Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-24 Thread Milo van der Linden
I wish I'd known that you shouldn't ask the community for help to set up a team to develop something marvelous but DIY! Alone! You need to go sit in the basement, blind the windows, block IRC and e-mail, completely ignore the internet, sleep during the day (or better, don't sleep at all) and

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-23 Thread Giacomo Boschi
SteveC ha scritto: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? How can I use the data! Or, paraphrasing a famous JFK quote: Tell me not what I can do for OSM, tell me what can OSM do for me. When I was a beginner, I didn't know

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-21 Thread David Earl
On 21 Mar 2010, at 00:15, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: (I have managed to get audio-clip mapping working ever) (I assume there is a 'not' missing from that) Have you read: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/AudioMapping and

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-21 Thread Milo van der Linden
I wish I would have known that in a community not everyone is as open. Some people get flamed for being open when telling I want to do this and that with openstreetmap while others keep a low profile and suddenly hit the news with half finished products. Sometimes I think when communications

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-21 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/21 Anthony o...@inbox.org: How to add USGS high res imagery as a layer for tracing. you could file a josm-ticket to have them in the basic configuration (already as preset like yahoo). (add the

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-21 Thread Gregory
On 21 March 2010 08:35, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Was your problem not understanding it or was something going wrong? The reason I developed it was so I didn't have to keep stopping when cycling (time and knee damage!), and I use it everytime, so I'd be interested to know

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-21 Thread SomeoneElse
SteveC wrote: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? (in addition to lots of the things that other people have said) 1) That not everything that's already mapped is perfect. I started straightforwardly adding GPS tracks

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Tirkon
SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? The most annoying thing, I wish I had known before is, that editors destroy things without any warning, but you do not have the chance, to take notice of

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread John Smith
On 20 March 2010 18:50, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: The most annoying thing, I wish I had known before is, that editors destroy things without any warning, but you do not have the chance, to take notice of that fact. I.e. potlatch destroys the correct order of the ways in a route

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Tirkon
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 March 2010 18:50, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: The most annoying thing, I wish I had known before is, that editors destroy things without any warning, but you do not have the chance, to take notice of that fact. I.e. potlatch destroys the

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Teemu Koskinen
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:45:56 +0200, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? I wish I had known that the Yahoo aerial images are not rectified, as I blindly went and corrected all the roads

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Teemu Koskinen
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:50:13 +0200, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 March 2010 19:42, Teemu Koskinen teemu.koski...@mbnet.fi wrote: I wish I had known that the Yahoo aerial images are not rectified, as I blindly went and corrected all the roads in my neighborhood by moving

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 19 Mar 2010, at 22:45, SteveC wrote: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? * photo editing in JOSM, it was only after seeing a demo by Chris Fleming that I found out how to do it * Shift+drag to zoom the map * What's

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread John Smith
On 20 March 2010 20:00, Teemu Koskinen teemu.koski...@mbnet.fi wrote: That only helps if the images are just offset by some amount, it doesn't help at all if they are warped, rotated etc. See eg. the centre of Helsinki: http://elanor.mine.nu/daeron/wavy.jpg All the red lines are completely

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Tirkon
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: you shouldn't have to know this. I am the opposite opinion, because ... It is really hard, to setup in particular a long route relation. You need excellent knowledges of all places in detail. Because this is not possible i.e for an e-road with about

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Liz
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010, Tirkon wrote: you shouldn't have to know this. I am the opposite opinion, because ... It is really hard, to setup in particular a long route relation. You need excellent knowledges of all places in detail. Because this is not possible i.e for an e-road with about 5000

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread John Smith
On 20 March 2010 21:07, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: you shouldn't have to know this. I am the opposite opinion, because ... It is really hard, to setup in particular a long route relation. You I meant the editor shouldn't screw up relations

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Tirkon
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 March 2010 21:07, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: you shouldn't have to know this. I am the opposite opinion, because ... It is really hard, to setup in particular a long route relation. You I

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Bernhard zwischenbrugger
hi What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? I use the OSM tiles to teach javascript. 2 for loops for x,y and absolute positioning delivers a big map. That's cool. For moving the map there are mouse events nessessary. And i

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread John Smith
On 20 March 2010 22:52, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: The problem is, that - as far as I know - every person may offer an editor. If this is true, with more and more editors the problem will grow in future. Cause one popular editor, that is not aware and does not follow these roules, could

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread John Smith
On 20 March 2010 23:05, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: But how to do the gps to xy transformations? That's not an OSM issue so much as an OpenLayers issue... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Chris Hill
SteveC wrote: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? The stuff that I know now that I wish I had known includes: * That joining ways together is important. * That the right tag to use is not a black-and-white issue. *

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Lars Francke
What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? * That the wiki is not the standard for tagging information. It evens says so but at the same time people still often refer to it and treat it as the reference documentation for

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Mitja Kleider
Bernhard Zwischenbrugger-2 wrote: I use the OSM tiles to teach javascript. If there would be an easy to find place with all the mathematical thing it would be very nice. Did you hear about Proj4JS? http://www.proj4js.org/ -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Gregory
* To note everything/anything you have even an inckling is interesting even if you don't know anyone else mapping it. Because back home you can look up how people have tagged it, or invent a new tag(s). * That photo mapping is where the biz is. (I have managed to get audio-clip mapping working

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? How to add USGS high res imagery as a layer for tracing. ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/21 Anthony o...@inbox.org: How to add USGS high res imagery as a layer for tracing. you could file a josm-ticket to have them in the basic configuration (already as preset like yahoo). (add the wms-url to the ticket) cheers, Martin ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/20 Teemu Koskinen teemu.koski...@mbnet.fi: That only helps if the images are just offset by some amount, it doesn't help at all if they are warped, rotated etc. See eg. the centre of Helsinki: http://elanor.mine.nu/daeron/wavy.jpg All the red lines are completely straight in reality.

[OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-19 Thread SteveC
What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-19 Thread Laurence Penney
How about you go first? - L On 19 Mar 2010, at 22:45, SteveC wrote: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org