Re: [Talk-cz] Bylo: WeeklyOSM CZ 437 - bazény

2018-12-11 Thread Majka
Dobře, mazat se nebude. Ale je Vám všem jasné, že to označení jako soukromé patří na všechny ty zahradní bazény? Ne že by přes nějakých 95% nezmapoval fell3... 12. prosince 2018 6:48:39 SEČ, "Karel Volný" napsal: >čest práci, > > >maje nějakou nenulovou zkušenost s "paneláky naležato" a se

Re: [Talk-de] Rein unterirdische Gebäude?

2018-12-11 Thread sepp1974
Hallo Roland, m.M.n. wird building immer wieder und gern in diesem Zusammenhang falsch übersetzt. building steht für Bauwerk und für Gebäude. Im deutschen gibt es für beide zwei unterschiedliche Begriffe und von der Qualifikation ist ein Gebäude immer erstmal auch ein Bauwerk, wobei ein

Re: [Talk-cz] Bylo: WeeklyOSM CZ 437 - bazény

2018-12-11 Thread Karel Volný
čest práci, > Vzhledem k tomu, že lze hledat podle délky cesty, dají se ty soukromé > bazény docela dobře vyfiltrovat . Proto > znovu dávám k debatě, co s tím. Vzít ty hodně malé a vymazat (našlo mi do > obvodu 10m, tj. průměr zhruba do 3m asi polovinu z celkového

[Talk-de] Rein unterirdische Gebäude?

2018-12-11 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hallo zusammen, aus der Changeset-Diskussion https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/64670512 ist die Frage aufgekommen, ob eine Tiefgarage schon ein Gebäude darstellt, wenn die Zufahrt an einer Seite ebenerdig ist. Erschwerend kommt hinzu, dass der Betreiber die Tiefgarage "Parkhaus" nennt.

Re: [Talk-ca] Local groups? Digest, Vol 130, Issue 4

2018-12-11 Thread keith hartley
I think Canada has some great invested mappers, and resources but we're pretty far apart! We don't quite have the level of org like the US or europe has. As long as we can get the municipality on board with the proper license (IE OGL 2.0) we can take them on - IE one person did Regina in a matter

[talk-latam] OSMF elecciones 2018

2018-12-11 Thread Miriam Mapanauta
Hola/Oi mappers de OSM Latam Además de saludares les hago una invitación para que lean el manifiesto y las preguntas de los candidatos que estamos contendiendo a las elecciones de 2018 para ser parte del Board de la Fundación de OSM. Podrán votar aquellas personas que sean miembrxs dentro de las

Re: [Talk-cz] Bylo: WeeklyOSM CZ 437 - bazény

2018-12-11 Thread Pavel Machek
On Tue 2018-12-11 23:57:08, majka wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 22:56, xkomc...@centrum.cz > wrote: > > > Jojo, tak jsem se během mapping párty v Tišnově mrkl do své mobilní mapy > > (Locus) a říkal jsem si: "Kde je Majka, když ji člověk potřebuje?!". V > > tom... ehm ... nepořádku to jediné

[Talk-cz] Bylo: WeeklyOSM CZ 437 - bazény

2018-12-11 Thread majka
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 22:56, xkomc...@centrum.cz wrote: > Jojo, tak jsem se během mapping párty v Tišnově mrkl do své mobilní mapy > (Locus) a říkal jsem si: "Kde je Majka, když ji člověk potřebuje?!". V > tom... ehm ... nepořádku to jediné skutečné koupaliště není možné najít. > Tady jsem ;)

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] To Vote or not to Vote

2018-12-11 Thread deuzeffe
Et comme les archives de la liste sont publiques, même pas besoin de trop creuser pour pouvoir accuser les Français et les Françaises de bourrer les urnes ^^ -- deuzeffe Le 11/12/2018 à 22:36, Martin Noblecourt a écrit : Mon Dieu, un complot des Français qui après avoir adhéré en masse

Re: [Talk-ca] Local groups? Digest, Vol 130, Issue 4

2018-12-11 Thread john whelan
Sounds like we have perhaps four or five groups covering 3,700 municpalities so the best approach will be to list the areas available and to request basic tagging say building type and the number of levels from where ever we can get them. You never know mapillary may have some coverage. I'm

Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread Marián Kyral
On 11. 12. 18 22:50, Jan Macura wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 19:26, Marián Kyral > wrote: Opraveno. Díky za report. On 11. 12. 18 18:47, Jakub Jelen wrote: Narazil jsem na preklep v kategorii Nadace OSM, je slovo "volny" misto "volby". btw,

Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread Jan Macura
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 19:26, Marián Kyral wrote: > Opraveno. Díky za report. > > On 11. 12. 18 18:47, Jakub Jelen wrote: > > Narazil jsem na preklep v kategorii Nadace OSM, je slovo "volny" misto > "volby". > > btw, svahilština, svahilsky, atp. v češtině vše s jednoduchým V. Pokud o takové

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] To Vote or not to Vote

2018-12-11 Thread Jacques Lavignotte
Le 11/12/2018 à 22:36, Martin Noblecourt a écrit : Sinon l'information la plus "objective" possible est le questionnaire officiel et les manifestes des candidats publiés sur le Wiki, Je le ferai pour les Europé^H^H^H prochaines élections. J. -- GnuPg : C8F5B1E3 Because privacy matters.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] To Vote or not to Vote

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Noblecourt
Mon Dieu, un complot des Français qui après avoir adhéré en masse s'organisent pour diriger les votes :-D (je me moque gentiment de l'ambiance parfois un peu anxiogène de la liste OSMF ^^ ) Sinon l'information la plus "objective" possible est le questionnaire officiel et les manifestes des

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [A VOTé] To Vote or not to Vote

2018-12-11 Thread Jacques Lavignotte
Merci à tous, Jacques Le 11/12/2018 à 22:04, Vincent Privat a écrit : En français, Christian a fait un très bon boulot pour expliquer les enjeux, puis son vote: https://medium.com/@cq94/48h-pour-r%C3%A9-%C3%A9quilibrer-la-gouvernance-de-la-fondation-openstreetmap-906f3f648d27

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] To Vote or not to Vote

2018-12-11 Thread Vincent Privat
En français, Christian a fait un très bon boulot pour expliquer les enjeux, puis son vote: https://medium.com/@cq94/48h-pour-r%C3%A9-%C3%A9quilibrer-la-gouvernance-de-la-fondation-openstreetmap-906f3f648d27 https://medium.com/@cq94/election-osmf-2018-lheure-du-choix-bc4780315745 En anglais,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] To Vote or not to Vote

2018-12-11 Thread marc marc
Le 11.12.18 à 21:49, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit : > inquiétudes sur certaines tendances. avis perso : - le représentant d'HOT n'est pas indépendant même s'il croit l'être (je vois mal comment il pourrait voter contre une demande de HOT) - Guillaune et Joost ont un implication communautaire de

[OSM-talk-fr] To Vote or not to Vote

2018-12-11 Thread Jacques Lavignotte
[REMINDER] OpenStreetMap Foundation Election 2018 [kWrVt] Tout à fait nouveau ici je suis totalement ignorant des enjeux de ce vote. J'ai lu ici il ya quelque temps des inquiétudes sur certaines tendances. Sans demander des consignes de vote, peut-on me « guider » ? Réponse perso acceptées.

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapy.cz - spoluprace

2018-12-11 Thread Jan Macura
Ahoj, On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 16:00, Petr Vozdecký wrote: > asi by slo o pilotni projekt synchronizace dat "treti stranou" v CR, ktery > by byl postaveny tak, ze vznikla spolecna data by mela referencni zakladnu > v OSM databazi (alespon pokud je mi znamo). > super nápad, udělat z toho (pro

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 130, Issue 4

2018-12-11 Thread keith hartley
As far as I can tell there's a few of us in Manitoba. I have a small group that gets together every month to map out something! I know a few mappers in sask too, but nothing organized. Keith On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 6:01 AM wrote: > Send Talk-ca mailing list submissions to >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Liste pour la Polynésie

2018-12-11 Thread Violaine_Do
Merci Christian pour l'ouverture :) J'attendais qu'on soit au moins 2 :p AHA Bonne soirée à tous :) A + Le 06/12/2018 à 10:04, g...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour Violaine Merci pour l'info, et content d'avoir des nouvelles de là-bas. PS: J'ai consulté, la place du 1er post est encore à

Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread Marián Kyral
Opraveno. Díky za report. Marián On 11. 12. 18 18:47, Jakub Jelen wrote: Narazil jsem na preklep v kategorii Nadace OSM, je slovo "volny" misto "volby". Jakub On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 6:37 PM Marián Kyral > wrote: On 11. 12. 18 16:17, majka wrote: Díky za

Re: [Talk-TW] AED問題

2018-12-11 Thread Dennis Raylin Chen
Hi all 拖了有點久 如同先前的信件討論談的條件 移除未變動的AED https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/65383977 data.gov.tw 有份 AED 資料集 https://data.gov.tw/dataset/12063 有興趣的人可以動手處理匯入 至少知道AED放的地方是那裡 如有錯位還能更動放到對的位置 Dennis On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 3:34 PM Dennis Raylin Chen wrote: >

Re: [talk-au] Adding lane tags to major roads

2018-12-11 Thread Martijn van Exel
Thanks. Because you cannot edit the Overpass query for an existing challenge, I created a new one that has the LPI imagery as default backdrop. The challenge lives here: https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3387 It has 9800+ tasks.

Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread xkomc...@centrum.cz
No jo, z bronzové pozice v roce 2016 o jednu příčku níže na bramborovou 2017 a propad až sdílenou 10.-11. pozici prozatím letos. Měl by ses nad sebou zamyslet! ;-) Ale Tomáš a Majka se letos vyšvihli do první dvacítky, gratulki! On 11. 12. 18 18:38, Marián Kyral wrote: On 11. 12. 18 15:44,

Re: [Talk-it] importare dati osm su database

2018-12-11 Thread Daniele Forsi
Il giorno mar 11 dic 2018 alle ore 15:49 Roberto Brazzelli ha scritto: > quale delle 2 strade è più semplice? problema x-y: stai elencando delle soluzioni invece di spiegare qual è il tuo problema ("test con dati a livello comunale" non è una spiegazione sufficiente perché test diversi

Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread Jakub Jelen
Narazil jsem na preklep v kategorii Nadace OSM, je slovo "volny" misto "volby". Jakub On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 6:37 PM Marián Kyral wrote: > On 11. 12. 18 16:17, majka wrote: > > Díky za Weekly. > > Mimochodem je zmíněn Openstreetbrowser a nová kategorie plavání. Protože > zásahy kamaráda fell3

Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread Marián Kyral
On 11. 12. 18 15:44, Tom Ka wrote: Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 437 týdeníku WeeklyOSM: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/11081 * Analýza všech OSM mail listů. Koukám na to a letos se nějak moc flákám :-D Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list

Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread Marián Kyral
On 11. 12. 18 16:17, majka wrote: Díky za Weekly. Mimochodem je zmíněn Openstreetbrowser a nová kategorie plavání. Protože zásahy kamaráda fell3 nakonec nikdo neopravil, lezou z toho zajímavé věci . Netuším,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Soyons carto, contribuons au renouvellement des serveurs OSM-France

2018-12-11 Thread Donat ROBAUX
Bonsoir à tous, Nous venons aujourd'hui de passer le 1er palier de 4 000 € de dons à OpenStreetmap France nous permettant la mise à jour de 3 gros serveurs, dont un hébergeant des tuiles. En route pour le 2e palier à 5 000 € pour héberger encore plus d'orthophotos! Pour plus de détails et

Re: [Talk-cz] Znaceni uzavirek vs offline navigace

2018-12-11 Thread majka
Ne, tahle je to špatně. V iD je třeba "sjet" až do části "Všechny vlastnosti" a upravit to tam, tedy ručně vepsat. Pro jistotu jsem to zkontrolovala v JOSM, ale naprosto stejně jsem to zadala do iD. Mimochodem, je tam blbě o kousek dál ten průjezd Benzinou. Ta cesta skrz namá být indoor, opravím

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Rory McCann
On 11/12/2018 16:49, Jmapb wrote: On 12/11/2018 9:41 AM, Rory McCann wrote: On 11/12/2018 12:38, Tomas Straupis wrote:    If someone puts a label "Military academy" on their house, would we map it as an actual military academy? No, but you would put "addr:housename=Military academy".

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Imre Samu
> Vector tiles and customizable styling is not enough. > So we still need to represent the various viewpoints on disputed borders and territories within the OSM database itself agree, ( sorry, I am not good at communication. :)) as I wrote: Imho: an important part of the solution: -

Re: [Talk-cz] Znaceni uzavirek vs offline navigace

2018-12-11 Thread marek
Tak jsem to upravil, je to správně?  conditional = yes @  forward  ( nov - mar )   Marek Polák   __ Od: "mahdi1234" Komu: "OpenStreetMap Czech Republic" Datum: 10.12.2018 16:24 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Znaceni uzavirek vs offline

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Jmapb
On 12/11/2018 9:41 AM, Rory McCann wrote: On 11/12/2018 12:38, Tomas Straupis wrote:    If someone puts a label "Military academy" on their house, would we map it as an actual military academy? No, but you would put "addr:housename=Military academy". Sidebar, according to my reading of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Guillaume Rischard
> On 11 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > no, you could ask a diplomat of a country (or other parts of their > government) whom they recognize, or look up their public statements, these > are not secondary sources like wikipedia seems to prefer (I think), but it > would be

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:02 PM Imre Samu wrote: > TLDR: We need focusing for the customizable vector tiles for the next > year!( Less community fighting - more working on the real problems! ) > Vector tiles and customizable styling is not enough. AFAIK, we never use 3rd-party data

Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread majka
Díky za Weekly. Mimochodem je zmíněn Openstreetbrowser a nová kategorie plavání. Protože zásahy kamaráda fell3 nakonec nikdo neopravil, lezou z toho zajímavé věci . Netuším, jestli by z nás měli v Benešově nad Ploučnicí

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapovani cest se zarostlou casti

2018-12-11 Thread Miroslav Suchy
Dne 11. 12. 18 v 15:12 mahdi1234 napsal(a): > #1 - Odbocka z hlavni lesni cesty je zarostla naletem, jsou tam tenky > kminky, pesky normalne pruchozi; po cca 20 metrech pokracuje normalni > track (tzn 2m siroka) cesta ~1km Lesni cestu zarostlou naletem znacim jako highway=track a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 11.12.2018 o 14:59, Imre Samu pisze: > Imho:  there are other core values   > So we need to find a global optimum - and it is not easy. I agree. Thanks for checking our foundations. In day to day operations it's not possible to know every rule in OSM and it's not even needed, since some

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Tomas Straupis
2018-12-11, an, 16:41 Rory McCann rašė: > On 11/12/2018 12:38, Tomas Straupis wrote: >>If someone puts a label "Military academy" on their house, would we >> map it as an actual military academy? > > No, but you would put "addr:housename=Military academy". Well IF you know it is not

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapy.cz - spoluprace

2018-12-11 Thread Petr Vozdecký
ad SOS telefony asi by slo o pilotni projekt synchronizace dat "treti stranou" v CR, ktery by byl postaveny tak, ze vznikla spolecna data by mela referencni zakladnu v OSM databazi (alespon pokud je mi znamo). To vidim jako velmi zajimave vc. uplatneni zkusenosti z projektu postavnich schranek.

[Talk-it] importare dati osm su database

2018-12-11 Thread Roberto Brazzelli
Ciao, qualche consiglio per importare i dati di osm su database postgres su server cloud debian (test con dati a livello comunale): - osm2pgsql o imposm? - con entrambe le soluzioni riesco a sincronizzare i dati osm in automatico? - considerando che son neofita con linguaggio unix, quale delle 2

[Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 437

2018-12-11 Thread Tom Ka
Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 437 týdeníku WeeklyOSM: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/11081 * Postup zakládání OSM ČR z.s. * Kategorizace budov dle RUIAN. * Wikikonference v Olomouci. * Přejmenování potoků na Slovensku. * Pravidla organizovaných editací. * Analýza všech OSM mail listů. *

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Rory McCann
On 11/12/2018 12:38, Tomas Straupis wrote: If someone puts a label "Military academy" on their house, would we map it as an actual military academy? No, but you would put "addr:housename=Military academy". Sometimes governments won't put actual military installations on "official maps",

Re: [Talk-cz] Spolek OSM ČR z.s.

2018-12-11 Thread Petr Vozdecký
+1 -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Jan Macura Datum: 11. 12. 2018 v 11:16:27 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Spolek OSM ČR z.s.  díky. H. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk- c...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz

Re: [OSM-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 12/11/2018 2:39 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 11/12/2018 13:22, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: I would like to point out that in Ukraine displaying a map without Crimea is illegal, article 110, part 1, of the Penal code. It involves from 3 to 5 years of imprisonment [1]. So the OSM map without Crimea

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapovani cest se zarostlou casti

2018-12-11 Thread Jan Macura
Ahoj, řešil bych to jako Jirka. Navíc On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 15:11, mahdi1234 wrote: > Tady bych asi jen dal omezeni pouze pro pesi a resil pres visibility > horrible? > trail_visibility=horrible podle mě vůbec nikdo v ČR nemapuje jako cestu.

Re: [Talk-it] dati grezzi overpass turbo in qgis

2018-12-11 Thread Stefano
Il giorno mar 11 dic 2018 alle ore 10:12 Roberto Brazzelli < geom.brazze...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Ciao, > l'url generato con overppass turbo > esportando "dati grezzi direttamente da Overpass API >

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapovani cest se zarostlou casti

2018-12-11 Thread xkomc...@centrum.cz
Ahoj, já mapuji: 1) 20 metrů jako highway=path (pokud je uprostřed prošlapaná pěšina), dále highway=track 2) 200 metrů jako highway=path, na poslední node noexit=yes, zbytek nemapovat (i když - záleží: pokud je to hornatý terén a toto je sice s obtížemi, ale jediná "schůdná" cesta široko

[Talk-cz] Mapovani cest se zarostlou casti

2018-12-11 Thread mahdi1234
cau, Narazil jsem v posledni dobe na dve lesni cesty, kde si nejsu jistej presne jak zmapovat. #1 - Odbocka z hlavni lesni cesty je zarostla naletem, jsou tam tenky kminky, pesky normalne pruchozi; po cca 20 metrech pokracuje normalni track (tzn 2m siroka) cesta ~1km Tady bych asi jen dal

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Vladimir Agafonkin
> > And here you are disqualifying yourself from the discussion because you > essentially reject the possibility that OSM can function as a cross > cultural, cross ideology project to document the verifiable geography of > the world. If you don't think that is possible and think that OSM when >

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Imre Samu
>https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Mission_Statement says that OSM favours objective ‘Ground Truth’ over all other sources. :) Imho: there are other core values core1. *"We want to make the best map data set of the world"* ( With Ukraine! - I don't want an OSMUkraine-Exit forking OSM , like

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 11 December 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Which would mean the end of OSM verifiability as intersubjective > > verifiability based on observations in the real world in favor of > > Wikipedia verifiability based on 'reliable sources'. > > no, you could ask a diplomat of a country

Re: [Talk-it] FOSS4G It 2019

2018-12-11 Thread stefano campus
Mancano due giorni al termine della presentazione di interventi e workshop per FOSS4G Italia 2019. Affrettatevi... http://foss4g-it2019.gfoss.it/ https://easychair.org/cfp/foss4g_it_2019 s. -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Italy-General-f5324174.html

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Simon Poole
The involved parties typically want us to disseminate their truth and only that*. It is not a "why not", the proposals are simply trying to solve a different problem (that IMHO doesn't actually need to be solved, and will simply lead to us never having any working boundaries at all, but as said it

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 11. Dez. 2018 um 13:28 Uhr schrieb Christoph Hormann : > On Tuesday 11 December 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > That’s why we need a method in OSM to say which countries recognize a > > country/border, as it seems the most objective representation. > > Which would mean the end of

Re: [OSM-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Tom Hughes
On 11/12/2018 13:22, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: I would like to point out that in Ukraine displaying a map without Crimea is illegal, article 110, part 1, of the Penal code. It involves from 3 to 5 years of imprisonment [1]. So the OSM map without Crimea is becoming potentially unusable for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 11. Dez. 2018 um 13:57 Uhr schrieb Simon Poole : > > As Frederik pointed out a bit back, this is just kicking the can down > the road. > > We will still have to make choices and even if that is just to declare > that a boundary is disputed (which for example is definitely not > something

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 11.12.2018 o 13:26, Christoph Hormann pisze: > On Tuesday 11 December 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> That’s why we need a method in OSM to say which countries recognize a >> country/border, as it seems the most objective representation. > Which would mean the end of OSM verifiability

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Colin Smale
On 2018-12-11 13:53, Simon Poole wrote: > As Frederik pointed out a bit back, this is just kicking the can down > the road. > > We will still have to make choices Why? It would be better if OSM did not make choices, but represented differing points of view equally, without expressing any kind

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Harry Wood
Yeah it will be interesting to see what the board has to say about this in more detail. I think on the whole I'm glad the decision has gone this way. In my mind the case of Crimea has hung in the balance with very strong arguments in favour of both approaches. I have great respect for the way

Re: [Talk-it] Estrarre percorso

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 11. Dez. 2018 um 13:48 Uhr schrieb antonyb : > Nulla? > > hai provato a contattare loro? Non hanno aggiornato la parte del sito dove i dati sono pubblicati, ma quella ad uso per le loro mappe sì? La versione in OSM non è giusta? Ciao, Martin

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapy.cz - spoluprace

2018-12-11 Thread Jiří Sedláček
Ahoj, Wikidata resp. Wikimedia ČR resp. hlavně Vojta Dostál (náš předseda) s Mapy.cz taky cosi probíral, i Wikidata to zajímá. V jakém to je teď stavu, to si nevybavuju, Vojtu přidávám do diskuze, třeba ho to zaujme. J. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:38 AM Tom Ka wrote: > Ahoj, > > ozvali se z

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Simon Poole
As Frederik pointed out a bit back, this is just kicking the can down the road. We will still have to make choices and even if that is just to declare that a boundary is disputed (which for example is definitely not something RU agrees with in the case of Crimea) and those choices will be

Re: [Talk-it] Estrarre percorso

2018-12-11 Thread antonyb
Nulla? -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Italy-General-f5324174.html ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Vladimir Agafonkin
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 12:52 PM Guillaume Rischard wrote: > The on-the-ground rule has served us well on disputed borders: there is no > other reasonable and possible alternative. Creating an exception in Crimea, > without any justification, opens Pandora’s box. All of these statements are

Re: [talk-au] Adding lane tags to major roads

2018-12-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
I just checked again, it looks like you haven't corrected this yet, so a friendly reminder it would be nice to have this fixed. I think it's also a good idea to include the NSW LPI Imagery as the default background layer for this task. I just filed https://github.com/osmlab/maproulette3/issues/572

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 11 December 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > That’s why we need a method in OSM to say which countries recognize a > country/border, as it seems the most objective representation. Which would mean the end of OSM verifiability as intersubjective verifiability based on observations

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Milo van der Linden
I agree with what Guillaume says: "...how important it is that decisions are taken transparently. The detailed reasoning behind any decision must be published without delay." That in my opinion is key. There is no wrong or right in decision making as long as it can be explained (and reverted

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Victor Shcherb
I think, the problem that rule says "on-the-ground" and if it doesn't mean on-the-ground and people *cannot find it, * for example there is no sign at all like houses missing the number plate or abandonned houses or forest / national park divisions. Indeed, mail address is one of the possibility

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Tomas Straupis
2018-12-11, an, 13:27 Jochen Topf rašė: > It seems you haven't understood the on-the-ground rule 5 years ago and > you still haven't. For all intents and purposes there is such an > address. Mail will arrive there, people can find the house when looking > for it. Mail will not arrive there as

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 01:08:35PM +0200, Tomas Straupis wrote: > I had an actual situation 5 or so years ago when an address was > mapped in Vilnius. Address does not exist in official records. The > user sent me a picture of this house number. I contacted municipality > ant they explained that

[Talk-in] Koorachundu Grama Panchayat Mapping - reg.

2018-12-11 Thread Jaisen Nedumpala
It has been decided to conduct an an OpenStreetMap mapping exercise in Koorachundu Grama Panchayat from 22/12/2018 to 28/12/2018. Aim of this programme is to map the remaining resources in Koorachundu Grama Panchayat. The programme will be conducted with the coordinated technical support from the

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Tomas Straupis
> Note i have explained to Tomas in length the meaning of the concept of > verifiability for not directly physically manifested statements in > > http://blog.imagico.de/verifiability-and-the-wikipediarization-of-openstreetmap/#comments > > Using the example of a bus stop without signs or shelter i

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapy.cz - spoluprace

2018-12-11 Thread Jan Macura
Ahoj, On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 11:47, majka wrote: > Ty letecké mapy dávám spíš jen pro úplnost. Pokud vím, tak to od nikoho > jiného než od Prahy nemáme... > A Plzeň, viz: https://openstreetmap.cz/talkcz/c1984, https://openstreetmap.cz/talkcz/c2381, ale reálná využitelnost viz tamtéž... Musím

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapy.cz - spoluprace

2018-12-11 Thread Miroslav Suchy
Dne 11. 12. 18 v 11:47 majka napsal(a): > Nebylo by možné od nich dostat oficiální souhlas s využitím Panoramy nebo > leteckých map pro mapování? Minimalne letecke mapy nejsou jejich. V tomto probiha - uz nekolik let - zakulisni jednani, ktere nikdo ze zucastenych nechce zverjnovat, protoze by

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-12-11 11:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 11.12.2018 11:16, Andrew Hain wrote: A question both to the current board and the candidates: Do you support normal levels of Board transparency on this issue? Just as a "data point" in this discussion: There are people out there who are

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Tomas Straupis
2018-12-11, an, 12:06 Frederik Ramm rašė: > Non-physical (non-observable) things should definitely be the exception > in OSM, and it is my opinion that each class of non-physical things we > add needs a very good reason for adding them. I agree, but that is a different question. My suggestion

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 11 December 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Also, I think you are too fast in discounting the verifiability of > boundaries. Even in the absence of actual marked lines, fences, or > walls, you will often find the "reflections" that you speak of if you > look a bit closer: Which

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Guillaume Rischard
Hi Rory and fellow members, I am a candidate in the board election, and have underlined in my manifesto how important it is that decisions like this are taken transparently. The detailed reasoning behind this decision must be published without delay. The lobbying from Ukrainians over the last

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Komяpa
Hi Frederik, Can there be a transparency on death treats too? On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 1:42 PM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 11.12.2018 11:16, Andrew Hain wrote: > > A question both to the current board and the candidates: Do you support > > normal levels of Board transparency on this

Re: [Talk-cz] Mapy.cz - spoluprace

2018-12-11 Thread majka
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 10:38, Tom Ka wrote: > > Když narazíme na chybějící, tak je rovnou do OSM sami doplňujeme, > protože zde bude import a následná aktualizace jen via OSM. > > (na SOS telefonu lze na Panoramě přečíst i jejich označení, tak > doplňujeme i ref). > Nebylo by možné od nich

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11.12.2018 11:16, Andrew Hain wrote: > A question both to the current board and the candidates: Do you support > normal levels of Board transparency on this issue? Just as a "data point" in this discussion: There are people out there who are happy to issue death threats to anyone who is

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Andrew Hain
A question both to the current board and the candidates: Do you support normal levels of Board transparency on this issue? -- Andrew From: Martijn van Exel Sent: 10 December 2018 16:55:42 To: OSM Talk; OSMF Talk Cc: OSMF Board Subject: [Osmf-talk] Board decision

Re: [Talk-cz] Spolek OSM ČR z.s.

2018-12-11 Thread Jan Macura
 díky. H. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz https://openstreetmap.cz/talkcz

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11.12.2018 10:37, Tomas Straupis wrote: > 1. Non-physical objects are mapped by observing/verifying their > REFLECTION in physical world. ... > Opinion 1 would mean that we should remove all(most?) non-physical > objects: country, state, county, city, suburb, national/regional park >

Re: [Talk-it] dati grezzi overpass turbo in qgis

2018-12-11 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Umap legge eventuali dati da quesry overpass al caricamento e, tra le opzioni, lo può fare dinamicamente quando sfogli la mappa. Qgis non saprei come impostarlo affinchè legga direttamente i dati che arrivano da overpass... al limite puoi usare la stessa query caricata periodicamente con crontab

[OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-11 Thread Tomas Straupis
Hello I think we should settle the question of how "ground truth" or "verifiability" applies to NON-PHYSICAL objects (it is clear with physical objects). Because currently I see at least two opinions: 1. Non-physical objects are mapped by observing/verifying their REFLECTION in physical

Re: [Talk-de] Abschaltung "devserver" (gauss, humbolt und mercator)

2018-12-11 Thread Volker Schmidt
Was ist aus osmrm.openstreetmap.de geworden? Volker On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 at 19:46, Sven Geggus wrote: > Hallo zusammen, > > die Abschaltung der Strato-Server wird konkret. > > Weil es doch noch einige aktive Projekte gibt hat uns der FOSSGIS e.V. > Dankenswerterweise einen neuen Server

[Talk-cz] Mapy.cz - spoluprace

2018-12-11 Thread Tom Ka
Ahoj, ozvali se z mapy.cz, ze na nas nezapomeli. Krome chystanych rozcestniku pro interni potrebu a porovnani (viz. SotM CZ 2018) nabizeji i kilometrovniky pro dalnice: > Ladili jsme teď u nás i dálniční kilometrovníky (po 1 km), pokud máte zájem, > mohu také dodat. V OSM jsem našel jako

[Talk-cz] Spolek OSM ČR z.s.

2018-12-11 Thread Tom Ka
Ahoj, vcera jsem dostal posledni potrebne papiry, takze dneska jsem navrh na zalozeni spolku odnesl na rejstrikovy soud. Do tydne by melo byt vyjadreni - bud zapis nebo zadost o opravu/doplneni pokud se jim neco nebude libit. Dalsi krok bude bankovni ucet a pak proces prijeti dalsich clenu.

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11. Dec 2018, at 01:23, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Is it serious or some joke/hoax? it seems to be a significant shift at least, from following the on the ground rule as a general policy towards centralized top down decisions on a case by case basis by the board.

[Talk-it] dati grezzi overpass turbo in qgis

2018-12-11 Thread Roberto Brazzelli
Ciao, l'url generato con overppass turbo esportando "dati grezzi direttamente da Overpass API

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11. Dec 2018, at 02:18, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AivEQmfPpk if you haven't already seen > it for some of the gory detail. Makes a good statement at the end: „Ultimately, what makes a country a country, is if other countries