Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with. There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag be on the data or

Re: [talk-ph] changes of raod types

2009-08-03 Thread maning sambale
Excellent summary eugene! May I also add, trunk: pedestrians are usually not allowed to cross (unless on footbridges). Hope the discussion gets into the conventions page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_conventions On 8/3/09, Eugene Alvin Villar

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussel - Bruxelles

2009-08-03 Thread Dennis Bollyn
In order to prevent any flamewars, I believe it was decided on that whoever created the street/node could decide the order. In truth, I don't really care myself. If the original order of the node (before 2007) was FR - NL, it would be more correct to use that order since that means someone

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Problem in Herve

2009-08-03 Thread Renaud MICHEL
Le lundi 3 août 2009, Ben Laenen a écrit : I have the impression that you've corrected it already now. But please contact Neo and ask him about it, so he can watch out it doesn't happen again. You can also immediately ask him to upload his gps tracks. Yes, I've never used the messaging system

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Similarly deletions can be reverted easily No, because the osc file does not contain all information about the previous state of the deleted object! (It only works for untagged nodes.) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Sunday 02 August 2009 23:42:13 Shaun McDonald wrote: http://openstreetmap.co.uk redirects to the main site. (as does .com) The goal is to create interlinks between country communities (like most of the actual websites do, but with a complete list). I'm not really interested by aliases of

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Monday 03 August 2009 06:50:36 Stefan Baebler wrote: openstreetmap.si is currently pointing to openstreetmap.org due to hosting problems. I will be happy to add it to the list as soon as it come back. -- Vincent MEURISSE ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-03 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/8/3 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: andrzej zaborowski wrote: Similarly deletions can be reverted easily No, because the osc file does not contain all information about the previous state of the deleted object! (It only works for untagged nodes.) Are you sure? I deleted a pharmacy

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Are you sure? I deleted a pharmacy in this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1990924 and it has all the tags in place. Then I stand corrected - it seems to work for all nodes, whether tagged or not. But it doesn't work for ways or

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-03 Thread James Livingston
On 02/08/2009, at 9:56 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: yes. A residential road should be avoided if possible (slow, dangerous and noisy for residents / playing kids), while I don't see this in industrial or commercial context. Not having been to Europe I can't say for sure, I wouldn't say that

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 3 Aug 2009, at 07:53, Vincent MEURISSE wrote: On Sunday 02 August 2009 23:42:13 Shaun McDonald wrote: http://openstreetmap.co.uk redirects to the main site. (as does .com) The goal is to create interlinks between country communities (like most of the actual websites do, but with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-03 Thread SLXViper
Marc Coevoet wrote: You can try the quadcopter too.. http://www.quadcopter.org/index.php5?title=Quadcopter_Home Marc quadcopters/hexacopters/octocopters/microcopters equipped with a camera are much better than a satellite. Easier and cheaper to use, and most important: satellites give only

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-03 Thread Jack Stringer
Quadcopter! I can imagine the stories in the press when this thing starts to fly. Reports of a UFO has been reported over parts of Texas, there are reports it maybe terrorists. etc. Jack Stringer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, SLXViper slxvi...@gmx.net wrote: quadcopters/hexacopters/octocopters/microcopters equipped with a camera are much better than a satellite. Easier and cheaper to use, and most important: satellites give only rather poor quality images, often with lots of clouds...

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM s atellite?

2009-08-03 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:24:55 + (GMT), John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Mon, 3/8/09, SLXViper slxvi...@gmx.net wrote: quadcopters/hexacopters/octocopters/microcopters equipped with a camera are much better than a satellite. Easier and cheaper to use, and most important:

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: OSM Zeppelin finally moored up at Empire State Building? What would the good of that be, it should be out mapping! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] road width

2009-08-03 Thread Liz
now i get to own up to having a flickr account ;-( these roads are all the same width legally, and the actual width depends on the grader driver. also none of them are dry weather only roads - so when you see that marker here it means there is no place to drive when its wet.

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM s atellite?

2009-08-03 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:36:47 + (GMT), John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Mon, 3/8/09, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: OSM Zeppelin finally moored up at Empire State Building? What would the good of that be, it should be out mapping! Stocking up

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-03 Thread hanoj
Some sort of decently sized blimp would probably be cheaper to run and don't need to constantly use energy to stay above the ground. I wonder if you can get a cheap second hand blimp from somewhere... OSM Zeppelin finally moored up at Empire State Building? maybe http://www.airshipclub.com/

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, hanoj eha...@gmail.com wrote: maybe http://www.airshipclub.com/ They seem to get about a bit, anyone contacted them about having a high-res photo/video pointing downwards? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] [voting] historic=paleontological_site

2009-08-03 Thread marcellobil...@gmail
Deal all, voting is opened: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/paleontological_site Best regards Marcello B. - ( proposed: Sun Jul 19 )

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-03 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Ulf Lamping wrote: That's a small step for openstreetmap, one giant leap for quadcopters ;-))) Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-03 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/1 Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org: On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Well I disagree. IMHO we should tag what is 'on the ground', not invent things or try to tag what's in people's minds. If a government body gives

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/3 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Tag the width of the surface on which users of the way are expected to travel. I agree and would like to add: and that is not constricted in the full usable height

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/3 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: The technical correct term in German is Lichtraumbreite (my dictionaries don't know it in English, maybe someone else here can help us). now I found it, maybe it's clearance width Martin ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-03 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Christiaan Welvaartc...@daneel.dyndns.org wrote: Why would who maintains a road directly determine its administrative classification? If a municipality decides that some road is a motorway, we better tag it as such. In The Netherlands some provinces maintain

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/3 Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org: I don't see what you're saying here. Do you have a complete text to replace the intro text on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway ? NO, of course not. All I wanted to do is change the first phrase: The highway tag is the primary

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: On 02/08/2009, at 9:56 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: yes. A residential road should be avoided if possible (slow, dangerous and noisy for residents / playing kids), while I don't see this in industrial or commercial context. Not having been to

Re: [OSM-talk] road width

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/3 Liz ed...@billiau.net: now i get to own up to having a flickr account ;-( these roads are all the same width legally, and the actual width depends on the grader driver. also none of them are dry weather only roads - so when you see that marker here it means there is no place to

[OSM-talk] -3 messages in the inbox

2009-08-03 Thread Raphael Studer
Hi, I don't know how i did this, but I've got 3 new and -3 old messages in my osm inbox.. Regards Raphael attachment: Screenshot.png___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] -3 messages in the inbox

2009-08-03 Thread Tom Hughes
On 03/08/09 15:10, Raphael Studer wrote: I don't know how i did this, but I've got 3 new and -3 old messages in my osm inbox.. I think you did it by deleting messages without reading them... So you have zero messages (because they have all been deleted) but three new messages (because three

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Monday 03 August 2009 10:48:17 am Shaun McDonald wrote: Why not have a page on the wiki for these two lists? One list for national websites, and the other for those that redirect to the main website? I was thinking about this. I just wanted to be sure to have a quite complete list

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Monday 03 August 2009 12:18:14 Emilie Laffray wrote: 4. At the end it is always up to the individual mapper to decide what is narrow. While 1 meter is 1 meter. Yes, 1 meter is 1 meter. That's why using an approximation is actually worse than using a relative factor. Using a precise

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread SLXViper
Hi, www.openstreetmap.is and osm.is weren't mentioned as far as I could see. Both redirect to the normal openstreetmap.org domain. Btw: why do all replies go by default to osm-t...@meurisse.org instead of t...@openstreetmap.org? regards ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-03 Thread Peter Körner
Peter Körner schrieb: andrzej zaborowski schrieb: Hi Peter, I don't think anybody has a reason to object to merging them. At least me and User:Mala have been merging some of these nodes last week and we got no blackmail so far :) I believe we went through all the country nodes which didn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Photos

2009-08-03 Thread John McKerrell
On 1 Aug 2009, at 01:04, Stefan de Konink wrote: On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Tristan Thomas wrote: Is there any method of adding photos etc. to OSM like there is for Google Maps. For instance, if you navigate to somewhere on Google Maps, it comes up with user submitted geo-tagged photos. Is

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/3 Blaž Lorger blaz.lor...@triera.net: On Monday 03 August 2009 12:18:14 Emilie Laffray wrote: We generally agree that there needs to be a way to assure quality of entered data. Using two distinct tags for measured and estimated values (width and est_width) is one possible approach. But

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Monday 03 August 2009 20:09:23 SLXViper wrote: www.openstreetmap.is and osm.is weren't mentioned as far as I could see. Both redirect to the normal openstreetmap.org domain. I added them to the list I also created a wiki page as mentioned before:

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 23:11, Vincent MEURISSEosm-t...@meurisse.org wrote: Italian website don't work with www. no, it does work both ways. with and without the www. the site is just a blog right now, under the blog third level domain name. -- -S

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-03 Thread Jon Burgess
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 20:49 +0200, Peter Körner wrote: Peter Körner schrieb: andrzej zaborowski schrieb: Hi Peter, I don't think anybody has a reason to object to merging them. At least me and User:Mala have been merging some of these nodes last week and we got no blackmail so far :)

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Monday 03 August 2009 23:33:04 Simone Cortesi wrote: no, it does work both ways. with and without the www. Oups sorry for confusion. Typing domain names the whole day gave me some geographic troubles :) (it seems that the one not working was the Taiwanese one but it's working now) --

Re: [OSM-talk] road width

2009-08-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/3 Liz ed...@billiau.net: now i get to own up to having a flickr account ;-( these roads are all the same width legally, and the actual width depends on the grader driver. also none of them are dry weather only roads - so when you

[OSM-talk] cycleroads and cyclestreets

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I recently was looking at this proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/cycleroad and it seems quite reasonable to me. It is already well-hung (almost 1 year), so why don't we start voting? Who is in charge/able of opening the voting-process? If you want to discuss about the

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Tag the width of the surface on which users of the way are expected to travel. I agree and would like to add: and that is not constricted in the full usable height I think the maxheight tag should be

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-03 Thread Liz
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Just for my interest: is any of you familiar with the national/local planning regulations for roads in your area? Maybe it would help to have a look if you haven't already done so. Yes I am, you can't read them on line, and I wasn't going to pay,

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm proposing is to add additional quality assurance tags. Absence of such tags would mean that there is no way to know how accurate data is. But presence of such tags would give reasonable assurance on data

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Blaž Lorgerblaz.lor...@triera.net wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 12:18:14 Emilie Laffray wrote: Yes, 1 meter is 1 meter. That's why using an approximation is actually worse than using a relative factor. Using a precise number is going to introduce errors that

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Elena of Valhalla wrote:  So is it really a big change for Germany and Italy to define the highway tag as the administrative classification of the road? As Martin already said, yes, it would be a big change, and it would become quite

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: yes, you're right, 4,40 m was indeed wrong. In the EU it is 4,50 m. That's the general maxheight (the clearance streets must have), resulting from 4,00 maxheight for the vehicle plus 50 cm clearance. This might

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/4 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: In my opinion, marginal strip and elemental part of the road is a little tricky to define for all kinds of ways. yes, that's surely for streets only, small ways won't have this to be tagged. And width:total seems strange to me at first glance. Why

Re: [OSM-talk] road width

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: actually none of them I would consider a residential road. They could be everything from primary (not probable) to track, dependant on the surrounding and actual use (what they link). usually we would think about

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: Ah, for some reason searching for bbq on the wiki doesn't find that. Weird. If we're going to use bbq, I'll change some of the ones that I have done over, and add fuel= Wikimedia wiki search is a bit hit and miss, I just search on

Re: [talk-au] newbie Potlatch question

2009-08-03 Thread jhen
Thanks Jeff and Ross. I'm using Fedora 10 Linux on a 1000H EeePC, and I've already had a go at installing josm.  But It isn't clear to me yet just which Java package(s) I need to install first.  I'm working on that in slow-time. I've got Merkaartor installed, but I'm far from confident with

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: That's a given for any 2 people. However how the same thing is store in OSM in 2 different areas is the same. And that is what we are talking about here. Ok, to do this objectively we could either mark an area as a different

Re: [talk-au] Bush walking tracks

2009-08-03 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Ian Sergeantiserg...@hih.com.au wrote: Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote on 03/08/2009 03:06:38 PM: Calling a bush walking track a designated footpath doesn't sound exactly right, nor does calling a bushwalker a pedestrian. Thoughts? We should focus on

Re: [talk-au] newbie Potlatch question

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, j...@talk21.com j...@talk21.com wrote: I'm using Fedora 10 Linux on a 1000H EeePC, and I've already had a go at installing josm.  But It isn't clear to me yet just which Java package(s) I need to install first.  I'm working on that in slow-time. It's the normal sun-jre,

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: You can do this I guess it's a matter of rendering. I think this discussion has highlighted an underlying issue that is beyond the rendering issue however. The underlying issue is that you don't consider   administratively equal

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread Darrin Smith
John Smith wrote: You can do this I guess it's a matter of rendering. I think this discussion has highlighted an underlying issue that is beyond the rendering issue however. The underlying issue is that you don't consider administratively equal a suburb and a rural named area despite the

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread Liz
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote: What about the 90% of Australia that isn't metro areas and these boundaries are all over the place and don't line up with towns, They still provide general enough information to be useful. That same 90% also has a large number of source=landsat (or

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread Darrin Smith
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:14:46 +1000 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote: What about the 90% of Australia that isn't metro areas and these boundaries are all over the place and don't line up with towns, They still provide general enough information to be

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread Liz
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote: Not sure what your point here is Liz apart from interesting information? Although it does back up what I was saying about the ABS begin incomplete not having every designated place - I assume Beelbangera doesn't even exist in the ABS data? Still it

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread Darrin Smith
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:59:48 +1000 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote: Not sure what your point here is Liz apart from interesting information? Although it does back up what I was saying about the ABS begin incomplete not having every designated place -

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread Darrin Smith
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:50:22 +1000 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote: But until someone has the time to fix it, it will provide someone who doesn't know the area well enough information to be in approximately the right place (same as most landsat traced

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
Ok, with a pointer from the dev list I now have 2 tile style sheets set up, one shows admin_level=10 for darrin, and the other doesn't... http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=13lat=-28.31773lon=152.88587layers=0B You can actually use these tiles in other apps if you can config the URL,

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
Apart from highway shields looking different, park benches, getting rid of boundary names from being rendered if a centre place exists, is there anything else needing to be done to make the map tiles look more aussie like? ___ Talk-au

[talk-au] Cautionary tale for editing ABS ways

2009-08-03 Thread James Livingston
Hi all, As I've just discovered, you need to have some care when editing anything that causes a change to a way with over 2000 nodes (e.g. a lot of the ABS boundaries). NEVER under any circumstances let anything happen to you editor during the upload. You can't let JOSM crash, have network

Re: [talk-au] JOSM AU translation

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Ignoring malformed URL: {0}    wrong bloody address Someone, somewhere other than an aussie, kiwi or pom will come across that and wonder where all the blood come from to be on the URL :)

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: surface=unpaved and 4WD only :). The strange thing is, there was a bunch of highway=unsurfaced checks, I have no idea why they were never migrated across to surface=unpaved, updated.

[talk-au] Trivia - Husband and Wife Team

2009-08-03 Thread Nick Hocking
Apart from Victoria and Albert does anyone know of an example where A Husband and Wife have both had roads named after them and that these roads intersect. PS - I know of one such example. Nick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
Every change I've made so far makes the roads go very whacky ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Trivia - Husband and Wife Team

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Apart from Victoria and Albert does anyone know of an example where   A Husband and Wife have both had roads named after them and that these roads intersect. Ummm does George street in Sydney count? It intersects with a

Re: [talk-au] Cautionary tale for editing ABS ways

2009-08-03 Thread Liz
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, James Livingston wrote: So now I get to go and extract the old way from dumps and then re- upload it as a now way. You have been warned. I've left a broken one on western NSW I know where it is, and I'll fix it one day preferably when the server side of things is

[talk-au] road widths in australia

2009-08-03 Thread Liz
just information gathering away from that going-nowhere conversation on main talk (does not deal with any issue concerned with the value of mapping a road width, nor how) After about 1870 roads surveyed to 1 chain width earlier roads, travelling stock routes, main roads and roads forming shire

Re: [talk-au] Bush walking tracks

2009-08-03 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Stephen Hopeslh...@gmail.com wrote: Check the dates on the Wiki pages.  The whole highway=path thing is relatively recent - it may well be that the Australian Wiki advice was written before it existed. Maybe. But the question remains.

Re: [talk-au] Bush walking tracks

2009-08-03 Thread Liz
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Stephen Hopeslh...@gmail.com wrote: Check the dates on the Wiki pages. The whole highway=path thing is relatively recent - it may well be that the Australian Wiki advice was written before it existed. Maybe. But the

Re: [talk-au] Bush walking tracks

2009-08-03 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Lized...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Stephen Hopeslh...@gmail.com wrote: Check the dates on the Wiki pages.  The whole highway=path thing is relatively recent - it may well be that the Australian

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
I found a SVG version of a highway shield, at least national, on wikipedia, I should hunt through their image library some more and they might have other useful icons that we'd be able to use to improve map rendering... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australian_National_Highway.svg

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
Are national highways marked differently than other highways at all? The reason I ask is different highways get different shields, and the national highway network is the only one with a green shield with the word national at the top. Someone has put a meticulous list together, half with

Re: [talk-au] Trivia - Husband and Wife Team

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: On another topic - close to these two roads is Heanke Street which is named after Helen Haenke. I've tagged it Heanke Street since that is what is on all the street signs but it should be Haenke Street. I've included tag of

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highways_in_Australia Actually shields and so forth is a little bit all over the place, the shield shown depends not only on the highway type, or if it receives federal funding, but also proximity to a major metro area. Can anyone suggest a good way to know what

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
Can anyone suggest a good way to know what highway should be given what shield based on the current data OSM has? I should have mentioned the wiki page on tips for aussies doesn't help... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Route_Numbers Maybe I'm

Re: [talk-au] newbie Potlatch question

2009-08-03 Thread jhen
Thanks.  I've now installed Sun JRE. But JOSM doesn't work for me.  A JOSM screen comes up, sometimes with a menu bar at the top, and sometimes not.  Which ever it is, it doesn't respond to clicks or keystrokes and has to be aborted (not responding). Luckily, JOSM-WebStart (

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-03 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: i agree i think that is a bad bit it comes from using one tag to do the work of two tags In any case I've hacked together something, the shields seem a little on the large side of things so will probably make them smaller, but this is a

[talk-au] Hema Navigator, On Off Road GPS

2009-08-03 Thread Liz
http://hemanavigator.com.au/ I was looking at getting a wall map of Australia for work and look what I found. Really interesting device. -- You will outgrow your usefulness. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Stadtteilgrenzen taggen?

2009-08-03 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:48:16 +0200, Matthias Versen s...@mversen.de wrote: 2. place=suburb als Fläche Normalerweise wird das place Tag nur für eine Nide genommen der die jeweilige Mitte des Gebietes ist. Dieses Aussage ist nicht korrekt. Ein Polygon ist hier durchaus üblich und gerne

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Stadtteilgrenzen taggen?

2009-08-03 Thread Tirkon
Jens Herrmann o...@bikelab.org wrote: wer kann mir sagen wie Stadtteilgrenzen getaggt werden? Vorsicht, das könnte ein rechtliches Problem sein, aber dazu weiter unten. Zunächst einmal müsste man erst einmal den Begriff Stadtteil definieren. 1) Da gibt es erstmal solche, die einen

Re: [Talk-de] All in one Germany - Straßennamen nicht mehr lesbar

2009-08-03 Thread Christoph Wagner
Sven Geggus schrieb: Christoph Wagner freemaps@googlemail.com wrote: Und vor allem warum es jetzt nicht mehr geht! Weiß da irgendjemand mehr? Ich hab mir mal svn log angesehen: r1071 | steve | 2009-07-02

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Stadtteilgrenzen taggen?

2009-08-03 Thread Tirkon
Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Jens Herrmann o...@bikelab.org wrote: wer kann mir sagen wie Stadtteilgrenzen getaggt werden? Vorsicht, das könnte ein rechtliches Problem sein, aber dazu weiter unten. Zunächst einmal müsste man erst einmal den Begriff Stadtteil definieren. 1) Da gibt es

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Stadtteilgrenzen taggen?

2009-08-03 Thread Sven Anders
Daher müsste man zunächst einmal definieren, wie diese unterschiedlichen Unterteilungen in der Daternbank deutlich gemacht werden können. Nun zur Ermittlung der Grenzen der Stadtteile/Ortsteile. Wie will man diese erfassen? Es gibt schließlich keine Grenzmarkierungen. Ohne die

Re: [Talk-de] Spuren anonymisieren?

2009-08-03 Thread geo.osm
Mirko Küster schrieb: Einfach irgendwas annhemen und lustig verschieben ist ehrlich gesagt für die Tonne. Hat bei mir in der Ecke diese Woche auch einer gemeint. Nach dessen toller Bearbeitung kratze die Uferstraße schon im Wasser und aus S Kurven wurden auf einmal Z Kurven. Hätte nur

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Stadtteilgrenzen taggen?

2009-08-03 Thread Tirkon
Sven Anders s...@anders-hamburg.de wrote: Stadtteilgrenzen unter Uhrheberrechtsschutz zu stellen ist IMHO Unfug. Im Grunde gebe ich Dir Recht. Aber ich sehe das mal analog zu der Erfassung der ÖPNV Routen und Haltestellen, wo es uns auch nicht gestattet ist, diese auf Grundlage der

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Stadtteilgrenzen taggen?

2009-08-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Sven Anders wrote: Stadtteilgrenzen unter Uhrheberrechtsschutz zu stellen ist IMHO Unfug. Stell dir mal vor was das für eine Presse gebe wenn die Stadt Hamburg einen OSM Mapper verglagt, weil er Stadtteilgrenzen abgemalt hat. Denke ich auch. Das Projekt verfolgt zwar generell die

Re: [Talk-de] Spuren anonymisieren?

2009-08-03 Thread Sven Sommerkamp
Am Sonntag, 2. August 2009 21:44:20 schrieb Stefan Schwan: Hi! Am 2. August 2009 16:18 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 1. August 2009 18:29 schrieb TeamAdiac teamad...@gmx.de: Am Samstag, den 01.08.2009, 16:44 +0200 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 1. August 2009

[Talk-de] Jakobsweg in Hamburg

2009-08-03 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin Moin ! der Zieltermin für das Jakobsweg-Projekt [1] kommt immer näher und in Hamburg ist noch ein Stück von ca. 2 km Länge [2] nicht geschlossen. Leider ist es mir aus beruflichen Gründen nicht möglich diese Strecke noch abzuradeln. Würde sich einer von Euch bereiterklären dieses

Re: [Talk-de] Klassifikation der Straßen - Highway

2009-08-03 Thread Tirkon
Garry garr...@gmx.de wrote: Dann sollte man auf der englischen Seite deutlich darauf hinweisen dass es landesspezifische Unterschiede geben kann (z.B. weil es die englische trunk gar nicht in Deutschland gibt, dafür aber die gelben Autobahnen) und die jeweilige landeseigene Seite berücksichtigt

Re: [Talk-de] F: Mapnik - Renderer

2009-08-03 Thread SLXViper
Andreas Neumann schrieb: Hi, k.A. ob ich hier richtig bin... Aber weiß jemand, warum in letzter Zeit der Renderer von Mapnik mal Multipolygone von Gebäude richtig darstellt und mal nicht? Genauer: Ich hab ein Haus mit Loch drin mit ner multipolygon-Relation. Läuft der Renderer drüber stellt

Re: [Talk-de] Jakobsweg in Hamburg

2009-08-03 Thread SLXViper
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: [2] http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/maps4osm.php?id=22zoom=14lat=53.53739lon=9.9485layers=B00T OT: was ist das denn für ein riesiger Overlay-Haufen? :o Gibt's da keine elegantere Möglichkeit dafür? Grüße

[Talk-de] Bericht Mapping-Party GIS-Camp

2009-08-03 Thread Kai Behncke
Liebe Leute, Die letzten beiden Tage waren eine schöne Sache. Über 40 Personen mappten in 2er Teams (per Auto, Fahrrad und zu Fuß) jeweils im Landkreis Tirschenreuth (Oberpfalz) in 26 unterschiedlichen Gemeinden, auch die Presse war vor Ort. Nachdem am Samstag vorrangig das Gebiet rund um

Re: [Talk-de] Jakobsweg in Hamburg

2009-08-03 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
moin ! OT: was ist das denn für ein riesiger Overlay-Haufen das ganze soll doch eine übersicht der mir bekannten Jakobswege sein - über den Schalter Relationen kömmst Du auf eine Übersicht. Gruß Jan :-) SLXViper schrieb: Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: [2]

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Stadtteilgrenzen taggen?

2009-08-03 Thread Tirkon
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Im Zweifel wuerde ich es drauf ankommen lassen, dass die Stadt mir einen boesen Brief schreibt - dann kann ich die Grenze immer noch loeschen und den Brief auf meine Webseite tun. Beim Austesten von Grenzen könnte leider selbst Letzteres problematisch

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