Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

shop=consignment Locally it means a shop that sells things such as high end used clothes on consignment. ie the owner of the goods only get paid when the items are sold. Cheerio John Philip Barnes wrote on 5/19/2023 12:25 PM: On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 20:48 +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via talk

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 20:48 +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > > For start there is a long list of shop values which meaning I do not > understand > (for example, from start of list of exactly such values: > shop=grossery, shop=towing, shop=showroom, shop=salon, shop=garage, > shop=pond,

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 18/5/23 04:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: May 16, 2023, 19:22 by ajt1...@gmail.com: On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by ajt1...@gmail.com: More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data (or

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

May 16, 2023, 19:22 by ajt1...@gmail.com: > On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > >> >> >> Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by >> ajt1...@gmail.com>> : >> >> >>> More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data >>> (or actually, _any_ external data from

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Ciao Andy > On 16 May 2023, at 19:15, Andy Townsend wrote: > > You changed it to "shop=yes", of which there are 180,000 of in OSM. No-one > is going to spot that as an "unusual" shop at all. Especially since these `shop=yes` are not rendered on OpenStreetMap Carto anymore, this made me

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by ajt1...@gmail.com: More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data (or actually, _any_ external data from _anywhere_) will look at the values contained in it***. And that is exactly

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by ajt1...@gmail.com: > On 21/04/2023 12:46, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > >> when you search for tea shop and it was marked as >> shop=herbata ("herbata" is Polish for tea) then even a well written search >> tool >> will fail to reliably find it. >> > > Where

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 21/04/2023 12:46, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: when you search for tea shop and it was marked as shop=herbata ("herbata" is Polish for tea) then even a well written search tool will fail to reliably find it. Where something is an _absolute direct equivalent_ (but in another

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 22/04/2023 08:38, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Wiki should not be mindlessly obeyed but it at least tends to be right. [citation needed] The OSM wiki tends to be many things, among those "somewhat helpful" and "usually edited in good faith"; but "tends to be right" is very much a

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 22 April 2023 08:45:51 BST, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: shop=patisserie shop=bakery not shop=pastry ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dpastry In English I would translate a French patisserie to a cake shop, although patisserie is a crossover word that would

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Sounds good to me. Thank you. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 20, 2023, 21:50 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > Le 20.04.23 à 20:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : > >> For start I want to propose to people to review shop tags in their area >> with undocumented shop values or ones documented as problematic. >> See http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1u2o

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 21, 2023, 17:45 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 13:06, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > >> Apr 20, 2023, 21:54 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: >> >> shop = vaping → shop = e-cigarette> shop = vape_store → shop = e-cigarette >> >> "vape" seems to be the more

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 13:06, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > Apr 20, 2023, 21:54 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > shop = vaping → shop = e-cigarette> shop = vape_store → shop = e-cigarette > "vape" seems to be the more widely-used term, in the UK. > > but it is the same shop type, right?

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 21, 2023, 15:08 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > Am Fr., 21. Apr. 2023 um 14:08 Uhr schrieb Andy Townsend <> > ajt1...@gmail.com> >: > >> On 21/04/2023 12:17, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: >> We're actually talking about the "long tail" of shop values - genuine, >> perfectly

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Am Fr., 21. Apr. 2023 um 14:08 Uhr schrieb Andy Townsend : > On 21/04/2023 12:17, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > We're actually talking about the "long tail" of shop values - genuine, > perfectly descriptive, perfectly valid values, like "shop=whisky" that > someone mentioned on IRC this

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 21, 2023, 14:09 by ajt1...@gmail.com: > On 21/04/2023 12:17, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > >> It helps because maintaining lists of many many many rarely used meaningless >> values >> in every single QA tool and validator and tool doing this is annoying at >> best. >> > > > For the

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 20, 2023, 21:54 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 19:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > >> shop = chandler → shop = ship_chandler >> > > In the UK at least, chandlers are more likely to cater for boats than ships. > removing from list then >> shop = vaping →

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 21/04/2023 12:17, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: It helps because maintaining lists of many many many rarely used meaningless values in every single QA tool and validator and tool doing this is annoying at best. For the avoidance of doubt we are NOT talking about meaningless values

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Le 21.04.23 à 11:29, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : Am Fr., 21. Apr. 2023 um 11:19 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com >: A rendering issue. Why not have a generic symbol for 'shop' and use that for any value of shop that you don't have a

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 21, 2023, 10:17 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > Am Fr., 21. Apr. 2023 um 09:47 Uhr schrieb Jochen Topf <> joc...@remote.org> > >: > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:11:49PM +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: >> > To change "shop=veryrarevalue" where it was correct to >> >

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 21, 2023, 11:18 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > On 21/4/23 04:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > >> bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, >> three over 100 times, many used less) >> >> For quite long time I am trying to use OSM-based products as

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Apr 20, 2023, 23:18 by ajt1...@gmail.com: > On 20/04/2023 19:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > >> For start I want to propose to people to review shop tags in their area >> with undocumented shop values or ones documented as problematic. >> >> See http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1u2o >> > >

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Am Fr., 21. Apr. 2023 um 11:19 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > A rendering issue. > > Why not have a generic symbol for 'shop' and use that for any value of > shop that you don't have a specific symbol for? > this is a deliberate decision, because it would provide positive

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 21/4/23 04:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less) For quite long time I am trying to use OSM-based products as Google Maps replacement. One of major issues are POIs (in many

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Am Fr., 21. Apr. 2023 um 09:47 Uhr schrieb Jochen Topf : > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:11:49PM +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: > > To change "shop=veryrarevalue" where it was correct to > > "shop=lessrarevalue"without preserving the detail somehow loses detail > from > > OSM and is therefore by

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:11:49PM +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: > To change "shop=veryrarevalue" where it was correct to > "shop=lessrarevalue"without preserving the detail somehow loses detail from > OSM and is therefore by definition a Bad Thing.  Some of the entries on your I disagree with that

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 20:47:34 +0100 Andy Mabbett wrote: > On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 19:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > > shop = unattended → shop = vacant > > "Unattended" is not "vacant"; it can mean a place where one pays in an > "honesty box", or uses vending machines. These were

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 20/04/2023 19:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: For start I want to propose to people to review shop tags in their area with undocumented shop values or ones documented as problematic. See http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1u2o Reviewing "odd" tags before tagfiddling them away seems to me a

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 19:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > shop = chandler → shop = ship_chandler In the UK at least, chandlers are more likely to cater for boats than ships. > shop = vaping → shop = e-cigarette> shop = vape_store → shop = e-cigarette "vape" seems to be the more

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Le 20.04.23 à 20:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : bot proposal: shop values cleanup ok For start I want to propose to people to review shop tags in their area with undocumented shop values or ones documented as problematic. See http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1u2o