Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec attributes (roads)

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/9/2016 2:34 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: The conflation engine takes OSM PBF as input, so the Canvec shapefiles would need to be translated (using ogr2osm). The CanVec we've used in the past has been supplied in OSM XML format. No one has proposed a new import with a different format, so

Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap at the Crossroads – The Map Room

2016-08-17 Thread Paul Norman
ue you can escalate it to the Data Working Group by emailing d...@osmfoundation.org. We have some additional tools we can use. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno Parcels Deletion proposal

2016-11-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/26/2016 2:43 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: Hi All - people are invited to see a blog post on the topic of Fresno County landuse=residential legal records, aka PARCEL. You can find the blog address in my signature. thanks very much I've long supported cleaning up the Fresno import

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping inside airports

2016-11-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/16/2016 8:23 PM, Kevin Morgan wrote: Has any one had any issues with airport security as a result of mapping features inside US airports? No. When airport mapping I'm either - walking around, focused on my phone and periodically looking up and inputting stuff into it. This is now

Re: [Talk-GB] Technical Help

2016-11-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/28/2016 5:28 AM, Brian Prangle wrote: There's a small amount of seed funding and we need to size a server and storage that will serve OSM tiles for the West Midlands (Geofabrik's download is 37MB for an osm.pbf file). We would need a production server with an initial guesstimate hit

Re: [Talk-ca] Road route relations: network tag

2016-10-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/27/2016 3:04 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: My mapping colleagues (not me, I only map in my spare time :)) noted that there are some irregular network tags on highways in Canada. The usual hierarchical notation[1] is in place in many relations, but we encountered deviations from that

Re: [Talk-us] Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest (landuse=forest and US National forests again)

2016-11-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/29/2016 7:14 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: All I know of the area is"lots of parts of it do have lots of trees", but does the landuse=forest assignment make sense on the National Forest boundary, or should it be on the forested areas within? I mention this here rather because I'm sure there

Re: [Talk-us] manifesto

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/30/2016 9:30 AM, mart...@openstreetmap.us wrote: It is also not too late to become a candidate for the board elections. Let us know at bo...@openstreetmap.us if you have any questions. The wiki says nominations closed on the 27th, and candidates needed to

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/22/2016 3:21 PM, James wrote: As pnorman has said in the past( https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-September/007260.html): / Uploaded in small enough parts that the changesets make sense. This means never uploading more than 50k objects at once, and typically fewer

[Talk-ca] Vancouver mappy hour

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Norman
Starting this year, we're aiming to have monthly mappy hours in Vancouver, on the 4th Friday of each month. The next one is Friday March 24th, near Metrotown at 6:30 PM at the Firefighters' Public House. This is convenient to transit Full details are at

[Talk-GB] Local chapter application by OpenStreetMap United Kingdom

2017-04-16 Thread Paul Norman
. More information on local chapters can be found at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/FAQ Paul Norman OpenStreetMap Foundation Name & Registered Office: Openstreetmap Foundation 132 Maney Hill Road Sutton Coldfield B72 1JU United Kingdom A company limited by guarantee, regist

[OSM-talk-ie] Local chapter application by OpenStreetMap United Kingdom

2017-04-16 Thread Paul Norman
://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Template_agreement. More information on local chapters can be found at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/FAQ Paul Norman OpenStreetMap Foundation Name & Registered Office: Openstreetmap Foundation 132 Maney Hill Road Sutton Coldfield B72

Re: [Talk-us] Sabotage or a really bad bot?

2017-04-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: I came across a really weird situation while doing a Maproulette change. In Rustberg, a small town in rural Virginia (http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/37.2772/-79.1011), almost every driveway has been named after

Re: [Talk-us] natural=* and landuse=* multipolygons at the urban interface

2017-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/13/2017 4:34 PM, Steve Friedl wrote: You’re right that splitting this up is the right approach, because I don’t believe having all this as one huge relation was every the right thing to do as I cannot see how the related-ness of all the scrub patches in a very wide area is useful

Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import

2017-05-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/27/2017 12:26 PM, Brian Prangle wrote: Apart from some posts about the problems with email notifications of changeset discussions, there has been nothing to indicate where I take this import. I guess that's because the initative is really down to me. I've annotated Harry's Import wiki

Re: [Talk-us] guidelines regarding roads access

2017-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/14/2017 12:23 AM, David Wisbey wrote: I limit the use of "residential" to typical residential city or town government-maintained streets. I use "living street" for residential streets that are completely open to the public but not maintained by the local or state government; they

Re: [Talk-us] Texas - redacted roads.

2017-10-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/12/2017 6:54 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Should we (in OSM) put what the user will probably search for, the correect (hypothetically) Redwil or should we put the "ground truth" (REED WILL) which is what the user will see if he acually ever makes it to that location. Although this has

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-11-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/3/2017 10:51 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote: Philip, the shell.co.uk website gives the same opening hours for the Branting Hill station as the source dataset. Basically, everything in the dataset is the same, except for locations, which have been improved by the Navads team. What percentage of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-07 12:19 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: The idea that you can produce a data set using both OSM and non-OSM data in a meaningful way without there being either a collective or a derivative database seems fundamentally at odds with the basic concept of the ODbL. The only way this could

[Talk-ca] Terminating British Columbia Mosaic imagery

2018-06-13 Thread Paul Norman
I will be shutting down the "British Columbia Mosaic" imagery in the near or medium future. I set this up in about 2011, and the system has been running without many updates since then. When I started hosting it, we had access to Bing and Yahoo. Between the two of them, we had acceptable for

Re: [Talk-us] Slack: Do we need an Alternative (was Planning an import in Price George...)

2018-06-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-09 1:19 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Apart from the reasons you mentioned, having a record is also an important factor. Anything that has gone on on these mailing lists is practically archived forever and for all to see This is also a good reason to ask questions on something other than

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/8/2018 10:53 AM, Jack Burke wrote: I'll leave it to others to decide what, if anything, we should do about this. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/05/leonia-streets-off-navigational-apps/ If they actually go through with it, access=destination on the applicable streets, or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Interesting use case of combining OSM with proprietary data

2018-01-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/11/2018 7:30 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: My interpretation of the ODbL here is that this is a share-alike case that would require the combined data sources to be made available. But you could probably also look at it differently. I would like to hear opinions on this. In particular if

Re: [Talk-us] Satus CDP

2018-02-26 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/26/2018 4:59 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: In the middle of the Yakama Nation Indian Reservation sits Satus [1] that as far as I know only exists in some Census bureaucrat world. Asking around here I haven't found anyone familiar with the area. Wikipedia [2] doesn't help much either. I'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-07-10 12:30 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: I think it's a positive. One of the biggest issues with large-scale use of OSM is that OSM's own tile server isn't suited for high-volume use, but most of the alternative tile servers are rate-limited and require payment for larger volumes. If

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-07-10 2:00 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: ESRI's free maps can be accessed as server-side tiles. See Leaflet-providers for some examples: https://leaflet-extras.github.io/leaflet-providers/preview/ I'm not sure of the licence restrictions which apply to them, or any rate limits. But, from a

Re: [Diversity-talk] Who Maps The World

2018-03-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/14/2018 6:47 PM, alyssa wright wrote: Hi all, City Lab article below on gender disparity in OSM. I actually think things have evolved and are more nuanced then ever before. Wondering if I am being naive. Yes - part of the thesis of the article is based around the claims of what gets

Re: [Talk-GB] Petrol stations again

2018-03-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/8/2018 1:28 PM, SK53 wrote: Remarks about individual items to be added which I have examined (mainly, I thin, for Ilya's benefit): Were the 8 errors from the full set of 400, or a subsample of them? ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Diversity-talk] Idea: Quarterly Projects for a traditionally underrepresented topic(s)/groups?

2018-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/26/2018 1:24 PM, Rory McCann wrote: Any ideas for topics? Some ideas - Regional languages. Is there a regional language you speak? Make sure that you're adding it to the map when objects have a name in that language. Unfortunately, this isn't great for a global project because not

Re: [Diversity-talk] Who Maps The World

2018-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/18/2018 3:23 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Paul, A kindergarten is a school, not a child-care center. They are two fundamentally different things. Also, child-care centers serve a range of ages, not just 5-year-olds. I, too, tried to find a real child-care tag a few months ago. There is

Re: [Diversity-talk] Code of Conduct & Moderation for this list

2018-03-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/28/2018 2:44 AM, Rory McCann wrote: Hi all, To follow up on the phone call, and waiting a little bit for people to join.  I think this list should have a Code of Conduct. I propose something like Geek Feminism's one. Thoughts?

Re: [Talk-us] Help fight advertising

2018-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/2/2018 9:40 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: Sorry for the late posting - I've been working on another project for the past few days. Frederik wrote "You will be surprised about the breadth of marketing blurb that has already crept into OSM." Unfortunately no, I'm not surprised. Marketing is a

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Paul Norman via talk
JOSM has also done the same, and gone farther with creating new tags on its issue tracker.Developing an editor requires making decisions and having opinions on OSM tagging. This in turn means getting it wrong sometimes.On Apr 7, 2019 5:43 AM, John Whelan wrote: I note that the matter has been

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-02-28 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2019-02-28 2:35 p.m., Richard Fairhurst wrote: In recent years some OSM data consumers and "OSM as a service" providers have begun to put the credit to OpenStreetMap behind an click-through 'About', 'Credits', 'Legal' or '(i)' link. Examples:

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2019-02-26 6:05 a.m., Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, when I first read about this planned edit, I was critical too; I thought, "ah, another eager youngster wanting to make the world a more secure place by telling everyone else how they ought to conduct their business". But if I haven't totally

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.21.0

2019-05-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v4.21.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Removed unused

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.22.0

2019-08-27 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v4.22.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Shop label fixes and use

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.0.0

2020-03-18 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v5.0.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - An update to Lua tag transforms,

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.0.0

2020-03-19 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-03-19 1:18 a.m., Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: On 19.03.20 02:07, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: All style users who upgrade to v5.0.0 should re-import the rendering database so that the changes to lua transformations will take effect. As I'm running a "render as many styles as possible"

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-07-01 1:42 p.m., Frederik Ramm wrote: + I have seen a couple of different postgresql config suggestions. Is there a one-size fits all or should I tailor it more to my server's configuration. Most configs you see will be for earlier Postgres versions and hence not necessarily valid for

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-07-01 3:28 p.m., Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 1. Jul 2020, at 23:26, Paul Norman via talk wrote: In general, work_mem=128GB is good with most styles. Paul, he wrote he had 32GB of RAM, should one assign more work_mem than there physically is on the machine? I

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

2019-03-21 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-us
As a maintainer of some of the projects listed, I find that you're misrepresenting the situation. On 2019-03-08 11:25 a.m., Kevin Kenny wrote: I've sounded out the maintainers of various of the OSM software, and get different assessments. osm2pgsql - Actively hostile to supporting what I need,

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-ca
On 2019-03-15 9:07 a.m., Andrew Lester wrote: I disagree. Silence won't solve anything. I'm speaking here as a local BC mapper, and I strongly disagree with these recent imports. I'm also a BC mapper, and have only seen the consultation happen over Ontario, not BC.

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2019-04-30 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-ca
The sources of the data are different in different regions, as well as the existing communities. A Canada-wide process won't work when each import is going to vary.On Apr 27, 2019 1:40 PM, john whelan wrote:We now have three sources of data with the correct licensing.I'm proposing that I amend

Re: [talk-au] Ways to map boundaries that won't go into OSM

2019-07-01 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2019-06-16 10:26 p.m., Ben Kelley wrote: Hi. A project I have been thinking about for a while is creating a map of Anglican (church) parish boundaries in Australia. In some sense these are like admin boundaries, but the source of the boundary is not easily verifiable. While the resulting

Re: [Talk-us] Request for review of plan for scripted edit

2019-08-08 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-us
Given the low numbers of 7-digit numbers I recommend correcting them manually rather than writing code to do it.On Aug 8, 2019 2:02 PM, Alex Hennings wrote:Fixed: references -> relations.Noted: "False impression of data freshness". I hadn't considered this and I would like more opinions.Regarding

Re: [Talk-us] What is the meaning of hgv:national_network=yes/terminal_access?

2019-08-05 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-us
On 2019-08-04 7:56 a.m., Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I've found this undocumented tag, used 130,000 times, almost exclusively in the USA. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/hgv%3Anational_network#overview Values: yes 86.56% terminal_access 13.37% I thought it might be imported from Tiger,

Re: [Talk-us] Coconino National Forest boundary isn't rendering anymore?

2020-07-15 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-us
On 2020-07-15 3:00 p.m., Paul White wrote: Does anybody know why the Coconino National Forest doesn't render on osm.org anymore? I don't see any recent changes that would've messed anything up but it's gone. I also noticed that the Klamath National Forest is gone, as well. I

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

2021-10-28 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2021-10-28 8:05 p.m., osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: If it exists on the ground, it gets mapped. If there is no legal access, that's access=no or access=private. If it's a path that has been created by traffic where it's not officially meant to go, it's informal=yes. Yep, this

Re: [talk-au] Multiple web sites linked to car yard

2022-07-28 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2022-07-28 4:22 p.m., Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I saw something similar a little while back when clearing Notes. Same physical premises had 2 businesses operating out of it, one as general scrap metal & the other a car wrecker, but two different names, phone numbers & websites. OK or

Re: [talk-au] Multiple web sites linked to car yard

2022-07-28 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2022-07-28 12:29 a.m., nwastra wrote: This mapper has added about a dozen similar businesses to the same car wrecker yard. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/freecarpickup/history#map=19/-33.93048/150.99878 I assume this is ok as they are linked to the same physical location. It's not okay

Re: [talk-au] OSM Attribution Q

2022-08-14 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2022-08-14 3:23 a.m., Bob Cameron wrote: I likely have this wrong, but worth a question. Looking at petrolspy.com.au website for Theodore Qld and note that the sport and rec ground shows a remarkable similarity to the changes/updates I did 10 months ago, right down to the service road

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