Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-15 Thread Simon Poole
® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Werner Hoch werner...@gmx.de Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:37:22 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ? Am

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 04/13/2013 03:33 PM, Simon Poole wrote: While there is clearly room for improvement in converting account creators to contributors [..] What about asking them why they registered and did not edit the map ? Would a one-off mailing to users who registered more than three months ago and have no

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-15 Thread Marc Gemis
One of my collegeas signed up a long time ago, but never made an edit. I asked him today, why he signed up. He vaguely remembers that some Android app he was using hinted (or he understood) that he should sign up in order to use the app. He also thought that he might add some footpaths one day,

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-15 Thread Stefan Keller
One of my hypotheses is that there are users which are shy or intimidated when trying to capture and edit OSM data. Among others, this was a reason to me to invent Kort [1] - the OSM game implemented as a rewarding data capturing app, released beginning of this year (next big release will be mid

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 04/15/2013 12:13 PM, Stefan Keller wrote: One of my hypotheses is that there are users which are shy or intimidated when trying to capture and edit OSM data. So should another survey option be something like I registered but I'm not so sure about editing anymore ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Just a further data point. As of the end of last month we had edits from 324'152 unique UIDs, not quite 30% of all accounts (some of the changesets are likely to be empty, but the number is still quite a bit larger than the

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-14 Thread Werner Hoch
Am Sonntag, den 14.04.2013, 23:38 +1000 schrieb Steve Bennett: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Just a further data point. As of the end of last month we had edits from 324'152 unique UIDs, not quite 30% of all accounts (some of the changesets are likely

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-14 Thread Simon Poole
Am 14.04.2013 20:37, schrieb Werner Hoch: Am Sonntag, den 14.04.2013, 23:38 +1000 schrieb Steve Bennett: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Just a further data point. As of the end of last month we had edits from 324'152 unique UIDs, not quite 30% of all

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-14 Thread John F. Eldredge
Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Am 14.04.2013 20:37, schrieb Werner Hoch: Am Sonntag, den 14.04.2013, 23:38 +1000 schrieb Steve Bennett: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Just a further data point. As of the end of last month we had edits from

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-14 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
-Original Message- From: Werner Hoch werner...@gmx.de Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:37:22 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ? Am Sonntag, den 14.04.2013, 23:38 +1000 schrieb Steve Bennett: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:33

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-14 Thread David Fawcett
from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Werner Hoch werner...@gmx.de Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:37:22 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-13 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 04/13/2013 12:16 PM, SomeoneElse wrote: On 12/04/2013 23:08, Johan C wrote: The question is: how do we unlock this giant community potential? At the risk of being slightly heretical, I think that it's OK that OSM is a resource that people can use and perhaps update occasionally without

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-13 Thread Simon Poole
Am 13.04.2013 13:50, schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier: . That is not heretical - it is perfectly fine that some people just want to add their pet POI and never come back. But that is infinitely more than the total lack of edit which is what I find puzzling. I think it is completely

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-13 Thread Simon Poole
Just a further data point. As of the end of last month we had edits from 324'152 unique UIDs, not quite 30% of all accounts (some of the changesets are likely to be empty, but the number is still quite a bit larger than the often quoted 200'000). While there is clearly room for improvement in

[OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Looking at the profiles of nearby mappers displayed on my profile page's map, I am astonished to find that most of them have made zero edits. Those people went through the effort of registering (some even added an avatar picture) but then did not use their account for anything - no edits, no

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread sabas88
2013/4/12 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org Looking at the profiles of nearby mappers displayed on my profile page's map, I am astonished to find that most of them have made zero edits. Those people went through the effort of registering (some even added an avatar picture) but then did not

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread Mike N
On 4/12/2013 8:00 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Looking at the profiles of nearby mappers displayed on my profile page's map, I am astonished to find that most of them have made zero edits. Those people went through the effort of registering (some even added an avatar picture) but then did not

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: Looking at the profiles of nearby mappers displayed on my profile page's map, I am astonished to find that most of them have made zero edits. Those people went through the effort of registering (some even added an

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread Cartinus
Most of these are people who didn't read what Openstreetmap was about before they registered. They most likely thought they would need to register to _USE_ all the features of Openstreetmap, not contribute to it. On 04/12/2013 02:00 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Looking at the profiles of nearby

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Cartinus wrote: Most of these are people who didn't read what Openstreetmap was about before they registered. They most likely thought they would need to register to _USE_ all the features of Openstreetmap, not contribute to it. +1. You'd be surprised how common this is. Our village

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread LM_1
I found osm by accident when searching for a map editing tool. The first experience was not great - what I got was a Potlatch centred on one line - representing a street. What do I do now? Move the street - where? Potlatch has quite minimalistic UI - that makes is simple, but also hides a lot of

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread SomeoneElse
Clifford Snow wrote: One of the features I'd really like to see is a way to send mapping party announcements to people in the mapping party area. Of course we'd need a way for people to opt out, but inviting people out to become part of a community is a good way to engage more users.

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:41 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote: I suspect that a totally automatic way of doing that might be frowned upon, but a semi-automatic way would b to load something like http://resultmaps.neis-one.**org/oooc?zoom=12lat=53.21292**

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread Johan C
OSM has got over 1,1 million registered users now. About 20.000 of them frequently make edits. There's still a lot of opportunities here, because all registered users at least have some interest in OSM. The question is: how do we unlock this giant community potential? Cheers, Johan 2013/4/12

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread mick
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:00:46 +0200 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: Looking at the profiles of nearby mappers displayed on my profile page's map, I am astonished to find that most of them have made zero edits. Those people went through the effort of registering (some even added an

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-12 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I don't at all want to discourage improvements, the efforts of the WWG, etc, but at the same time we have to be clear that this kind of ratio is pretty common amongst crowd sourced projects. For example, if you look at English Wikipedia's stats, there are over 800K wikipedians (and note, they've