Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-11 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Mar 10, 2020, 23:17 by m...@teczno.com: > things we filtered out individually because we found a problem with them > Once this is separated out it may be interesting to use. Especially if one will be able to filter by error/heuristic type. Maybe some will report serious issues not detected by cu

[OSM-talk] geomob podcast

2020-03-11 Thread chilton steve via talk
Have you found the excellent geomob podcast yet? If not, it is worth checking it out. This week's episode showcases the cartographic career of Steve Chilton, and more importantly his work with and for the OpenStreetMap project over many years, including his thoughts on the good, and not so good

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread joost schouppe
Simon, I guess with small overlap you mean it's only about people who use osm.org tiles, not people who use other services? While that is true, the double whammy of both heavily using resources and also not attributing does seem like a good subgroup to start with some measures. In the case of the

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Simon Poole
As I wrote (conveniently ignored in the noise of the vigilante rampage): "The safe, I admit also the less fun, option, is to simply block access after giving any required notice." Simon Am 11.03.2020 um 14:49 schrieb joost schouppe: > Simon, > > I guess with small overlap you mean it's only about

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Mar 11, 2020, 15:37 by si...@poole.ch: > > As I wrote (conveniently ignored in the noise of the vigilante rampage): > " > > I guess that people were irritated by describing gentle reminder about license requirements using pejorative terms ("deface") where their applicability was dubious. >

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Simon Poole
Am 11.03.2020 um 15:48 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk: > Mar 11, 2020, 15:37 by si...@poole.ch: > > As I wrote (conveniently ignored in the noise of the vigilante > rampage): " > > I guess that people were irritated by describing gentle reminder about > license requirements > using pej

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread joost schouppe
Hi Simon, In a volunteer community, fun things are more likely to happen at all. So I do think the idea is worth exploring, even if the current implementation might be risky to OSMfr or to OSMF if implemented without much further thought. I would personally be interested in a more in depth analys

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Rory McCann
Hi Christian, That's a interesting approach, and interesting to see that it gets results. If you think it's too rude, or aggressive, you should remember that polite words sometimes don't work. If you don't like people shouting at you, then it's your fault for ignoring them when they speak calm

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Mario Frasca
On 11/03/2020 09:37, Simon Poole wrote: As I wrote (conveniently ignored in the noise of the vigilante rampage): "The safe, I admit also the less fun, option, is to simply block access after giving any required notice." Hi Simon.  let me provide you my individual reason for ignoring your op

Re: [OSM-talk] CyclOSM one year anniversary

2020-03-11 Thread joost schouppe
Congrats on the anniversary :) I am really happy with this map - it's not just useful for planning trips, but also for bicycle advocacy work, as well as for convincing people who need to make policy decisions that OSM data is what they need. Op za 29 feb. 2020 om 18:03 schreef Florimond Berthoux

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Yves
If the terms of use is sufficiently clear, and a couple of warnings have been issued beforehand, then what can possibly happen? This is a rhetorical question. Yves Le 11 mars 2020 16:10:55 GMT+01:00, Simon Poole a écrit : > >Am 11.03.2020 um 15:48 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk: >> Mar 11

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Simon Poole
Well the other bit that I wrote was: "Enforcing attribution for services that you are providing directly (aka tiles in some form) only has a small overlap with the goals of the attribution guideline, and the avenues open to you depend on your ToUs / contracts with your users and the legal situatio

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-11 Thread Marc M.
Hello, Simon Poole wrote > it is clear that using a neutral message and clear ToUs, > is definitely less risky than an aggressive > message without ToUs. I fully agree with that. so I suggest that we include in the ToU : - the "caller" may include a means of contact in its call to the tiles ( pa

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-11 Thread Marc M.
Mikel Maron wrote : > "you don't really know what you're talking about" is a rude thing to say. it why I said "I get the impression that..." > And expressing a belief that FB is not capable of doing this to a small, or > even large degree, is not based on any factual inquiry of what they've don

[OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Jack Armstrong
How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks.https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=IOiHry5EPtSQ_3YoGQ4jGw&focus=photo&lat=39.7620490002&lng=-104.9674159996&z=17&x=0.6324722779922073&y=0.6518280237656362

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread James
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:variable ? On Wed., Mar. 11, 2020, 9:24 p.m. Jack Armstrong, wrote: > How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the > wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks. > > > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong wrote: > How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the > wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks. > The sign itself would be highway=traffic_sign, traffic_sign=maxpseed, maxspeed=traffic_signals. Fo

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong > wrote: > >> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the >> wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks. >> > > The sign itself would be highway=tra

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:59 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong >> wrote: >> >>> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on >>> the wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in t

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Jack Armstrong
Thanks for the great input. I've added the signals and modified the street. If I got anything wrong or if anything needs changing, please feel free to let me know. Cheers :)https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=22/39.76201/-104.96784-Original Message- From: Paul Johnson Sent: Mar 11, 2020

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-03-12 03:59, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong wrote: How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks. The si