Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-28 Thread Tirkon
Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: But as soon as you want to use the interlanguage links as a database - just like OSM - then it is suboptimal. For my point of view that's not a problem of OSM. It's the same as we don't map for the renderer. So this needs to be solved by another

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: My idea was to use these Wikidata objects to link everybody to the Wikipedia article of his browser language. For the Universe article this should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-28 Thread colliar
On 29.06.2013 01:33, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com mailto:bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de mailto:tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: My idea was to use these Wikidata

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-27 Thread Rob Nickerson
It was IE8 on XP Sp3 that it did not work on. Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 26.06.2013 03:04, schrieb Tirkon: If we link from OSM as a international project to a Wikipedia article there is the problem, that we cannot link everybody to the article of his native language. did you take care about WIWOSM? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WIWOSM - This already works

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 26/giu/2013, at 05:34, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: The present fallback is the Wikidata article. These questions I ask myself as well. But at present the basic functionality should be tested. isn't wikidata an extract of Wikipedia and therefor doesn't provide more but at the most

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Tirkon
Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: did you take care about WIWOSM? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WIWOSM Of course I do. ;-) - This already works fine since more than one year. - the tagging scheme can handle different language even in parallel - BUT: the tagging of ONE LANGUAGE is

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: isn't wikidata an extract of Wikipedia and therefor doesn't provide more but at the most the same information than Wikipedia? What can you do with your approach that you can't do with the inter language links

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Tirkon
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: isn't wikidata an extract of Wikipedia and therefor doesn't provide more but at the most the same information than Wikipedia? What can you do with your approach that you can't do with the inter language links in WP? (ok, in wikidata you get the

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Tirkon
Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Wikidata actually now powers the interlanguage links in (at least) the English Wikipedia. .. in all 280 languages. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Kolossos
Hello Tirkon, the tool is working, but it would also no problem to write such a tool on base of Wikipedias interwikilinks. Wikipedia article names are human readable, and I would be careful to call a link to Q1 native for somebody. We had a proposal for a Wikidata-Tag. Please read my comment

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Rob Nickerson
Working on: Firefox 21 on ubuntu 12.10 Chromium 25.0.1364.160 (Developer Build 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu0.12.10.1) Ubuntu 12.10 Chrome 28.0.1500.52 (Official Build 207119) Not working on: IE (V7 I think - can check tomorrow) on XP Best, Rob ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-26 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 26.06.2013 19:09, schrieb Tirkon: But as soon as you want to use the interlanguage links as a database - just like OSM - then it is suboptimal. For my point of view that's not a problem of OSM. It's the same as we don't map for the renderer. So this needs to be solved by another tool or in

[OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-25 Thread Tirkon
If we link from OSM as a international project to a Wikipedia article there is the problem, that we cannot link everybody to the article of his native language. In order to overcome this problem I had the idea to use the new Wikidata project. The first project of Wikidata is to collect all

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-25 Thread Serge Wroclawski
I have a lot of thoughts about this proposal, but this really should happen on the tagging list. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: My idea was to use these Wikidata objects to link everybody to the Wikipedia article of his browser language. For the Universe article this should be done by clicking this:

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-25 Thread Tirkon
Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: I have a lot of thoughts about this proposal, but this really should happen on the tagging list. At this time this is no official proposal but only a question if it worked for you or not - in which language and with which browsers.

Re: [OSM-talk] Please test this Native wikipedia link - feature

2013-06-25 Thread Tirkon
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: In my case that would bring up English first, but if no version of English is available, German: The present fallback is the Wikidata article. These questions I ask myself as well. But at present the basic functionality should be tested.