschnitt-Bild2.jpg) My arguments

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Tom Hughes
On 07/06/11 08:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you share my view. Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? +100 Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Lester Caine
Tom Hughes wrote: But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you share my view. Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? +100 Perfect example of something that should be possible to implement as a completely separate

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Martijn van Exel
Frederik, On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi,   we have this recurring topic in various parts of OSM - airspace mapping. I'm strictly against it. [...] But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 09:41:29AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you share my view. Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? Or do you think that airspace should have a place in OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Andreas Perstinger
On 2011-06-07 09:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: ... Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? I fully agree with all of your points. Bye, Andreas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Tom Hughes
On 07/06/11 11:15, Ed Avis wrote: I think the important question is whether mapping airspace causes any harm to people who don't care about airspace. I believe Frederik covered that when he mentioned the problems of having lots of objects criss-crossing areas that people are trying to work

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:15:59 + (UTC), Ed Avis wrote: I think the important question is whether mapping airspace causes any harm to people who don't care about airspace. If not, best to let the people who are interested get on with it, however misguided they may be. IMHO this is already

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Ed Avis
Tom Hughes tom at compton.nu writes: I think the important question is whether mapping airspace causes any harm to people who don't care about airspace. I believe Frederik covered that when he mentioned the problems of having lots of objects criss-crossing areas that people are trying to work

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Tom Hughes
On 07/06/11 11:46, Ed Avis wrote: However, I would suggest that this is not a particularly hard problem to solve; the editor can hide all nodes with a certain tag or put them in a different layer. Currently, available editors don't do that. The question is whether to forbid tagging airspace

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Lennard
However, I would suggest that this is not a particularly hard problem to solve; the editor can hide all nodes with a certain tag or put them in a different layer. Currently, available editors don't do that. JOSM does that. Particularly well, too. Have a look at the Filter stuff. Can't speak

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Mike N
On 6/7/2011 7:04 AM, Lennard wrote: However, I would suggest that this is not a particularly hard problem to solve; the editor can hide all nodes with a certain tag or put them in a different layer. Currently, available editors don't do that. JOSM does that. Particularly well, too. Have a

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:   we have this recurring topic in various parts of OSM - airspace mapping. I'm strictly against it. I'm not 100% for it, and my feeling when reading this mail was that you are too categorically against this type of

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: 4. 99% of Airspace is of almost no significance to non-pilots. Arguments like one would like to know if the house one intends to buy is within some kind of airspace are fantasy. I agree with all the rest. I would say here

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 7 June 2011 13:58, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: The best long term solution to this, and other problems, would be to have better facilities for creating and integrating overlays. Just like Wikipedia solved some of its scoping problems by telling people to stick it all on Wikia,

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/7 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: Perfect example of something that should be possible to implement as a completely separate database, but which can overlay any other OSM data? +1 cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Airspace Co.

2011-06-07 Thread Russ Nelson
Tom Hughes writes: On 07/06/11 08:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: But before I do all that, I would like to hear from the community at large - you - whether you share my view. Do you agree that airspace should be elsewhere but not in OSM? +100 It should go on http://openairspace.org,