Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-08 10:26 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen : > Making a relation for each concession greatly improves maintainability. > You only have to load one relation in JOSM to get all lines and work from > there. > I would be really cross if someone decides to delete those relations :P >

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 09:44, Jo wrote: The way I do it (and in no way am I saying it is the only way or the correct way to do it, but it seems to hold up fine) is make one relation for each seperate destination (usually two: a->b and b->a, sometimes 4: a->c->b, a->d->b, b->c->a and b->d->a) and group

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Jo
2015-10-08 9:39 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2015-10-08 4:12 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow : > >> If the bus travels over the same way going two different directions, is >> the way added twice to the relationship, which means ignoring the JOSM >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Jo
> Where is this master-master documented? I think some may shoot it >> down, calling it a category. I use the operator and network tags to >> group 'concessions', although here in Belgium they correspond to the >> provinces. >> > > It is not documented. > In the Netherlands we have at present 35

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-08 4:12 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow : > If the bus travels over the same way going two different directions, is > the way added twice to the relationship, which means ignoring the JOSM > warning message? Or is the way only entered once with just no > forward/backward

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 10:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-10-08 10:26 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen : Making a relation for each concession greatly improves maintainability. You only have to load one relation in JOSM to get all lines and work from there. I would be really cross if someone

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Jo
2015-10-08 17:37 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow : > Looks like I need to find a different route, something easier. What I > picked looked easy, only 4 stops, but over 100km long. > > My plan is to do as suggested, a relationship for each direction. When > done, I'll look at a

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Clifford Snow
Looks like I need to find a different route, something easier. What I picked looked easy, only 4 stops, but over 100km long. My plan is to do as suggested, a relationship for each direction. When done, I'll look at a master relation for all. So two questions: 1) When looking at the bus routes in

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread pierzenh
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Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 08.10.2015 um 17:37 schrieb Clifford Snow : > > 1) When looking at the bus routes in Rome, I noticed bus_stops are group > together in the relation, not interspersed between ways. I would have thought > that the stops would be in spatial order

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 08.10.2015 um 17:37 schrieb Clifford Snow : > > 2) Is it necessary to use forward/backward if the ways are in order? if you have one relation per direction you should not need these roles (afaik) cheers Martin

[OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-07 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm trying to add my first bus route. I'm struggling to understand how to properly add the relation. The route, like most bus routes, loops back over the same ways. So my questions: If the bus travels over the same way going two different directions, is the way added twice to the relationship,

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-07 Thread Eduardo
El 07/10/2015 8:12 pm, Clifford Snow escribió: I'm trying to add my first bus route. I'm struggling to understand how to properly add the relation. The route, like most bus routes, loops back over the same ways. So my questions: If the bus travels over the same way going two different

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-07 Thread Jo
Hi, I wrote something about it here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Polyglot/diary/28401 It's written as a reaction to how the stops are mapped in Germany. The way I see it, the nodes next to the ways are the more important ones, so they are the ones that get added to the route relations and

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-07 Thread Andrew Errington
I am keen to know the right answer. Last time I tried it I ended up creating two routes. One for outbound, and one for inbound. Having both together in the same relation was a bit claustrophobic. I think I found a discussion somewhere which resulted in the same conclusion, but I can't remember

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-07 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-10-08 04:12, Clifford Snow wrote: I'm trying to add my first bus route. I'm struggling to understand how to properly add the relation. The route, like most bus routes, loops back over the same ways. So my questions: If the bus travels over the same way going two different directions, is

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus routes questions

2009-07-01 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:50:30PM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote: i think it's time to cleanup bus routes concept http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Public_Transportation * forward/backward_stop can't work if you map bus_stop as standalone waypoint * stop_number is useless because

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus routes questions

2009-07-01 Thread simon
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:50:30PM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote: There is a proposal on the table that solves all these things and much more: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Oxomoa/Public_transport_schema I like this proposal, it seems to cover most things that I can think off. I've

[OSM-talk] Bus routes questions

2009-06-30 Thread Ondrej Novy
Hi all, i think it's time to cleanup bus routes concept http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Public_Transportation * forward/backward_stop can't work if you map bus_stop as standalone waypoint * stop_number is useless because we have ordered relations * if bus goes from place A