[Talk-ca] Fixing an old typo...

2015-10-14 Thread Colin McGregor
Ran across the following story about the City of Ottawa fixing a 68
year old typo. in a street name:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/feriand-street-renaming-comes-68-years-after-typo-1.3270002

Being the SOB that I am I have fixed the typo. on OSM, so what is in
OSM matches the official name, NOT what the local residents want :-) .

All the best :-) .

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[Talk-ca] OSM in Metro Toronto

2015-10-13 Thread Colin McGregor
FYI:

There is a short piece in today's "Metro Toronto" (free newspaper) on
page 11 about an OSM mapping event tomorrow (October 14th, 2015) at
the Centre for Social Innovation. Regrettably I have another event
scheduled tomorrow evening, so I can't go, but I would recommend that
everyone who can go, do so.

All the best.



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Re: [Talk-ca] Toronto OpenStreetMap events May 2015

2015-05-11 Thread Colin McGregor
Some words of warning regarding GTALug. I was involved with GTALug for
over 15 years, then in December of 2013 members of the GTALug started
a campaign that basically made it clear that I am to be the ongoing
target of abuse. I don't know what rule(s) I broke or what I did, but
essentially all communications I've received from them over the last
1.5 years have been crafted to make it clear I am hated.

Bottom line, stay away from GTALug, they are a bunch of nasty vicious people.


Colin McGregor


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 Mappy Hour (Tonight!)
 Monday 11 May 2015
 http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Toronto/events/52392/

 - Meet and discuss OpenStreetMap topics over refreshments. Newcomers
 welcome.  Questions welcome.


 OpenStreetMap presentation by Stewart Russell
 Tuesday 12 May 2015
 http://gtalug.org/meeting/2015-05/

 - Formal presentation including Question and Answer.


 #maptime
 Thursday 28 May 2015
 http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Toronto/events/221436512/

 - Collaborative projects, peer coaching and discussion.  Newcomers
 welcome.  Bring your computer to work on your projects.


 See you there!

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Re: [Talk-ca] Speaker wanted: Toronto

2015-02-24 Thread Colin McGregor
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 There is a Toronto GNU/Linux group seeking a speaker on OpenStreetMap
 for their event in either April or May.  Let me know if you are
 interested.

No, stay away. I don't want others to get hurt by that bunch the way
they hurt me.

I was involved with that group for over 15 years, but a year ago
December the executive decided to start pouring contempt on me for
reason I might be told some day. Since late February of last year ALL
I have heard from the Toronto GNU/Linux is a mix of contempt and a
smattering of hate. Bottom line, trying to help them isn't worth the
pain...


Colin McGregor

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[Talk-ca] OSM Gets Routing

2015-02-17 Thread Colin McGregor
FYI:

OSM is now offering routing on the main page... Details to be seen here:

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2015/02/16/routing-on-openstreetmap-org/

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Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings

2014-03-10 Thread Colin McGregor
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey all,

 Quick question regarding tagging buildings. I've come across several that
 are owned and maintained by a local telecom company. These are buildings,
 usually located in residential areas, look somewhat like houses, but are
 there to provide switching and distribution of communications equipment
 (telephone, Internet, etc). What should these be tagged as? My assumption
 would be building = yes and a Works = tag. Thoughts?

 Adam


Excellent question that I would love an answer for.

In similar fashion our local electric power company (Toronto Hydro) has put
up a number of houses (and other buildings), basically fake building
shells to hide electrical transformers (with signs on/beside the door
noting the building ownership and warning of possible electrocution to
trespassers (in other words the buildings and their role is not super
secret, but also not announced loudly). How should these building shells be
tagged?

Colin.
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[Talk-ca] Mapping mappers...

2013-09-26 Thread Colin McGregor
This is kind of neat, the story of a map of mappers, tracking who maps
where in Open Street Map:

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/technology/2013/09/mapping-worlds-mapmakers-65000-hues/7018/



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[Talk-ca] Odd use for OSM data...

2013-07-30 Thread Colin McGregor
Here is an odd use for Open Street Map data... One man in the UK
wanted to know What are the most popular names for pubs in the United
Kingdom?. Using Open Street Map data he could find that out and he
explains how he did that here :
http://blog.mongodb.org/post/56876800071/the-most-popular-pub-names .

For those not willing to read the entire article here is the answer he found:

1. The Red Lion
2. The Royal Oak
3. The Crown
4. The White Hart
5. The White Horse

The process described could be easily adapted to any repeating
information anywhere, like most popular street name in Canada or...

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Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...

2013-06-26 Thread Colin McGregor
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
 If you want to see it, then a universal mobile phone mount that sticks to
 the windscreen is probably the easiest.

Thanks.

 If you are just logging, drop it in one of the centre trays, under the
 handbrake tends to work best.

My focus is logging, but... Last week I was in eastern Ontario with
access to my mother's car, and the question was how do I make maximum
impact with minimal amounts of time. So, I did data capture for a new
housing development, where there is a new gravel road in place (and a
big sign announcing Lots for sale (I recorded where the gravel road
was, I didn't make any effort to record where the planned lots are)),
and a small lane way that has a few lakeside cottages on it. In
addition to the two new to the map road/lane I saw something that I
didn't realize until I got home was already on the map (mind you there
was a bit that I saw that doesn't seem to match what is on the map, so
I will have to double check that next time I am in eastern Ontario
before making edits (*))

In other words I want to be able to look out the windshield and any
time I see something that doesn't match what is in OSM (because of new
developments or errors in the OSM database) be able to collect data...
So, being able to glance at the screen is desirable. Also, since I
don't get a chance to try this often, how well do GPSs work from the
centre console (ie: cup holders), as I know they do a great job of
detecting satellites under the front windshield, but I am worried
about further inside the car (and under a metal roof)?

Colin McGregor



(*) Last week I went down Elm Crest Lane, just north of Rideau Lake,
and Elm Crest Lane doesn't appear to connect to Wild Grape Lane /
Rideau Lake Road. As I say, I want to double check that next time I am
in eastern Ontario...

 Phil (trigpoint)

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 On 26/06/2013 14:35 Colin McGregor wrote:

 I don't own a car, but I do occasionally drive one owned by family
 members and on very rare occasions rent cars. The question is, when in
 a car, how best to mount a pocket GPS (a Garmin eTrex 20) on the dash
 that will keep the GPS from sliding around? The solution can not
 require any permanent change to the car, should not leave any sort of
 a mark when removed and ideally should be just as small / smaller than
 the GPS itself. Ideas (where names of specific makes/models would be
 appreciated)?

 Thanks.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...

2013-06-26 Thread Colin McGregor
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB)
bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote:
 Colin,

 I just recently bought a Garmin eTrex 20 as well and I also need a 
 mount for my car.  I jury rigged a mount for my eTrex 20 using an existing 
 mini clipboard that has a suction cup to mount on the windshield.  I removed 
 the paper from the mini clipboard and then I created a small pocket for the 
 eTrex 20 from cardboard and duct tape.  I used double faced tape and more 
 duct tape to attach the pocket to the mini clipboard.  It is a little larger 
 than necessary but it does the trick and it cost next to nothing.  I'll snap 
 a photo and send it later.

Thanks.

 BTW, I have also loaded my eTrex 20 with maps from OSM Maps - 
 http://www.osmmaps.com/

Yes, likewise. For the cost of a microSD card you can have fairly
current (within the last few weeks) OSM maps on your Garmin (this
feature is why I went with the eTrex 20 over the somewhat less
expensive eTrex 10). I've got a 8 GB microSD card installed for
storing OSM maps, even though a 2 GB microSD card would do for all of
Canada, but finding a 2GB card this days is a challenge, and with 8 GB
cards selling for under $10 not worth the effort to hunt down the
small capacity cards...

 Bernie.

 -Original Message-
 From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, 2013-06-26 10:48
 To: Colin McGregor
 Cc: talk-ca
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...

 You'll probably want one of those windshield suction mounts, something
 like this 
 http://www.mountguys.com/Cup_Suction_Mount_for_Garmin_eTrex_Dakota_Oregon_p/mfx-wingn-11023.htm
 (note that this is just a randomly googled one and I can't comment on
 the quality). Because they need adjustability and enough surface on
 the windshield, it's not smaller than your GPS. But I don't think any
 other type of mounting system can fulfill all of the other criteria.

  Harald.

 On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't own a car, but I do occasionally drive one owned by family
 members and on very rare occasions rent cars. The question is, when in
 a car, how best to mount a pocket GPS (a Garmin eTrex 20) on the dash
 that will keep the GPS from sliding around? The solution can not
 require any permanent change to the car, should not leave any sort of
 a mark when removed and ideally should be just as small / smaller than
 the GPS itself. Ideas (where names of specific makes/models would be
 appreciated)?

 Thanks.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...

2013-06-26 Thread Colin McGregor
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting thought. What sort of fabric (I am thinking that some
 fabrics would make things worse (silk? polyester?))? How large? Also,
 how well does it work?

 It works brilliantly.  It's Mom-made, so, of course, it's perfect.  :)

Always the case :-) .

 The non-skid portion is, I think, the same stuff used to keep your
 carpet from slipping.  The rest of the fabric is just decorative, so
 mine has a map theme.

 I've asked Mom if she would consider making another that I could give
 away.  If so, I won't have it for  a few weeks, at least.

Long, strange story, but I have a sewing machine (old, and simple, but
very functional). Getting some small pieces of oddball fabric should
not be hard in Toronto's garment district (near King and Spadina),
some beans (or similar filler) and making four straight seams all
seems easy enough.

So, three ideas worth further investigation:

- A GPS holder specifically designed for the eTrex 20
- A dollar store notepad or cell phone holder adapted to hold GPS
- A bean-bag made to cradle the GPS.

All good stuff, thanks all.

Colin.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tag for Tim Horton's

2013-05-30 Thread Colin McGregor
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:24 PM, william skora skorasau...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 I was just curious if there's a consensus on what tag to use for a tim
 horton's.

 I've found http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cuisine%3Dcoffee_shop
 and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canadian_tagging_guidelines
 which both mentioned variations.

 For what it's worth, this location was a single building and had a
 drive-thru as well.

Well, Tim Horton's started as a coffee and donuts chain, but many (not
all) of their locations have added items like soup and sandwiches to
their menu. So, I don't think there is a universal answer to this
question, it will depend on the location. For the Toronto, ON folks
let me note some examples, inside the Finch Subway station (Yonge 
Finch) there is a mini-Tim Horton's (that is just coffee and donuts),
that I would tag as a coffee shop. On the other hand, there is a large
(well larger) Tim Horton's on Yonge Street, just south of Eglinton
Ave. that does offer a much wider menu (ie: coffee, donuts, soup,
sandwiches, and ice cream), that I would tag as a fast food location.

So, William Skora, how extensive is that Tim Horton's menu?

 regards,
 will.

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[Talk-ca] Toronto on the Wiki...

2013-05-27 Thread Colin McGregor
I was looking at the Toronto, ON entry in the OSM wiki :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toronto .

Some of the material is out of date... Any thoughts as to how best to
fix things?

Thanks.


Colin McGregor

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Re: [Talk-ca] Callsigns...

2013-03-11 Thread Colin McGregor
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:41 PM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote:

 This past weekend I did add the tag
 tower:type communications to the CN Tower, but I want to add the
 station transmitter information...

 Probably the only real issue is finding an unencumbered source of
 station transmitter information.

 Wikipedia says that the text is available under Creative Commons
 Attribution-ShareAlike License, but was the information included there
 derived from an open source?

Broadcaster data is part of the public record, Industry Canada has
downloadable data here:
http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/h_sf09484.html (at the
moment I don't have a machine that can deal with MapInfo files so I 'm
not sure what data is included and I'm not sure what sort of license
the data is released under...).

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[Talk-ca] Callsigns...

2013-03-10 Thread Colin McGregor
For various reasons I've taken an interest in the locations of TV (and
to a lesser degree radio) station transmitter sites (the studios often
being a number of km. from the transmitter location(s)).

Is there a standard way to enter this into Open Street Map?

A specific example that I am interested in is the CN Tower, which I
would gather from Wikipedia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CN_Tower#Television_broadcasters) is
home to 7 different TV station transmitters, 10 FM broadcast
transmitters, plus several utility broadcasters (cell phone, pager
services, among others). This past weekend I did add the tag
tower:type communications to the CN Tower, but I want to add the
station transmitter information...

Thanks.


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[Talk-ca] City of Toronto by-laws and OSM stuff...

2013-02-18 Thread Colin McGregor
This past week I was looking at a branch of one of Canada's big banks
near my home in Toronto. There was NO street number to be seen on the
branch building. From an OSM standpoint we want lots of publicly
available data, and from the following I gather the display of street
numbers is required by law (at least in Toronto) :
http://www.toronto.ca/mapping/numbers/index.htm

So, the question becomes how to get this fixed? Contact the city? the
bank? other?

Also, for getting that bank branch street number into OSM, I took the
expedient of going into the bank branch and asking for a staff member
business card. I have now entered the street number / postal code that
was on that card into OSM, I hope this isn't a problem, as anyone
asking at the branch would get the same information from a public
source that the provider could hardly view as proprietary.


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[Talk-ca] Importance of Geography

2013-01-15 Thread Colin McGregor
Okay, I assume everyone on this list is to some degree a map fan
and/or geek. But here is a story about maps outside our community that
should be of interest:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2013/01/14/nl-students-dont-know-geography-115.html

Enjoy...


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[Talk-ca] Low end smart phones and Open Street Map...

2012-04-09 Thread Colin McGregor
Does anyone know how well (or badly) the low end smart phones (such as
the Samsung Wave phones) are as GPS track loggers?

Reason I ask is because I will be traveling to the US on business in
the near future, and one of the things that makes me nervous is cell
phone roaming charges. So, the thought has crossed my mind, get an
basic carrier unlocked GSM phone, and while in the US get a SIM card
from a US carrier (then when I am back in Canada pop in a SIM card
from a Canadian carrier). So, by swapping SIM cards in/out I would
have a US phone in the US (with a US phone #) and a Canadian phone
when in Canada (with a Canadian phone#).  Basically what I am thinking
is, spend money on a basic carrier unlocked new cell phone (to replace
my old working but carrier locked CDMA phone), and let the savings in
roaming charges largely or entirely cover the cost of a new phone. I
have not yet crunched the numbers to work out how many minutes I would
have to be talking on phone in the US for this to make financial
sense, but something I am looking at.

So, related to this I see that the Samsung Wave (low end smart) phones
(sub-$150 without a contract) have a GPS receiver and have an app.
that allows for the capture of Open Street Map tracks. If by spending
a SMALL amount extra I can get a phone that could also replace the
services of my (very limited) first generation Garmin eTrex GPS, that
could be a win on several levels (more track memory, one less item to
pack when traveling, etc.).

Thoughts?

Thanks.



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Re: [Talk-ca] Balloon Mapping

2012-01-27 Thread Colin McGregor
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:20 PM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Harald Kliems
 harald.kli...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
 It's a neat project. Does anybody know what the rules in regulations about 
 this are in Canada? Same as in the US?

 Canadian regulations are close to US regs, but not quite the same.

 We regularly fly unmanned non-tethered balloons to 30+ kms with no
 real issues. We contact ATC and get a NOTAM issued.

 These balloons are very small and tethered, usually at low altitudes.
 There are limits on the strength of the tether line, and you'll need
 to be aware of the maximum altitudes near airports, etc.

In other words as long as you don't do this stuff near an airport
you're fine. How far away do you have to be from an airport to be free
of height restrictions?

Thanks.

Colin
VE3ZAA

 Here's a link to the Canadian Air Regulations, specifically tether
 balloons. Look at the index to find more specifics on the type of
 flight you'd be running.

 http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-96-433/page-175.html#h-768



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[Talk-ca] Balloon Mapping

2012-01-26 Thread Colin McGregor
I ran across this, which would have some clear possible value for
doing very detailed maps for a small area :
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1775485688/balloon-mapping-kits

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[Talk-ca] Degrading Open Streetmap (sort of...).

2011-12-22 Thread Colin McGregor
Is there a guide as to how to extract Open Streetmap data, but only some of it?

I'm poking at the question of maps for amateur radio use. With this is
an interest in azimuthal equidistant projection maps. I want a map
database that covers the following:

- The outlines of all continents, and MAJOR islands
- The path of MAJOR rivers
- National level boarders

Bottom line, this information will be displayed on screen and even at
WHUGA (7680×4800 -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_display_resolutions#WHUXGA_.287680.C3.974800.29)
the highest screen resolution I have been able to find defined, a LOT
of detail could be dropped without ill effect.

Thanks.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Amateur Radio Maps...

2011-12-13 Thread Colin McGregor
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Stewart C. Russell scr...@gmail.com wrote:
 If anyone's confused about what these maps would look like, I have some 
 examples here: 
 http://glaikit.org/2011/12/11/not-really-getting-the-azimuthal-equidistant-projection-right/

 They were made with the not-exactly free AZ_PROJ, a utility written entirely 
 in PostScript.

Okay, I have a pert of the answer here, the May and June 1979 issues
of Byte Magazine, with a two part article on map making. So, I have
the source code (written in BASIC, sigh) that will take a latitude /
longitude and turn that into an X / Y point to be plotted. In other
words I can now look at the math and logic of what needs be be done in
the transformation...

 For a great (but non-free) example of a grey line (day/night) map, see 
 http://pskreporter.info

 Cheers
  Stewart

 On 2011-12-12, at 9:23, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last Saturday I was at a party co-hosted by Richard Weait (thanks),
 where the topic of maps for amateur radio use came up.

 A topic that has been of interest to me is amateur radio and disaster 
 response.

 So, I am looking for software that will generate two maps from Open
 Street Map data:

 - An azimuthal equidistant projection map for any arbitrary latitude / 
 longitude
 - A day and night map (ie: what parts of the world are CURRENTLY in
 sunshine / darkness)

 So, what makes the requirement for the above a little tough?  I want
 the software to be under the GPL (or some other open license) so it
 can be redistributed without issue. I want it for Linux (so the OS to
 support the application can also be redistributed without issue). I
 want the application to run stand-alone (so if there is a problem with
 the internet connection I don't want the application to suddenly
 become useless). The data for this can not be more than a few MB at
 most (but then this shouldn't be an issue, given that road, rail, land
 use data is irrelevant for these apps, all that is needed is
 continental outlines, MAJOR lakes, rivers, islands and cities).

 So, why the interest in these maps?

 Many amateur radio antenna are directional (doing a better job of
 receiving (or transmitting) a signal in one particular direction).
 With an azimuthal equidistant projection map done for your location,
 you can draw a line from the center of the map to the location you are
 interested in and that will instantly tell you the direction to adjust
 your directional antenna. This is static map, as in you generate the
 map once for a given latitude / longitude you are effectively done.

 High frequency radio signals can refract off the ionosphere allowing
 very long range communications with low power transmitters. What
 frequencies refract well depends on a number factors, including
 sunshine / darkness. So knowing that the place you want to talk to is
 in darkness is useful. So, a day night map would have to be dynamic,
 being updated say once per minute ...

 Anyone with ideas as to where I could / should turn for the above?

 Thanks.

 Colin McGregor
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[Talk-ca] Amateur Radio Maps...

2011-12-12 Thread Colin McGregor
Last Saturday I was at a party co-hosted by Richard Weait (thanks),
where the topic of maps for amateur radio use came up.

A topic that has been of interest to me is amateur radio and disaster response.

So, I am looking for software that will generate two maps from Open
Street Map data:

- An azimuthal equidistant projection map for any arbitrary latitude / longitude
- A day and night map (ie: what parts of the world are CURRENTLY in
sunshine / darkness)

So, what makes the requirement for the above a little tough?  I want
the software to be under the GPL (or some other open license) so it
can be redistributed without issue. I want it for Linux (so the OS to
support the application can also be redistributed without issue). I
want the application to run stand-alone (so if there is a problem with
the internet connection I don't want the application to suddenly
become useless). The data for this can not be more than a few MB at
most (but then this shouldn't be an issue, given that road, rail, land
use data is irrelevant for these apps, all that is needed is
continental outlines, MAJOR lakes, rivers, islands and cities).

So, why the interest in these maps?

Many amateur radio antenna are directional (doing a better job of
receiving (or transmitting) a signal in one particular direction).
With an azimuthal equidistant projection map done for your location,
you can draw a line from the center of the map to the location you are
interested in and that will instantly tell you the direction to adjust
your directional antenna. This is static map, as in you generate the
map once for a given latitude / longitude you are effectively done.

High frequency radio signals can refract off the ionosphere allowing
very long range communications with low power transmitters. What
frequencies refract well depends on a number factors, including
sunshine / darkness. So knowing that the place you want to talk to is
in darkness is useful. So, a day night map would have to be dynamic,
being updated say once per minute ...

Anyone with ideas as to where I could / should turn for the above?

Thanks.

Colin McGregor
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[Talk-ca] What your favorite map projection says about you...

2011-11-14 Thread Colin McGregor
Geek humor, a cartoon about what your favorite map projection says about you:

http://xkcd.com/977/

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[Talk-ca] Future GPS issues?

2011-08-21 Thread Colin McGregor
I ran across the following on a website dedicated to small boats about
a possible threat to the GPS system:

  http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/11/reports/gps/index.htm

Not sure how big an issue this will be, but it is something to watch...

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[Talk-ca] Hospital list...

2010-12-04 Thread Colin McGregor
I am doing some stuff with the Random Hacks of Kindness folks
(http://www.rhok.org/) and am looking for a list of geo-referenced
hospitals. Anyone know an easy way to get this info. out of Open
Street Map, or baring that know of another source of this data that
could be freely re-used by not for profits looking to help co-ordinate
disaster responses...

Thanks.

Colin McGregor

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[Talk-ca] Hospital list...

2010-12-04 Thread Colin McGregor
-- Forwarded message --
From: Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:59:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Hospital list...

On 12/4/10, Jean-Guilhem Cailton snip wrote:
 Le 04/12/2010 22:17, Colin McGregor a écrit :
 I am doing some stuff with the Random Hacks of Kindness folks
 (http://www.rhok.org/) and am looking for a list of geo-referenced
 hospitals. Anyone know an easy way to get this info. out of Open
 Street Map, or baring that know of another source of this data that
 could be freely re-used by not for profits looking to help co-ordinate
 disaster responses...

 Thanks.

 Colin McGregor


 Hi,

 You can download the list of Haiti Health facilities from
 http://haiti.resource-finder.appspot.com/
 (Export CSV, in the lower left corner).

 The source was the PAHO master list:
 https://sites.google.com/a/netspective.org/haiti-health-facilities/home

 Previous versions, up to version 7 as far as I know, were imported into
 OSM
 (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Status/Hospitals -
 This page also explains how you can download hospitals from OSM through
 XAPI, possibly for another area of interest).

 (And you are welcome to import the current the current version in OSM,
 if you feel able to merge it in carefully.)

 Best wishes,

 Jean-Guilhem

Thanks, but... Haiti is of interest to us, but so is Afghanistan,
Zimbabwe and everything in between... Anyone know of a list of
hospitals for everywhere?

Thanks.

Colin.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Labelling camp site numbers.

2010-07-28 Thread Colin McGregor
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:10 PM, G. Michael Carter
mi...@carterfamily.ca wrote:

 This is what I hate about copyright.

 So if copying the name Forest Lawn or Campsite 19 from a map it's a 
 violation.  What about copying the name from the official website?  is 
 copying the name of the Ontario Science Centre from 
 http://www.ontariosciencecentre.ca/ a violation?  (like I just did for this 
 e-mail)   What about standing in front of the campsite post writing down the 
 number?  It's also also a violation as I'm copying the number?  What about 
 remembering the number?   As I said below, being able to copyright maps is 
 the stupidest idea I've ever seen.  Are the going to start copyrighting the 
 landscape so an artist can't draw it next?  I'm sure someone's tried.

Copying off a map or a website without the permission of the copyright
holder is a violation. On the other hand, standing at the south-west
corner of Eglinton and Don Mills, seeing the sign that says Ontario
Science Centre then added it to Open Street Map is fine... Bottom
line, if you see something in the field, be it a street sign, a
business sign, etc., those can all be added without issue, but
anything under copyright can not be touched without permission...

 Seems the only way to avoid copyright is to burn more holes in the OZONE 
 layer and drive over to the location and redo surveys already done by several 
 other people burning holes in the OZONE layer...

I understand the concern, but ... When you start digging you will find
errors in the commercial copyright material, In some cases it is
simple out of date material (ie: street X had a name change to street
Y), In other cases there are documented examples of commercial map
makers including errors to catch copyright infringement... Bottom line
stay safe and don't include stuff that either you have seen with your
own eyes (the best way to do things in my book) or comes from a source
where the copyright holder has given their permission to copy (second
best)...

 Sorry... went on a tangent... :-)

 Mikey

 On 28/07/10 06:49 PM, Gerald A wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:08 PM, G. Michael Carter mi...@carterfamily.ca 
 wrote:

 1.  If I grab the camp site numbering off the reservations website and/or 
 campground maps would that be a violation of copyright?

 Yes, for sure. Shift the question to a more mainstream map: If I copy street 
 names off a map, is it a copyright violation?

 But, since this might be for business benefit, you could explain it to the 
 copyright holder (the camp site owner) and ask for the data
 to be licenced. Campground operators would only benefit from this. (The 
 province is a big operator too, but there is other considerations
 for ministries, unfortunately).

 Side question:  Is it a violation to pull the names of object from google?   
 (ie:  Forest Lawn Cemetery?)  Does google have copyright traps like 
 purposely miss-spelling names to catch copyright violators.

 Yes, it's a violation to copy stuff off of Google. Unless the person who has 
 the copyright waves it, it's a violation.

 OSM has always been on the conservative side of thing with this, and rightly 
 so.

 Gerald


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Re: [Talk-ca] GPS Suggestions

2010-06-18 Thread Colin McGregor
Just wanted to say thanks and to note that I have forwarded all the
suggestions on. Hopefully in the not too distant future we will see
better maps in western Quebec and in eastern Ontario :-) .

Colin

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was talking to an old friend this afternoon, and it looks like I
 might have another Open Street Map ... victim :-) . So, next
 question being what GPS should he get. My person preferred solution
 (the GPS receiver that came Microsoft Streets and Trips) fails on the
 portability area. Here are the parameters:

 - Cost is a consideration, he would like to get into mapping but not
 spend a lot.
 - He lives away from major population centres and would like to buy
 local, so a model that is available from major Canadian retailers
 (Walmart, Canadian Tire, etc.).
 - Display doesn't really matter, a B/W display would certainly be
 okay, and a pure data logger might be okay.
 - Battery powered is important as while this would normally be used in
 his car, he want the option of following hiking trails.
 - Ease of transferring *.gpx files to his (Linux) based PC and then on
 OSM is important.

 Suggestions?

 Thanks.

 Colin.


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[Talk-ca] GPS Suggestions

2010-06-14 Thread Colin McGregor
I was talking to an old friend this afternoon, and it looks like I
might have another Open Street Map ... victim :-) . So, next
question being what GPS should he get. My person preferred solution
(the GPS receiver that came Microsoft Streets and Trips) fails on the
portability area. Here are the parameters:

- Cost is a consideration, he would like to get into mapping but not
spend a lot.
- He lives away from major population centres and would like to buy
local, so a model that is available from major Canadian retailers
(Walmart, Canadian Tire, etc.).
- Display doesn't really matter, a B/W display would certainly be
okay, and a pure data logger might be okay.
- Battery powered is important as while this would normally be used in
his car, he want the option of following hiking trails.
- Ease of transferring *.gpx files to his (Linux) based PC and then on
OSM is important.

Suggestions?

Thanks.

Colin.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping Private Roads?

2010-06-04 Thread Colin McGregor
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 [ ... wow, the attribution really got munged on this one.  ]
 Still, the idea of touching base with his superior in the company
 before making the trip seems like a good idea to me.

 I'm with Gregory on this one.  Don't ask the employee to do anything
 uncomfortable.  The roads, being private and access controlled can be
 marked as so in OSM.

My friend is very comfortable traveling around the property. I'm not
so comfortable with his offer to take me around the property (he has
an employee ID, I don't). The airspace overhead is not restricted (at
least not any more than non-company property nearby), so the road grid
information could be obtained from a small airplane flying overhead.
Obtaining the street names from overhead would be a problem. The issue
in my mind is the collection of GPS tracks (on the ground),
would/could the employer object? Further could this sort of data
collection cause any grief to Open Street Map?

I gather that some of the people living near the property do sometimes
try to use the property as a shortcut route (and when caught are
charged with trespass). Better maps would not help the trespass
situation...


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[Talk-ca] Chopping up tracks and how public is public...

2010-05-28 Thread Colin McGregor
I've spent much of the past week in eastern Ontario and done some
mapping near the Ontario/Quebec boarder while visiting an old
friend... I do have a few questions...

- Coming back Toronto I set-up my GPS and recorded a track from
Cornwall, ON to Toronto, ON on the VIA Rail train (why, because I
could :-) ). So, we are talking a *.gpx file track of approx. 400 km.
(or approx. 250 miles). My temptation would be to upload that whole
track, but I have read comments about not uploading tracks that are
too long. So, what is the recommended upper limit for a *.gpx track
length and are there any Linux friendly tools that make splitting
track files painless?

- My friend in eastern Ontario looked over the Open Street Map of his
village (near Cornwall, ON) and noted some errors. Some missing
streets I now have *.gpx track files to correct. I have a reference to
a village owned website that notes village council meeting minutes
regarding street name changes. The village council minutes will note
things like the street named X is being changed to street name Y.
Can I depend on those meeting minutes or should I send friend out with
camera and ask him to take images of the sign at the intersection of
streets A and Y?

Thanks.


Colin McGregor

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[Talk-ca] Slashdot Map Story

2010-04-19 Thread Colin McGregor
Folks may want to have a look at / comment on the following story that
showed up on Slashdot:

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/04/18/2320233/Towards-an-Open-Geolocation-Database?art_pos=1


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Re: [Talk-ca] Google Streetview

2010-03-08 Thread Colin McGregor
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:17 PM,  si...@mungewell.org wrote:

 So, to your original question, I would assume that copying a name off
 a Streetview photo would NOT be okay (because it might infringe on
 Google's copyright and of greater concern to me, because it might be
 wrong).

 But they seem to think they can infringe on my copyrighted photos of
 street signs ;-)

Ah, but if they have doctored an image, taking a sign that might say
JOHN ST, and make it look like it says JON ST then they have
created something new and original. The image doctoring makes the
image clearly a work of (fantasy) art. Copying their art would
make infringement fairly obvious...

If you were to post doctored images of street signs and then that
material were to show up on Streetview then yes, you would have every
right to go after Google for infringement... :-) .

 Geobase should have all of the Canadian street names, and we can use
 those... just need to figure a way to display both to allow easy
 copying/transferal.

 Simon.
 VA6SDW as we seem to be including call signs.


 James
 VE6SRV

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Re: [OSM-talk] Golf course rendering for OpenStreetMap (mapnik)

2009-08-17 Thread Colin McGregor
On 8/17/09, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 I've started a mapnik style sheet that renders golf holes with
 fairways, greens and other goodies.  Have a look and help out if you
 are inclined.

 http://weait.com/content/golf-course-style-openstreetmap

 Best regards,
 Richard

Time for me to play devils advocate here for a moment. I have on rare
occasions played golf on a par 3 course (I'm not very good...). But
one of the things I do know is that some course maintainers shift the
holes from time to time. So while say water hazards stay fairly fixed,
a hole may shift by several meters  each month...

So, how does one track hole movement from month to month?


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Re: [OSM-talk] Statues and Public Art

2009-06-06 Thread Colin McGregor
On 6/6/09, Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2009/6/6 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
 Any consensus about tagging

 statues and public art ?


 Gert Gremmen

 I would be tempted to say yes to both. I assume Statues are covered by
 monument though. I would only put in work that is there permanently
 because some public art is only there for a short wile and could make
 the maps outdated. I sometimes use statues as a reference point wile
 navigating people around towns. For example, Turn left at the statue
 of George Formby and head towards the beach.


 Jack Stringer

Then you get places like Toronto, Ontario's Sculpture Garden
(http://www.toronto.ca/parks/parks_gardens/sculpturegdns.htm), . There
is always public art in the park, but what art changes every few
months. Last time I was in the park there was a giant mushroom, now I
gather there is a Disco Fallout Shelter (?!?!?!?!). It would be
worth noting that there is public art there, without getting
specific...

 Colin.

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Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-ca] Reminder: Toronto, ON mapping party - Jan 31st.

2009-02-02 Thread Colin McGregor
On 1/30/09, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:

 I can't make it but just a note that this is superb it's happening


Thanks, we ended up having 7 mappers sitting around a table sipping coffee
as snow came down outside... Not a lot of mapping got done Saturday, but did
have fun talking maps and map related politics...

I would like to continue this on as a monthly event, the next question being
where. The spot we used last Saturday could be nice, but when we were
there it was crowded and a bit loud... So, I will be on the lookout for a
location that:

- Has free WiFi
- On a Saturday is fairly quiet
- Has good coffee (or other beverages)
- Is towards the west end of Toronto (as all the mappers came from Toronto
or from west of Toronto).
- Is easily accessed by transit (as some of out mappers are transit
dependant).

Colin McGregor


On 30 Jan 2009, at 11:24, Colin McGregor wrote:

  Just a quick reminder note, there will be a mapping party in Toronto,
 Ontario

 When: Saturday, January 31, 2009 1:00 PM

 Where
 Aroma Espresso Bar
 500 Bloor St W
 Toronto ON M5S 1Y3
 416-303-454

 Short walk from the Bathurst subway station

 Colin McGregor

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[Talk-us] Toronto, ON mapping party.

2009-01-26 Thread Colin McGregor
Just to note there will be a mapping party in Toronto, Ontario

When: Saturday, January 31, 2009 1:00 PM

Where
 Aroma Espresso Bar
 500 Bloor St W
 Toronto ON M5S 1Y3
 416-303-454

Short walk from the Bathurst subway station

Colin McGregor

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Re: [OSM-talk] 26 languages

2009-01-24 Thread Colin McGregor
On 1/24/09, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Lars Aronsson wrote:
 After Portuguese and Afrikaans have been added, there are now 28
 languages. But of the largest Wikipedia languages, we're still
 missing Japanese (5th biggest) and Chinese (12th).

 Why bother educating the Chinese about OSM when they will be jailed
 trying to contribute?

The answer is simple and obvious, not all Chinese speaking people live
in China. I live in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and some 11% of the
population (over 280,000 people) is of Chinese decent, and relevant
for the likes of a Wikipedia entry, manages to support three daily
Chinese language newspapers...

So, for the benefit of oversees Chinese a Wikipedia entry would be a
good thing (the more mappers the better in my books).

Colin McGregor

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Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal - leisure=bird_hide

2009-01-12 Thread Colin McGregor
On 1/12/09, LeedsTracker leedstrac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I would like to propose a new tag for a bird hide:

 leisure=bird_hide

Let me play devils advocate here and wonder if bird hide overlaps with
this proposal:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hunting_blind

Both the bird hide and hunting blind are places for people to hide
from wild creatures. Granted one has the goal of staying hidden from
wild creatures, the other calls for staying hidden until the creatures
in question are close enough to be shot at... Still, both seem to be
fairly similar structures, and both are typically a leasure
activity...

Colin McGregor

 (the building=* key is for areas rather than nodes)

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_hide sums it up as:
 a shelter, often camouflaged, that is used to observe wildlife,
 especially birds, at close quarters.
 which
 resembles a garden shed, with small openings, shutters, or windows
 built into at least one side to enable observation.

 Birdwatching is a very popular leisure activity, and being able to
 find hides could be useful.

 I would think of this as a node, which could render as a pair of
 binoculars, probably only at zoom=18

 This icon from http://www.nps.gov/hfc/carto/map-symbols.htm works for me:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Binocs-b-on-w.png
 or
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Binocs-w-on-b.png

 I have created a draft proposal page on the wiki:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/bird_hide

 Follow ups to the talk page there please!

 cheers,
 LT

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[OSM-talk] Who went mapping over the holidays?

2008-12-31 Thread Colin McGregor
Just out of curiosity, how many folks spent some extra time mapping
over the holidays?

In my case I was off to visit family in Perth, ON, Canada. I did do
part of the town when I was in Perth last September, but now, the road
grid within Perth is (as far as I know) completed. Some of the street
names have been entered (I do have a few more names and features still
to add, hopefully over the next few days...). Does leave a major gap
between Perth and nearby Smiths Falls. Even though Smiths Falls is
larger than Perth (approx. 10,000 vs. 6,000 people), Smiths Falls has
a total of some 4 streets in Open Street Map. Also, of course a lot of
the rural roads around Perth are not yet entered... My time in Perth
was limited and I couldn't just go mapping... Still, good to see one
town more-or-less completed...

Small side note, when I was in Perth in September, I saw people were
building a small new housing development south of Lally Lane, but cars
were not allowed down the (modest length) street. So, I noted what I
could of the street, and left things at that. Now, three months later,
the street is open to traffic and is in OSM... Take that other maps
:-) .


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Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-12 Thread Colin McGregor
On 12/12/08, Matias D'Ambrosio angas...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Friday 12 December 2008 10:23:37 Ed Loach wrote:
 I just spotted the following (video) news report on the BBC website:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7778886.stm
 I don't believe the featured street has been mapped yet
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.37471lon=-2.3144zoom=15
 but it looks like to have addressing tags on it each house would
 need to be added manually.

  The messiness of UK and other European countries when it comes to numbering
 is old news, is there anything else on that page? I can't watch the video
 (flash video is a broken idea). Obviously, if there is no logical assignment
 of numbers, or one that is broken too often, mapping each number makes
 sense,
 this thread is not about that.

The above video offers what I hope is an extreme example of street
number craziness in the UK (a street with multiple number 2s,
etc..). I gather there is similar messiness in parts of Asia, like
street numbers assigned based on the age of the building...

The best arrangement I have seen for street numbers is in Chicago, IL.
Streets laid out on a grid pattern. On the north/south and east/west
streets there is a number - distance link. If you go from say 1 North
Michigan to 801 North Michigan you will have travelled ~ 1 mile (or if
you go from 1 to 501 you will have travelled ~ 1 kilometer).

Toronto, Ontario things are almost as good. Almost all north/south
street are have the lowest number at the most southern part of the
street (Toronto being unable to go any further south due to Lake
Ontario). On east/west streets the lowest number is almost always the
point closest to Yonge St. (a major north/south street). What Toronto
doesn't have but Chicago does is the link between street numbers and
distance...

 PS: I'm subscribed to this list, no need to CC me.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Why import all of Geobase/Canvec?

2008-12-11 Thread Colin McGregor
On 12/11/08, Matt Wilkie matt.wil...@gov.yk.ca wrote:
 I've been following the conversations with interest, and find myself
 wondering what is the value for OSM in ingesting wholesale the public
 geospatial offerings of Canadian federal and regional governments? These
 are big organisations with full time staff and big budgets dedicated to
 processing and updating the data. Why should/would a handful of
 volunteers expend the effort in digesting this volume of data? Wouldn't
 it be simpler to utilise WMS services?

Simpler yes, better maybe not.

 The usecase for ingesting roads and trails is fairly clear, people are
 actually adding attributes and adding and adjusting geometry to more
 closely match the reality they see. I don't see the same potential value
 adding activity for natural features like hydrology, contours, satellite
 imagery, etc. Am I missing something?

Elevation contours can be of real interest, I gather some bicycle
groups in Germany have used elevation data in OSM for things like
planning tour routes (not only do bicycle rides want limits on
distance/day they also want limits on sudden changes in elevation (no
steep hills)).

As for hydrology, by attitude would be, if it isn't much trouble to
add, why not?

 best regards,

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[OSM-talk] Seasonal Roads?

2008-12-10 Thread Colin McGregor
I tossed this out to the talk-ca list, and didn't get a response, so
let me toss this out here...

About a week and a half ago I was in Toronto, Ontario's west end near
the Humber River, and I saw (but didn't map), a service road that runs
beside a section of the Humber River.

Now mapping a service road is not an issue, but what makes this one of
interest is that it is closed to motorised vehicles during winter, and
during winter serves as a pedestrian trail. In other words a seasonal
road, so, question is how to tag a road like that? It does serve as a
pedestrian trail year round, but during summer cars are allowed... Tag
it as a trail or tag it as a service road?

Obviously not the only sort of seasonal road we have in Canada, I'm
thinking about the ice roads in the arctic, where for most of the year
you might be talking a lake, but for several weeks each year when the
ice gets thick enough, tractor trailers trucks will be running along
well defined routes over the ice... Again how to tag a road that is
only in operation for a certain part of the year?

Yes, I have seen :

  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Access_restrictions

that would kind-of/sort-of address the above issue but for now what do
people suggest?

Thanks.

Colin McGregor

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Re: [OSM-talk] Seasonal Roads?

2008-12-10 Thread Colin McGregor
On 12/10/08, Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El Miércoles, 10 de Diciembre de 2008, Colin McGregor escribió:
 Now mapping a service road is not an issue, but what makes this one of
 interest is that it is closed to motorised vehicles during winter, and
 during winter serves as a pedestrian trail. In other words a seasonal
 road, so, question is how to tag a road like that? It does serve as a
 pedestrian trail year round, but during summer cars are allowed... Tag
 it as a trail or tag it as a service road?

 I proposed this a while ago:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Dry_weather

 The reason was to be able to upload some Tanzania data, where roads get
 flooded in the wet season. I hadn't got a lot of time to work on that issue.

Yes, exactly the same sort of issue. In the case of the service road I
saw, I suspect the issue is the city doesn't want to be bothered
removing snow from the road during winter, and during spring the
Humber river can more-or-less be counted on to flood the road. Both
are good reasons to keep motorised vehicles off what is a very modest
paved service road for a number of months each year.

So, what can I do to help advance the cause of getting a seasonal tag
(be the season winter or dry season) into OSM?

Colin McGregor

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[Talk-ca] Just a reminder - Toronto, ON, Open Street Map party

2008-11-28 Thread Colin McGregor
Toronto, ON's next mapping event:

Nov 29 Sat 10:00 AM

 Aroma Espresso Bar
 500 Bloor St W
 Toronto, ON M5S 1Y3
 416-303-454

RSVPs can be done via:

  http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Toronto/

Getting a basic account on meetup.com is free and will make sure you
get a reminder e-mail before the event.


Colin McGregor

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Re: [Talk-ca] Ontario Road Network

2008-11-25 Thread Colin McGregor
On 11/25/08, Herman Versteeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Unfortunately at the end of the second paragraph of this news item it
 states; Under this agreement the GeoBase dataset does not include street
 names or street range addresses.. For me address ranges would be nice to
 have, but street names are a must.

Shrug. Any upgrade in the data is a win as far as I am concerned. Yes,
I would love to have a road name and street number information. Still
better to see there is a road from point X1,Y1 to point X2,Y2 than not
have that data...

So, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Sure this data may not be
ideal, but were it gives us data in areas where we don't currently
have any that is a good thing...

Colin McGregor

 Herman

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 14:01
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Ontario Road Network
 To: Herman Versteeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

 Herman Versteeg wrote:
  Hello, I am very interested in getting some free road data for
 the
  Ottawa area (where I am an instructor in the GIS program at
 Algonquin
  College). I came across this web page
  (http://www.brocku.ca/maplibrary/digital/ORN.html) at Brock
  University, which states that the Ontario Road Network is in
 the
  public domain. This web page also refers to the Geography
 Network
  website
 (http://www.geographynetwork.ca/website/orn/viewer.htm) where
  the ORN can be downloaded for free. I could not find anything
 on this
  website about a license The ORN contains driving directions
 and
  address ranges. Before I investigate this data set further I
 would
  like to know if anybody here has done so already.
  Herman
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 The ORN dataset is a component of the Geobase Data that we've
 recently
 been given approval to incorporate into OSM. It sounds like the
 latest
 ORN with the address ranges, etc, is/will be soon in Geobase
 (see
 http://geobase.ca/geobase/en/news/2008/nrn-on.html), so we'll be
 able to
 bring it into OSM once we work out exactly how the import
 process is
 going to work.

 -Jason Reid

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[Talk-us] Open Street Map party Toronto, ON, Oct. 26th 2008

2008-10-14 Thread Colin McGregor
There is an Open Street Map party being planned for Toronto on October
26. Bring a laptop and/or a GPS receiver to the party. Details to be
seen here:

   wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Canada:Ontario:Toronto

On the above web page there is a note asking people to sign up via
upcoming.yahoo.com. For those wanting to sign-up in advance go to the
following page:

  http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/1190490/

The Open Street Map party will be held in the same hotel and the day
after the Ontario Linux Fest for anyone who is interested in coming to
Toronto for the weekend. Details about the Ontario Linux Fest can be
seen here:

  http://onlinux.ca/

Recently I tossed a bunch of article ideas out to the editor of a
Linux oriented publication I have written for (and been published by)
in the past. Of the ideas I tossed out the only one the editor went
for was An Introduction to Open Street Map. So, over the next 2
months I need to pull together 2,500 words of newbee material (not a
real issue :-) ). Now, I have been offered a short term loan of a
portable battery powered GPS. But I am still on the lookout for a
portable GPS that I can run independent of my laptop (currently the
only GPS I have is a unit that came with a copy of Microsoft's
Streets and Trips 2006 (yes in the last two months I have bought a
Microsoft software package, only to toss the software, and keep the
 electronics that came with the software :-) ) ).

So, anyone have suggestions as to an Open Street Map usable battery
powered GPS that is as inexpensive as possible?

Thanks.


Colin McGregor

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