Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-09-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-09-01 13:14, Dave F. wrote: That the icon is used purely as a place holder & *removed* when a picture is added proves its irrelevance. Why would a newbie care or even need to know the XML structure of the database? Why is that relevant? The wiki has to be a clear & simple as

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-09-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 30.08.2015 um 12:50 schrieb "ajt1...@gmail.com" : > > It's a wiki. If you think you can improve it, do so. yes, it is a wiki, but I appreciate that he's asking here before making a change that will affect many pages. Just because everybody has

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-09-01 Thread Dave F.
That the icon is used purely as a place holder & *removed* when a picture is added proves its irrelevance. Why would a newbie care or even need to know the XML structure of the database? The wiki has to be a clear & simple as possible. "I see that icon as an indication that the detail I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-09-01 Thread Lester Caine
On 01/09/15 12:14, Dave F. wrote: > That the icon is used purely as a place holder & *removed* when a > picture is added proves its irrelevance. > > Why would a newbie care or even need to know the XML structure of the > database? That there is a lot of material that is NOT rendered on the map

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-30 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com
On 30/08/2015 10:34, Dave F. wrote: I'm looking for either a valid reason to keep it if there is none, remove it. Poor/lazy wiki page design doesn't seem a valid one. Neither is giving irrelevant, baffling info to newbies. We're meant to be encouraging people to join in, not turn them

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-30 Thread Dave F.
On 27/08/2015 11:13, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2015-08-27 11:21, Dave F. wrote: On 26/08/2015 21:54, Andrew Hain wrote: Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com writes: Hi Bearing in mind the wiki is used more often by new OSM contributors therefore should be a clear concise as possible, I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-30 Thread Lester Caine
On 30/08/15 13:02, Dave F. wrote: As it doesn't help anyone learn the basics of OSM, it has no purpose on a wiki be removed. The fact that there are now two identical icons is a little careless, but that icon has a very valid place on both the original pages ( multiple languages ) that explaon

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-30 Thread Dave F.
I'd love to, but know I'd make a pigs ear of it. Unlike many people I'm aware of my limitations. Those limitations, however, are not valid reasons for keeping this icon. As it doesn't help anyone learn the basics of OSM, it has no purpose on a wiki be removed. Dave F. On 30/08/2015 11:50,

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-08-27 11:21, Dave F. wrote: On 26/08/2015 21:54, Andrew Hain wrote: Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com writes: Hi Bearing in mind the wiki is used more often by new OSM contributors therefore should be a clear concise as possible, I'm curious why this icon is so prevalent:

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-27 Thread Dave F.
On 26/08/2015 21:54, Andrew Hain wrote: Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com writes: Hi Bearing in mind the wiki is used more often by new OSM contributors therefore should be a clear concise as possible, I'm curious why this icon is so prevalent:

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Hain
Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com writes: Hi Bearing in mind the wiki is used more often by new OSM contributors therefore should be a clear concise as possible, I'm curious why this icon is so prevalent: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/thumb/5/5f/Osm_element_tag.sv