Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-28 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Michael, thanks for your comments! The original searchbox functionality has been restored, sorry for the delay. See also some related requests to make it even more useful. [1] I have made some changes to the OpenStreetMap:Wikibase wiki page - could you take a look? I would love your help in

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-28 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:50 AM Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com > wrote: > Main point of separate presets is that creator of an editor has control > over it. > Mateusz, who should control an app's behavior - the developer or the community? Can app make certain editing choices

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26. Sep 2018 21:18 by yuriastrak...@gmail.com : > In the last week, we had 18 users making nearly 900 changes For someone maintaining an editor it is a drawback, not benefit. On wiki if someone decides to mark (for example) landuse=forest as wrong, evil and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-26 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Mateusz, I think we have a chance of success this time because unlike other rulesets that are stored in the specific project's GIT repos, this project is * wiki based and centralized, just like the tag documentation, and accessible to a much wider community. In the last week, we had 18 users

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Part of Wikibase that are an attempt to create yet another preset and validator ruleset are probably not going to be used by anybody. Note that so far every editor creates its own (iD, Vespucci, JOSM...). 23. Sep 2018 14:05 by osm...@michreichert.de : > TBH, if

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 6:34 PM Christoph Hormann wrote: > > The content stored in Wikibase is editable by wiki users using a > > regular wiki account, same as with other wiki pages. > > This i have no doubts about - but this is not the question. The > question is who is de facto in control of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 23 September 2018, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 23.09.2018 17:07, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > If you'd now impose > > technical constraints preventing mappers from documenting things > > that do not match a certain ideal of structure would you would > > effectively make the wiki unsuitable

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 23 September 2018, Andrew Hain wrote: > Could you give some examples so that the wider OSM community can do > something about it? I am somewhat reluctant to point to specific people here but there are in particular a few fans of key systematics who eagerly defend their view on how

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 23.09.2018 17:07, Christoph Hormann wrote: > If you'd now impose > technical constraints preventing mappers from documenting things that > do not match a certain ideal of structure would you would effectively > make the wiki unsuitable for its primary application and mappers would > need to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018, 14:58 Christoph Hormann wrote: > > For clarification: The main purpose of the OSM wiki is to allow mappers > to document tags they use and allow them to coordinate and communicate > about this use of tags with other mappers. Agree If you have some data > collecting

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Andrew Hain
Could you give some examples so that the wider OSM community can do something about it? -- Andrew From: Christoph Hormann We already have quite a few people on the wiki who try to forbid mappers accurately documenting widely used tags because these tags are

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:36 PM Richard wrote: > > Key:bridge:movable:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q104 > > Tag:bridge:movable=bascule: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q888 > > how do I get at other language's versions, and how do I get easily at the > original source

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 23 September 2018, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > > I suspect that the attempts for more structured metadata won't be > > really accepted by the community (the editors of the wiki). > > As one of the more active editors of the wiki, I'm very hopeful for > this project. The current "solution"

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Richard
Hi, > as of today, OSM Wiki can store structured tag metadata similar to > Wikidata. In every possible language, cross-linked, with images, > validation rules, or anything else the community decides to store there. > See examples: > > Key:bridge:movable:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 23.09.2018 14:05, Michael Reichert wrote: > Currently, the search of the wiki is not really useful any more. Indeed, the search field is pretty much broken at the moment. However, this has been brought up on the wiki talk page, and Yuri said he was looking for a fix. So I think it's safe to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Dave F
Hi If I type 'bridge' into the wiki search & press return it loads the Key:bridge However if I type it & select the top response in the popdown it takes me to Q103, which AFAICS is of no help to anyone, least of all newcomers who are most likely to use the wiki. 1) Why the difference in

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-23 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Yuri, Am 18.09.18 um 11:30 schrieb Yuri Astrakhan: > as of today, OSM Wiki can store structured tag metadata similar to > Wikidata. In every possible language, cross-linked, with images, > validation rules, or anything else the community decides to store there. > See examples: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-20 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Everyone, please ignore the "don't edit or translate the label" restriction. There is now a dedicated ID P16 property. We can change label to be more useful to the new editors, e.g. "name in English" instead of "name:en" Thanks! On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 18:01 Shu Higashi wrote: > Hi Yuri,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-20 Thread Shu Higashi
Hi Yuri, thanks for offering this feature. > When editing, please do not > change or translate the "label" > field. Only use description field for > the translation efforts, Can you please explain the reason for this? Is it both the label of items and properties that should not be translated?