Re: [OSM-talk] Landuse areas etc. abutting highways

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 05/10/2009, at 8:18 PM, Marc Schütz wrote: IMO (a) is the correct way to do this. ... For a road, we can either choose to map it as a linear object (this is the common case), or we can map its geometry more exactly by using an area. In both cases, however, the object in our database

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 06/10/2009, at 10:58 PM, David Earl wrote: On 06/10/2009 13:35, James Livingston wrote: I can see things getting ickier than they are now if you can just go around adding new shop= values, without having some prior discussion to what it means. If I saw a suggested option

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL virality questions

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 06/10/2009, at 11:30 PM, Matt Amos wrote: so far, all the responses seem to indicate that everyone thinks linking to OSM data by ID is OK. what about Andy's idea, though? is it OK to take a location, name and possibly an ID as well to perform fuzzy linking? my view is that all the

Re: [OSM-talk] Instead of voting

2009-10-12 Thread James Livingston
On 11/10/2009, at 12:08 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: This proposal includes the deletion of all voting-related stuff including the casted votes of the past. I'd say that this helps prove the point that different people reading different things into what pages on the wiki say. The proposal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 10:19 PM, Mike Collinson wrote: - Whether friendly or unfriendly, they never have any obligation to merge in their data improvements into our database. - However, you or I can. Does that make sense? I completely agree that they don't have to do anything towards merging

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 10:19 PM, Ed Avis wrote: That was my interpretation too. It appears to me that if some well-meaning body released a set of data under the ODbL (which presumably we recommend as an appropriate licence for geodata) then the OSM project would not be able to use it. In other

Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for student project on OSM

2008-10-28 Thread James Stewart
Andy, Unfortunately it will be too late then. We h ave to seed them with ideas, which they choose fairly soon, in order to start next year, so we are looking for examples of projects to get them interested, rather than hope they get interested first, James On 28 Oct 2008, at 14:54, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] UK Industrial Estate Roads

2008-11-07 Thread James Stewart
', and are not really 'service' roads, which might apply to the roads within a private industrial complex. James Dr James Stewart Research centre for Social Sciences Institute for the Study of Science, Technology and Innovation University of Edinburgh http://www.issti.ed.ac.uk http://homepages.ed.ac.uk

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-22 Thread James Stewart
that Russia is better organised! Not much help, but good luck! James Hello all, I want to import populated place names from vmap0 for some regions of Russia. There are many blank areas in Russia without any data, so vmap0 data, especially place names can be a quite good basis for these regions

Re: [OSM-talk] tag for suburb of village

2009-03-24 Thread James Stewart
. In some ways the way that the name is rendered should be related to the tag is_in - so in general members of a place have names rendered smaller than the parent. But I am sure there are problems with this both theortical and practical. James On 24 Mar 2009, at 11:45, D Tucny wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Thread James Stewart
are in Scotland so bikes can legally go anywhere that pedestrians can go, more or less) James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] intermittent streams

2009-05-07 Thread James Stewart
streams in winter) James Dr James Stewart Research centre for Social Sciences Institute for the Study of Science, Technology and Innovation University of Edinburgh t: +44 131 650 6392 skype:jameskstew2 http://homepages.ed.ac.uk/jkstew/ LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesks http

Re: [OSM-talk] intermittent streams

2009-05-08 Thread James Stewart
, and streams that appear in storms - i.e. ephemeral. Is it worth reinvigorating a waterways proposal on this? James On 7 May 2009, at 19:37, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: r changing name and moving to a new town. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Greenways

2009-12-04 Thread James Stewart
seems to come up with a single cycle/ pedestrain path called 'The Greenway'. Best not use that tag unless it used a bit more widely. James Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:44:45 - From: Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Good routing vs legal routing

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-05 Thread James Livingston
On 06/12/2009, at 8:44 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote: Tom Hughes schrieb: Polling the OSMF members is just the first stage - there will another vote later when all contributors will be asked whether they want to relicense. With a gun at their head: Refuse: After the migration (currently 26th

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-05 Thread James Livingston
On 06/12/2009, at 10:05 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: James Livingston wrote: For example, I have inferred road positions from the CC-BY-licensed Queensland DCDB-lite dataset, and have uploaded national park and world-heritage areas from the CC-BY dataset on data.australia.gov.au. As I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Fwd: Re: Why PD is not better for business

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 11/12/2009, at 8:02 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: so we don't need imported data? In most cases we don't need imported data, but it can be useful. For example rather than painstakingly crafting the entire coastline of Australia from a few GPS traces and a lot of imagery (much is relatively

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Thread David James
; the national speed limit is different for single carriageways, dual carriageways, and motorways (though I think all motorways are explicitly signed with the relevant speed limit). The national speed limit has changed in the past. -- David James ___ talk

[OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving AND walking navigation

2010-02-15 Thread James Stewart
http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/36033/MWC-2010-Two-thirds-of-mobile-users-want-driving-AND-walking-navigation MWC 2010: Two thirds of mobile users want driving AND walking navigation by Stuart Dredge | Email a friend | PrintAdd a comment Two legs good, four tyres not necessarily better A

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of Marinas changed

2010-04-17 Thread David James
Patrick Kilian wrote: Hi all, IIRC there was a discussion in #osm which basically went like this: Hi Which forum do you mean by #osm? IRC channel I'd guess. -- David James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

[OSM-talk] transhumance routes

2010-06-03 Thread James Stewart
the routes are 'live'. In Spain they are historic, but many exist and are a point of controversy between landowners and ecologists/historical right of way people. James -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336

Re: [OSM-talk] Bug reporting problems (was: Big sponsors)

2010-06-18 Thread James Livingston
and experienced mappers alike) from accidentally breaking other things. I'd use it when uploading house numbers I've collected, since there would be no chance of me accidentally pressing a key and wondering what I just did. -- James ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-23 Thread James Livingston
On 23/06/2010, at 8:56 PM, Andy Allan wrote: Don't worry, it hasn't actually changed the meaning of anything - it's just that the wiki is now wrong. The easy way to fix the situation is to correct the wiki - it's as straightforward as that. You could argue the wiki is now wrong, but you could

Re: [OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers

2010-06-25 Thread James Livingston
. We're getting more Australian government data coming along, so what should we be doing to either know that it can be exempted or that we shouldn't import it? -- James Doc Livingston ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] new license use case questions

2010-07-09 Thread James Livingston
an algorithmic change, you just have to provide the algorithm. -- James ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-09 Thread James Livingston
On 09/07/2010, at 12:24 AM, Matt Amos wrote: I agree with Andy. This is what I understand the ODbL to be saying. Unfortunately, as with any legal text, its difficult to read and this is an unavoidable consequence of the legal system. If you need interpretation of the license, new or old,

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-14 Thread James Livingston
On 14/07/2010, at 10:28 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I'm no expert on this sort of thing, but there are probably a lot of well known pitfalls to avoid when trying to run an inclusive international project in many languages. I'd think having English-only discussion at a set time

Re: [OSM-talk] Defining critical mass...

2010-07-15 Thread James Livingston
On 14/07/2010, at 9:52 PM, John Smith wrote: On 14 July 2010 20:59, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: What do you suggest would be acceptable / unacceptable? I would consider things to fail if more than 5-10% of data disappears in any region. At the very least it would be demoralising

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-30 Thread James Livingston
-automatic or large scale things, I agree that good changeset comments shouldn't be difficult to write and would be very useful, but I'm not sure about small-scale editing when you go along with things. -- James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

2012-06-20 Thread James Mast
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:53:11 -0400 From: nice...@att.net To: talk@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM? On 6/13/2012 5:58 PM, Jonas Häggqvist wrote: Remove bing.attribution.xml from the cache dir:

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-22 Thread James Mast
in Canada)Montreal, Quebec, Canada -James___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-22 Thread James Mast
in Canada) Montreal, Quebec, Canada -James == On second thought, Nashville, TN would be a much better choice than Cleveland, OH. But I still also suggest the other cities I mentioned. Also add Miami, FL to that list. -James

[OSM-talk] OSRM

2012-08-03 Thread James Mast
edited in over 2 months. Thanks. --James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSRM

2012-08-04 Thread James Mast
Thanks for the link. And believe it or not, somebody has already reported this same bug. LOL!https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM/issues/354 So, no need for me to report it now. Still, thanks again for pointing me in the correct direction. ;) --James From: m...@rtijn.org Date: Fri, 3

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 - revert

2012-10-14 Thread James Mast
See: https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4622 -James Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 02:07:09 +0100 From: dave...@madasafish.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 - revert Hi I noticed that the edit in Potlatch 1 option has been removed from the Edit pull-down

[OSM-talk] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-24 Thread James Mast
them know about OSM pawning Google here. -James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-28 Thread James Mast
and they mentioned that there was a bridge collapse on an Interstate. -James (rickmastfan67) From: cliff...@snowandsnow.us Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 16:36:44 -0700 CC: talk@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

[OSM-talk] Re-opening a note if necessary?

2013-06-08 Thread James Mast
it didn't correctly fix the map. -James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Application error at openstreetmap.org

2013-07-14 Thread James Mast
Simple, something is wrong with the website. lol. I got nailed by it after I had typed up a long response to a PM. :( Seems everything else is working fine, just not the website. So, I'm thinking there were doing a change to the site, and it fubared it unfortunately. :( -James Date: Mon

Re: [OSM-talk] Application error at openstreetmap.org

2013-07-14 Thread James Mast
And now it's back up. :) -James From: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com To: stevag...@gmail.com; talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:58:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Application error at openstreetmap.org Simple, something is wrong with the website. lol. I got nailed by it after I

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread James Mast
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the long/short links to the map location behind buttons. Instead of just one click to get the map location, now it's two clicks and is really annoying and slowing down work for me. :( -James

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread James Mast
your e-mail arrived. I bet TomH will probably mark it as a duplicate very soon. lol. -James From: t...@macwright.org Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:09:27 -0400 To: dave...@madasafish.com CC: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls Hi James, That issue has been reported

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions about CTs 1.2.4

2011-04-19 Thread James Livingston
On 14/04/2011, at 6:57 PM, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: This method seems a much more satisfactory way of doing things to me -- assuming it could work legally (IANAL). We would still have the flexibility to re-license if we needed to without individual mappers being able to hold their data

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions about CTs 1.2.4

2011-04-19 Thread James Livingston
On 14/04/2011, at 8:06 AM, Francis Davey wrote: On 13 April 2011 22:24, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: * If so, how do we know what data must be removed in a switch to ODbL? That clause doesn't appear to put any obligation on you to remove data. All it requires of you

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread James Andrewartha
On 15 June 2011 11:56, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 10:39 +0800, James Andrewartha wrote: On 15 June 2011 09:36, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi all As promised

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread James Andrewartha
will be purged from the database in Phase 5. James Andrewartha ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-26 Thread James Hogan
of 40k for associatedStreet. Unfortunately the tools don't seem to understand it yet, e.g. searching for 19 third avenue, york, nominatum gets the wrong house: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1021672 Cheers James 2. the role=house should also work with closed ways and relations

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping of multiple-lane toll areas

2013-10-23 Thread James Mast
there are still Cash lanes, I'm betting the routers direct everybody onto the E-ZPass Express lanes. -James___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Key:highway it's talk page moved?

2013-11-26 Thread James Mast
Does anybody know why they were moved the other day on the wiki? I think it might have just been an honest mistake by the user, but is there any way to revert it so that the original history is back in place for Key:highway? -James

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:highway it's talk page moved?

2013-11-26 Thread James Mast
Pieren, I don't think it was moved back per say. It seems to me that somebody just copied the last good version from before the move and then pasted it over the redirect. Thus, that's why the history [1] the talk page [2] didn't return to the main page. -James [1] - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome box on the new map page

2013-11-30 Thread James Mast
the new feed link is for my watch area manually and updated it in my RSS feed reader [4]. Still, there needs to be some tweaks to the history part of the new design. -James [1] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets/feed?bbox=-80.54%2C40.358%2C-79.526%2C40.779 [2] - http

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-09 Thread James Mast
with this. There is now no way to link somebody to a specific page if a user has several questionable edits that aren't within his last ~20 edits. This is something IMO that needs to be brought back ASAP. -James

[OSM-talk] Interesting use of OSM data in Battlefield 4

2014-01-08 Thread James Mast
Virginia and it was exactly how I did it in the OSM data on the most recently opened segment of that highway. I just thought that this was interesting and wanted you guys to know about this. -James ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] MapQuest Open tiles not updating?

2014-03-11 Thread James Mast
See this tweet I got back from them asking the same question: https://twitter.com/MapQuestTech/status/436876342861512704 -James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Global Admin Boundary Extracts

2014-03-31 Thread James Conkling
Hi all, I've been trying to find the best way to extract global admin boundaries for admin_level 2 - 4 (or more, depending on size). Up until now, XAPI has been my go-to, but that seems to tap out at anything more than 10 or 20 degrees square. [moreover, and this might be due to a mistake on my

Re: [OSM-talk] High res DigitalGlobe imagery open for tracing through Mapbox Satellite

2014-04-11 Thread James Mast
and other interchange reconfigurations in the Statesville, NC area), but wanted to add the extra note info but couldn't since that part didn't show up. So, I hope you can get the notes part fixed and working. I tried it in both IE-11 (patched all the way) and Firefox Beta 29. -James

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread James Mast
I just hope that the 'tertiary_link' casing problem can be fixed soon. In some places, that looks horrible. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread James Mast
I just hope that the 'tertiary_link' casing problem can be fixed soon. In some places, that looks horrible. https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/753 -James

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread James Mast
in the future Martijn? -James [1] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22050738 [2] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22262496 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset comment function

2014-11-02 Thread James Mast
I like! Do you know if people comment on a changeset you make, will you automatically get an e-mail mentioning said comment, or will you be in the dark and have to stumble across said comment? -James ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Major licence violation by app myTrails?

2015-01-05 Thread James Mast
Here's the only mentions of 'OpenStreetMap' on their site: http://www.frogsparks.com/?s=openstreetmaplang=en ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Query Overpass for multiple small areas

2015-03-29 Thread James Conkling
Yup, exactly, I was running many small queries in parallel. Aggregating them into one query resolved it. If the query bbox grows too big--right now looking at ~60% of the DRC, but will need to expand the query to run across all of the Congo Basin--then I'll divide into country-sized queries but

Re: [OSM-talk] Query Overpass for multiple small areas

2015-03-27 Thread James Conkling
Yeah, that all makes sense. I had spent a lot of time trying to limit the area I was searching against, and the result was a *429 Too Many Requests* error. Thanks Bryce and Roland. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: Hi all, Was unsure what the

[OSM-talk] Query Overpass for multiple small areas

2015-03-26 Thread James Conkling
Hi all, Was unsure what the best practices for querying overpass were, and was wondering if someone could point me in a good direction. I'm trying to query Overpass for a small amount of data over many small, sparsely populated areas. Was wondering if it made more sense to run separate queries

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-01 Thread James Mast
a note for them to be field checked if the building design doesn't match any of the normal designs, or is inside a gas station/WalMart and can't be verified for sure since those locations can/do change often sometimes to another brand. -James

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] PennLive.com using OSM without attribution?

2015-04-15 Thread James Mast
It's been fixed. Thanks for handling the e-mail part Hans. -James From: hans.dekryge...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 05:55:34 -0700 To: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com CC: talk@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] PennLive.com using OSM without attribution? Just

[OSM-talk] PennLive.com using OSM without attribution?

2015-04-14 Thread James Mast
Turnpike. My question is, is this allowed with the current license, or do they still need to have the attribution on the image (or right below it)? If somebody that is more knowledgeable in this would like to contact them about this if they are in the wrong, please, be my guest. -James

[OSM-talk] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread James Mast
simple one-node intersections as-is)? I'm very curious to see what others have to say about this to see how I'll move forward when I map in the future. Also, don't hesitate to respond at the Google Group post or the GitHub one too as I get the e-mail notifications from them as well. -James

[OSM-talk] Is this legal to what philly.com is doing?

2018-02-22 Thread James Mast
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/will-republicans-impeach-pennsylvania-supreme-court-justices-20180222.html (ignore what the article is about) Just happen to see a thumbnail and clicked on the article since I noticed the OSM base map. Nowhere that I can find does it give credit to

[OSM-talk] State of the Map Africa 2019 LOGO Submission Deadline

2019-01-29 Thread James Magige
lid=IwAR21V_nmDDNPWg4pLDBqc7XmjwATOTQtlLD9slWEBFENEnMkBOO8TL4CiOc> Deadline for Submission: Thursday 31st Jan, 2019. Regards, *Magige **M. **James* *Environmental Planner and Manager* */GIS and Remote Sensing specialist. * *Kenyatta University* *phone no:+2540707

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

2020-05-25 Thread James Nyirenda
Greetings. I am one of the coordinators for the mSpray organized mapping. We are aware of the issues that have been raised and we are working on them. James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Is this relation really closed?

2010-03-31 Thread James Le Cuirot
and ST_IsClosed on the MultiLineString and they return false. Am I making a bad assumption here? I'll be in a lot of trouble if I don't figure this out soon so some help would be greatly appreciated. :) Thanks, James ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Is this relation really closed?

2010-03-31 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:28:09 +0100 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 March 2010 17:20, James Le Cuirot ch...@aura-online.co.uk wrote: The relationship analyzer says that the segment for Kent is closed. http://betaplace.emaitie.de/webapps.relation-analyzer/analyze.jsp

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Is this relation really closed?

2010-03-31 Thread James Le Cuirot
not quite sure. Is this likely to be a mistake? And if this isn't the right way to fix a self-intersection, what is? My edit is here. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4289465 James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Is this relation really closed?

2010-03-31 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:23:44 +0100 James Le Cuirot ch...@aura-online.co.uk wrote: And I have tried actually but that site is still reporting problems and PostGIS still isn't accepting it. I thought the problem was that the ways went back on themselves, though they didn't actually cross, so I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-10-01 Thread James Livingston
On 30/09/2009, at 1:00 AM, Matt Amos wrote: yes. but since there hasn't been any case law on what substantial means (at least in europe, yet) The reason I asked was because we had decision (Nine Network vs IceTV) from our High Court a few months ago, regarding the meaning of substantial

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 26/09/2009, at 3:02 AM, Mike Collinson wrote: - A very much re-worked Contributor Terms is now virtually complete and you can see a snapshot at http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_1kqzg8dhr . Something I just thought of that would probably be worth talking about - how does the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 6:12 AM, Mike Collinson wrote: We have now fully updated the OSM Contributors agreement section of the main proposal. I hope that meets concerns about clarity of the change-over process. http://www.osmfoundation.org/images/3/3c/License_Proposal.pdf A while ago on the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 09/12/2009, at 11:46 AM, Anthony wrote: A transfer of copyright is a transfer of exclusive rights. In the US, and probably in other jurisdictions as well, it must be signed and in writing. One key difference is that someone who is granted a nonexclusive license does not have the power

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 12/12/2009, at 7:07 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: But if the foundation wants to have copyright in the data I think it's trivial for it to have some by doing *some* of the maintenance edits on behalf of the foundation or one person (or more) transferring their rights instead of everyone

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person

2010-02-11 Thread James Livingston
On 11/02/2010, at 8:14 PM, Stefan Neufeind wrote: Agreed, trying to ask them would be a good thing. Has helped in some cases in the past where authorities (city government or the like) re-thought their license :-) The Australian Toilet Map data got discussed on talk-au back in December, and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL Use Case: comparing OSM and proprietary data

2010-06-15 Thread James Livingston
On 15/06/2010, at 7:24 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: 2. create a data set derived from OSM with number of road kilometres in each tile I'd argue that this step could be seen as creating a Produced Work not a derived database. Consider if you rendered a heat map of OSM where each pixel in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-13 Thread James Livingston
On 13/07/2010, at 10:47 PM, Richard Weait wrote: Anybody who can suggest a way to accurately predict the user numbers and data % and location and the extent where blank spots might arise should help us to allay these fears. But I think that there are simply too many variables to predict the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-16 Thread James Livingston
a number of Australian groups would disagree - including our government. -- James ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-16 Thread James Livingston
On 16/07/2010, at 6:28 PM, Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:53 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: There's only one undeniable fact in this whole affair. Exactly 100% of all contributors have signed up to CC-BY-SA and have indicated that they are willing to contribute their data under

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-17 Thread James Livingston
On 17/07/2010, at 4:12 AM, Simon Ward wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:01:08PM +1000, James Livingston wrote: * It also uses contract law, which makes things a *lot* more complicated Despite my strong bias towards copyleft, I thought this was a problem with the license. Unfortunately

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Upgrading to future ODbL version

2010-07-17 Thread James Livingston
On 17/07/2010, at 4:58 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: I noticed something that had escaped my attention until now. The contributor terms say that OSMF will release the data under ODbL 1.0, CC-BY-SA 2.0 or another free and open license accepted by 2/3 of active members. Notice the absence of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-17 Thread James Livingston
On 17/07/2010, at 6:34 PM, Heiko Jacobs wrote: Michael Barabanov schrieb: Consider two cases: 1. Current license does not cover the OSM data (I think that's the OSMF view). In this case, OSMF can just change to ODBL without asking anyone. 2. Current license does cover the OSM data.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-20 Thread James Livingston
On 20/07/2010, at 9:10 AM, Emilie Laffray wrote: To the best of my knowledge, violating a contract and making the data available doesn't make the data public domain. Indeed. The relevant question is then Is hosting a copy of ODbL licensed material (e.g. a planet dump) on your website without

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] To calm some waters - about Section 3

2010-08-26 Thread James Livingston
On 26/08/2010, at 2:12 AM, Simon Ward wrote: I don’t know if that’s how legal types read it, but couldn’t it also be taken transitively as follows: 1. CTs allow licensing under ODbL 1.0; 2. ODbL 1.0 allows licensing under a compatible licence, or later version of the ODbL; 3. By (1)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] To calm some waters - about Section 3

2010-08-26 Thread James Livingston
On 25/08/2010, at 5:41 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: There is also a very practical reason against fixing anything, and *specifically* a share-alike requirement, in the CT, and that is that in order to make *clear* what you want you will have to write half a license into the CT. I completely

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence Implementation plan - declines or non-responses

2010-08-30 Thread James Livingston
On 30/08/2010, at 10:03 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: If the majority of the community (including OSMF and the sysads who run the servers) agrees with the license change, why should the onus of forking be on the license-change agreers? If this is indeed the case, then the ones who should

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-30 Thread James Livingston
forcing them to make it available in such as way that a contract would be formed. Host a copy of the planet or an extract for people to download with just a link, and I would think that you'd get a contract of adhesion at best, and that concept doesn't exist in some places. IANAL, etc - James

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-08-30 Thread James Livingston
On 30/08/2010, at 3:24 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I think that was already sorted out under the issue of wikipedia point importing, the OSM data is under the jurisdiction of England and has to obey english copyright law. no? No, people are bound by the copyright law where they

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] To calm some waters - about Section 3

2010-08-30 Thread James Livingston
On 27/08/2010, at 1:36 AM, Anthony wrote: Or you could just assign the task of deciding what it means to someone. Whether or not a future license is share alike shall be determined by a vote of the OSMF board. Sure, except I don't know that will really help. If people want certainty that all

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Garmin Maps / Produced Works

2010-09-07 Thread James Livingston
On 04/09/2010, at 10:30 PM, Rob Myers wrote: If it absolutely has to be one thing or the other I'd say it is a Produced Work. Does it have to be though? I can't see anything in the ODbL that says Derived Database and Produced Work are mutually exclusive. A produced work is: a work (such as

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-04 Thread James Livingston
on my account into those I can agree for and those I can't? and what licenses are the CTs compatible with? ? 3) On the above, how do I split the edits on my account? -- James Livingston ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http

[OSM-legal-talk] Acceptable licences and splitting account edits

2011-04-13 Thread James Livingston
anywhere? If not, can we get good answers and add them to a FAQ? -- James ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-05 Thread James Livingston
? -- James ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-05 Thread James Livingston
the licence isn't quite the same. I for example have had to say No, because you now have to give an answer to edit, but would almost certainly change that to a Yes at the last minute (subject to figure out how to split incompatible data into it's own account). -- James

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