Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Norman
They have edited it back with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141281494. I've left a changeset discussion comment asking why, and asking for a link to the required documentation and consultation. On 2023-09-14 12:36 a.m., Cj Malone wrote: On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 15:06 +0200, Snusmumrike

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing State of the Map 2024: Join us in Nairobi and online on 6-8 September 2024!

2023-08-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 2023-08-14 10:56 a.m., Federica Gaspari wrote: Following the good feedback for State of the Map 2022 Firenze, the upcoming State of the Map 2024 will once again be held in a hybrid format. Building on the valuable lessons and experiences from the previous events, the SotM Organising Commit

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement: OpenAirportMap

2023-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 2023-02-21 12:52 a.m., Stephan Knauss wrote: I wonder how you implemented the map access. After hopping to the second airport i am receiving status 429 from tile.openstreetmap.org. I have not browsed around the OSM map before, so I wonder how many requests you are doing to trigger here a poli

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.7.0

2023-01-10 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v5.7.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include -Unpaved roads are now indicated on the m

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming downtime on 2022-01-22

2022-12-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 2022-12-23 12:11 p.m., Paul Norman wrote: Dear OpenStreetMappers, On Sunday January 22nd 2022 between 10:00 and 15:00 UTC/GMT the API database servers will be unavailable due to maintenance. You can see this in your local time zone at https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock

[OSM-talk] Upcoming downtime on 2022-01-22

2022-12-23 Thread Paul Norman
Dear OpenStreetMappers, On Sunday January 22nd 2022 between 10:00 and 15:00 UTC/GMT the API database servers will be unavailable due to maintenance. You can see this in your local time zone at https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OpenStreetMap+API+Maintenance&iso=20230122T

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-07-01 3:28 p.m., Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 1. Jul 2020, at 23:26, Paul Norman via talk wrote: In general, work_mem=128GB is good with most styles. Paul, he wrote he had 32GB of RAM, should one assign more work_mem than there physically is on the machine? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-07-01 1:42 p.m., Frederik Ramm wrote: + I have seen a couple of different postgresql config suggestions. Is there a one-size fits all or should I tailor it more to my server's configuration. Most configs you see will be for earlier Postgres versions and hence not necessarily valid for Pg

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.0.0

2020-03-19 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-03-19 1:18 a.m., Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: On 19.03.20 02:07, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: All style users who upgrade to v5.0.0 should re-import the rendering database so that the changes to lua transformations will take effect. As I'm running a "render as many styles as possible" installat

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.0.0

2020-03-18 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v5.0.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - An update to Lua tag transforms,

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.22.0

2019-08-27 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v4.22.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Shop label fixes and use ST_Poi

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] OSMF Board face-to face meeting: Suggest the topics and issues that matter to you

2019-05-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 2019-05-09 3:48 a.m., Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 09 May 2019, Dorothea Kazazi wrote: The OSMF Board is going to have a face-to-face meeting in Brussels later in May for strategy and planning and you can suggest the topics and issues that matter to you: https://osmf.limequery.org/48

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.21.0

2019-05-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v4.21.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Removed unused world_boundaries-

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Paul Norman via talk
JOSM has also done the same, and gone farther with creating new tags on its issue tracker.Developing an editor requires making decisions and having opinions on OSM tagging. This in turn means getting it wrong sometimes.On Apr 7, 2019 5:43 AM, John Whelan wrote: I note that the matter has been rai

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-02-28 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2019-02-28 2:35 p.m., Richard Fairhurst wrote: In recent years some OSM data consumers and "OSM as a service" providers have begun to put the credit to OpenStreetMap behind an click-through 'About', 'Credits', 'Legal' or '(i)' link. Examples: https://docs.mapbox.com/help/img/android/andro

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2019-02-26 6:05 a.m., Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, when I first read about this planned edit, I was critical too; I thought, "ah, another eager youngster wanting to make the world a more secure place by telling everyone else how they ought to conduct their business". But if I haven't totally mis

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2019-01-10 10:19 a.m., Christoph Hormann wrote: Since it is on the OSM wiki and there is no statement indicating otherwise does this mean we can start improving the guidelines now?;-) If you can edit them to be closer to the text approved by the OSMF board ;) We just discussed this interna

Re: [OSM-talk] Help - how to get rid of wrong image in wiki?

2018-12-19 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-12-19 11:25 p.m., Maarten Deen wrote: And the image is not entirely wrong, it's an example of a reversible oneway street. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_Gate_Bridge The Lions Gate Bridge and Stanley Park causeway are not one-way. The middle lane switches direction, but there is

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence for Sentinel Satellite images

2018-12-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-12-17 11:13 a.m., John Whelan wrote: My understanding was a benediction by the Legal Working Group can be taken as the highest "official" approval although I understand there is a small backlog of licenses awaiting. The LWG has not historically looked at data licences. There have a be

Re: [OSM-talk] Distribution of OSM ids could be much more useful!

2018-11-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-25 5:50 AM, Victor Shcherb wrote: What do you think? It would be terrible for most software that I am aware of that can process the full planet. Current assumptions about density would be broken, vastly inflating memory usage and slowing down processing. The benefits aren't great

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple errors in the same location

2018-11-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-21 2:29 PM, Jem wrote: > It is a CanVec import from 4 years ago Is there subtext to this? I saw the weird natural=wood CanVec features yesterday (polys cut up into quadtrees) and wondered about its validity. Is the CanVec import notable for being problematic? Yes. CanVec is built

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql diff application with filtered OSM data

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-11 7:53 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: After thinking about this, I realised that I don't really want to update _all_ the data that often. The only thing I need to update on a weekly basis is the footpaths (I'm not so bothered if say the roads, or the pubs are a year out of date - as l

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql diff application with filtered OSM data

2018-11-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-08 6:34 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: At the moment I download full planet extracts about every 6 months. However, due to the limitations of my server, I filter out (with osmosis) a lot of stuff I don't need so that I am basically left with roads, footpaths, natural features, water fea

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

2018-08-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-08-10 1:06 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: Learning the real world use cases and where the proper technological solutions work and if there really genuinely are places where dynamic generation is just not possible. This seems totally in line with things done in the past and should work

Re: [OSM-talk] API a lot slower?

2018-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-07-18 11:04 AM, Andrew Hain wrote: Will there be a local team or does whatever can’t be done remotely need a visit? For the install there will be two people traveling with the equipment, and I've reached out to some locals that were recommended. We should have enough people to get it

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-29 3:38 AM, Max wrote: That is inflating the OSM database with something that Wikidata has solved already in a much better way. Why would someone from wikimedia recommend to create a less mentainable version of their database? Wikidata has 412978 "thoroughfare" items. OSM has 121

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.12.1

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v4.12.1 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. The sole change is dropping rendering of the surfa

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto design

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-29 2:48 AM, James wrote: So what is intended to replace CartoCSS? Vector tiles? CartoCSS is a styling language, vector tiles is an architecture choice. You can use CartoCSS with vector tiles, as the Cycle Map and Transport Map layers on osm.org do, or you can use CartoCSS with just

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto design

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
I've been involved in OpenStreetMap Carto less and less, partially because I work with CartoCSS setups enough for work. On 2018-06-29 2:06 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: And you are wrong that "nobody seems to be even noticing" complexity of the roads code. At least Lucas, Paul and me have a ve

[OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-24 Thread Paul Norman
As part of my Wikimedia Foundation work, I'm working on labeling in multiple languages using OSM data. We've run into an issue, and it's not clear how to best solve it. It is sometimes recommended that when you add a name in another language you also indicate the name in the local language by add

Re: [OSM-talk] Help me build an OSM Community Index

2018-04-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/31/2018 5:25 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: a `.geojson` file to describe where the region where it is active.  (multiple resources can share a .geojson file) I'm having trouble figuring out what a sensible region is for the meetups in Vancouver and the Pacific Northwest. Our meetups are along

Re: [OSM-talk] Is this legal to what philly.com is doing?

2018-02-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/22/2018 8:03 PM, James Mast wrote: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/will-republicans-impeach-pennsylvania-supreme-court-justices-20180222.html (ignore what the article is about) Just happen to see a thumbnail and clicked on the article since I noticed the OSM base map.  Nowhere

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/17/2018 9:14 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: What can I as a map editor do to keep these data files to a reasonable size without compromising  data quality? I mean in the sense, - take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves? I could think of the following three appr

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-10-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/1/2017 5:39 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Lastly, if the coordinates are different, you may not copy it from OSM to Wikidata because of the difference in the license. Just for clarity and anyone reading the archives later, copying from Wikidata to OSM is also a problem because Wikidata permi

[OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
at to map (and potentially also how to map it) and who receives money in exchange. We define other organised mapping (or editing) as any editing that is also steered by a third party, but where no money is paid. The survey is available at https://osm-dwg.limequery.org/741554 -- Paul Norman For th

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.3.0

2017-09-16 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v4.3.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Moving ford and emergency phone to a new tagging scheme - Moving natural=tree to higher zoom level (z18+) - Changing embassy color to brown - Renderin

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Paul Norman
on of data illegally copied data, but we need to remove it in the end, regardless of if we want to. Paul Norman For the OSMF Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM, john whelan wrote: I would suggest that any street names added by chdr in Canada were more than likely derived from CANVEC sources What makes you believe this to be so? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v3.3.0 release

2017-05-10 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.3.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. This may not be immediately rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers, but that is up to the OSM sysadmin team, not the openstreetmap-carto maintainers. Changes inclu

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.2.0

2017-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.20 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Render aeroway terminal buildings like other buildings - Removed rendering of landuse=farm - Added rendering for arts centre, fitness centre, plant nur

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/16/2017 2:51 AM, Yves wrote: Is there an example where the community has cleaned up the Corine multi polygons instead of starting from scratch? I've done some Corine cleanup, mainly consisting of deleting obviously wrong data. Where I've remapped it's been faster to delete it and start

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/15/2017 2:51 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: There is a comparison map where you can see the changes: https://osmium.osm2pgsql.paulnorman.ca There are some notable holes, for example in the woods of Scandinavia. It would be great if they are gone by the time we switch the software. Just to not

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto database schema change

2017-01-30 Thread Paul Norman
One of the long-running OpenStreetMap Carto projects has been a database schema change, https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2533. Included in this are - database schema change; - disjoint area handling; - different tag columns; and - multipolygon handling changes This

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.1.0

2017-01-28 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.1.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Added coffee shop rendering - Added health clinic rendering - Adjusted place label typography - Road shield rendering improvements - Internal code cle

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-06 Thread Paul Norman
, their opinions aren't representing the DWG. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Square (Place, Platz,Piazza, Plaza, …)

2017-01-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/2/2017 4:31 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: If you mean default style (osm-carto), it's already appointed for rendering =} : https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2203 It's wrong to say it's "appointed" for rendering. There's an issue open requesting it be rendered, but that

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.44.1

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v2.44.1 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Also, v2.44.0 was released last month without an email, so this email includes changes in both. v2.44.0 has been rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers, but v2.44.

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-10-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 2016-10-01 02:36 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: Maybe I'm a bit late to the party, but I don't feel it's great to give special treatment to Mapnik in the infobox, and there is not enough room for presenting all the renderers there. OpenStreetMap Carto is given special treatment on osm.org by bei

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual feedback wanted for OpenStreetMap Carto

2016-09-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/17/2016 7:32 PM, Paul Norman wrote: I'm looking for feedback from people who read non-latin languages on a proposed OpenStreetMap Carto font change. We are considering moving to Noto fonts and could use feedback from people who can read languages which have non-latin sc

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual feedback wanted for OpenStreetMap Carto

2016-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/19/2016 3:24 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 19/09/2016 11:13, Paul Norman wrote: The changes this topic is about are not live on openstreetmap.org. The original message has details, but the issue tracking the proposed changes is https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual feedback wanted for OpenStreetMap Carto

2016-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/19/2016 2:32 AM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: The hyphens are not disappearing from the Ukrainian geographical names. The names are just always spit in two lines at a hyphen for some towns. Exactly as for Wotton-under-Edge in the UK. Google m

[OSM-talk] Multilingual feedback wanted for OpenStreetMap Carto

2016-09-17 Thread Paul Norman
I'm looking for feedback from people who read non-latin languages on a proposed OpenStreetMap Carto font change. We are considering moving to Noto fonts and could use feedback from people who can read languages which have non-latin scripts, particularly Asian languages. I've made previews in a

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass XAPI URL Status

2016-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/14/2016 11:04 AM, mmd wrote: Am 14.09.2016 um 09:30 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: >I help support a large company that uses OSM data, pulled via a specific >query at ://www.overpass-api.de/api/xapi >. This query runs about once a month. xapi endpoint is t

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.43.0

2016-09-05 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v2.43.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. It has not yet been rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. Changes include - Adjust alotments pattern - Whitespace cleanups of code - Adjust colours of dog parks

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.42.0

2016-08-24 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/24/2016 5:25 AM, Dave F wrote: Hi Has label positioning with irregular polygons been improved? If so, it works very well: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.3166/-2.1700 I don't think we've made any changes there. It could be something else that has changed in the data. We actual

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto issues of interest

2016-08-18 Thread Paul Norman
There are some OpenStreetMap Carto issues which might be interesting to a larger audience Improving the water colour: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1781 There's been a discussion of options for improving the water colour to improve contrast with a number of other

[OSM-talk] DWG looking for Chinese translation help

2016-08-16 Thread Paul Norman
The OSM Foundation Data Working Group is looking for help with translating a couple of messages to Chinese. These messages are about data we're going to need to redact, so we want to make sure they understand. If you can help, please contact d...@osmfoundation.org

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.41.0

2016-07-13 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v2.41.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include * More consistent fonts for POI labels * Less saturated stadiums * Rendering obelisks and dog parks * An updated list of font packages * Cleaning up the

Re: [OSM-talk] Opportunity for a new featured layer on osm.org (was: Direct Access to MapQuest map tiles ending)

2016-06-15 Thread Paul Norman
With the MQ Open changes, there is an opportunity for a general-purpose map style to become a new featured layer on osm.org. The requirements for a new layer are at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers The key ones are - Supported by whomever i

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement: Direct Access to MapQuest map tiles without a key will end on 11 July 2016. Details on getting keys and SDKs

2016-06-15 Thread Paul Norman
- Does this mean that MQ Open tiles will need to be removed from osm.org? - MQ Open tiles on open.mapquest.com are still pointing at an old style. Will this be changing? - Will MQ be updating the various references they've added on the OSM wiki which contain information on how to use MQ Open

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Reporting Attribution Issues on Mapbox maps

2016-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/10/2016 3:03 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: But I'm a little concerned about non-MB hosted maps. If not this URL, where can we report attribution issues related to non-hosted Mapbox maps and can you link to that other place we can report attribution issues related to that other kind of cust

Re: [OSM-talk] RfD notification: Purge tag "priority" from tracks

2016-04-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/8/2016 7:14 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: This constitutes a mechanical edit. Therefore, I would like to notify you that I have put a request for discussion on talk-transit@ . If you would like to discuss, please do so there. The talk-transit@ list is inactive, and not entirely relevant si

[OSM-talk] Switch2OSM graphic design help needed

2016-04-03 Thread Paul Norman
Switch2OSM is undergoing a rewrite to allow a different contribution model. As part of this we had to switch from the existing WordPress design to one using Jekyll. This requires a new visual design, and we're looking for help from a graphic designer. This is independent of content changes, so

[OSM-talk] Redaction of some Afghanistan data

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Norman
g the mapper for more information about what they did. It is much better to catch this type of problem early, simplifying and reducing the cleanup work required. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Piers vs Docks

2016-03-11 Thread Paul Norman
On 2016-03-11 9:50 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: Does iD have an American english translation? Maybe it should. iD is in en_US, with an en_GB translation. For example, the untranslated help text mentions freeways, while en_GB mentions motorways. ___ talk

[OSM-talk] osm2pgsql 0.90.0 release

2016-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
Osm2pgsql 0.90.0 has been released. The major changes since 0.88.0 are - Windows support is much improved, and osm2pgsql builds natively with MSVC - Osm2pgsql now requires a C++11 compiler - Memory overhead for very small extracts is significantly reduced - Multi-threading support is enabled f

Re: [OSM-talk] Applicability of wiki tagging and votes: may, should or must

2016-02-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/29/2016 8:49 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 29 January 2016 at 17:37, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: "but that's not much to do with tagging diversity" - I would dispute it, from my personal experience. Tagging diversity IS one of real problems in using OSM data. +1. I'm going to disagree, e

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2016-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2016 1:44 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: When we are done cleaning up Starbucks, we'll still have at least one Starbucks with a wikipedia link, the original store But this won't be a link to the Starbucks article, but instead the specific one on that notable store. I still believe that N

Re: [OSM-talk] Involving Cyclists in OSM

2015-12-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/8/2015 7:39 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Paul Norman <mailto:penor...@mac.com>> wrote: For what points to pitch, I'd suggest - Crowd-sourced, so they can edit themselves, meaning they can get fixed data in minutes to days, not qua

Re: [OSM-talk] Involving Cyclists in OSM

2015-12-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/8/2015 4:40 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: I am meeting with one of the key players in Seattle's cycling clubs to pitch doing a presentation to their membership. I'm interested in hearing from cyclists on why and how OSM is useful to them. I have no problem talking about the open data concept a

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-12-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/2/2015 2:12 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: It also happens that I have stopped renewing my membership to the OSMF after an election where a candidate was excluded from the vote because his views on a controversial subject (related to license change) were strongly different from those of

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/22/2015 2:39 AM, Colin Smale wrote: I have heard a few times recently about what3words, a new novel coordinate/addressing system for the whole world. Could/should we be doing anything to support/facilitate/implement this system in OSM? No. Other people might talk about the numerous

[OSM-talk] Fw: new message

2015-11-06 Thread Paul Norman
Hello! New message, please read <http://immugen.com/ways.php?j> Paul Norman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity statistics per city (or region)

2015-10-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/26/2015 2:52 AM, César Martínez Izquierdo wrote: On 26 October 2015 at 10:28, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >"provides access to existing users" - I am not sure what you want. Who >was last to edit given element? List of all user accounts? List of users >active in a given region? Something els

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity statistics per city (or region)

2015-10-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/26/2015 8:24 AM, Fabian Schmidt wrote: It is rare but there are users who renamed their account, so there are more user names than numeric user ids. No. Although users have renamed their account, this doesn't increase the number of user names, it changes one of them. Additionally, use

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/14/2015 1:23 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: You'd have to research how the boundary is defined. If there is some sort of legal definition that goes "the boundary has the following geometry: from lat/lon A to lat/lon B to lat/lon C...", independent of the river or highway, then it makes sense to h

Re: [OSM-talk] Somebody should offer planet file postgis dump files

2015-09-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/27/2015 6:55 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: Even if this is not 6 days long, it may still make sense to use differential dumps for example. I don't know how much additional resources we would need to create them and how faster would it be to import the data, but after one big import at - let's sa

Re: [OSM-talk] Somebody should offer planet file postgis dump files

2015-09-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/26/2015 5:54 PM, Stephen Knox wrote: Does it really take this long to import a planet file these days? I would be interested to know if anyone else has imported one recently. I may import one myself at some point, but if it takes 6 days I probably won't bother. For osm2pgsql, it depends

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/22/2015 4:20 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: Could anybody with technical background in the inner OSM workings tell us what is holding us back with introducing new styles (be it raster styles, additional/interactive layers or even vector tiles)? Only a lack of people willing to do the work. Multip

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/20/2015 9:32 AM, john whelan wrote: As someone affected I wish to dissent therefore you do not have consensus not every one consents. Although not essential to the style discussion, I think it's important to correct this point. Consensus is not unanimity. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2

[OSM-talk] Preview of OpenStreetMap Carto proposed road rendering changes

2015-08-17 Thread Paul Norman
I have set up a preview at http://bl.ocks.org/pnorman/raw/c61d6b11193081910866 of the proposed road rendering changes done by Matkoniecz as part of GSOC. There are more details at https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1736#issuecomment-131638433, but please keep in mind that

Re: [OSM-talk] Best base to build on ...

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 2:09 PM, Lester Caine wrote: The simple answer seems to be that there is no standard when it comes to mapping applications and everybody creates their own personal special such as kosmtik rather than working with established standards:( Kosmtik is a standard. But it's a development t

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 1:15 PM, Ruben Maes wrote: 17 117 occurences is not 'not in the database'. No, a key not in https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/openstreetmap-carto.style is not in the database. landcover is not in that list, so is not in the database. ___

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 4:26 AM, Dave F. wrote: Hi Does the combined wood/forest update include landcover=trees? If not it needs to be included all three should render the same (IMO). No. Nor are there any issues created about rendering landcover=trees. As the landcover key is currently not in the data

Re: [OSM-talk] Best base to build on ...

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 8:14 AM, Lester Caine wrote: Not getting much help on the GB list so I thought I'd widen the question. A couple of years back I had my own server setup working with a base of OSRM and routing covering the UK. While the map server is still working, routing has packed up and some of th

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 4:45 AM, tony wroblewski wrote: The woodland change looks much better, but would it not be possible to render broadleaved, needleleaved and mixed using different tree images, as seen on other maps? Not at the moment. See https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/822

Re: [OSM-talk] landcover=trees

2015-08-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/15/2015 8:13 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: I asked about it here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1724#issuecomment-128702817 but the issue is closed now without too detailed discussion The issue was closed because it was solved - the rendering was unified. The top

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/14/2015 7:27 PM, Paul Norman wrote: This email is also in user diary form at osm.org/user/pnorman/diary/35589 where issue numbers are linked. I forgot to mention in the earlier message, please file any bug reports at https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
This email is also in user diary form at osm.org/user/pnorman/diary/35589 where issue numbers are linked. OpenStreetMap Carto 2.33.0 has been released. This release focuses on cartographic style improvements, but the release notes also include 2.32.0. The biggest changes are - A randomized symb

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook uses OpenStreetMap

2015-07-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/16/2015 6:42 PM, Dongpo Deng wrote: Does anyone have ideas why Facebook uses OSM for their checkin service in some Asian countries including Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China? Probably one of the typical reasons, better data in what they care about, different cost structure, or a different li

Re: [OSM-talk] Issue-Tracker for http[s]://www.openstreetmap.org

2015-07-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/16/2015 11:59 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: There are actually three thing you see onwww.openstreetmap.org: the map data, the map tiles (rendering style), and the website itself. There's a couple more - Nominatim, used for Search and Where am I? - Various routing engines, used for directions

Re: [OSM-talk] New hardware - new possibilities?

2015-07-05 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/4/2015 8:49 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: Or maybe the donation was meant just to keep us running as we are today with no further development plans? The donation drive is for hardware resources, not for development resources. In fact, development is defined as being outside the scope of the Opera

Re: [OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

2015-06-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/27/2015 1:14 PM, Fernando Trebien wrote: Actually no, the server checks for circular dependencies, and a relation pointing to itself is a cycle. Try it, the server returns a validation error. Nothing in the OSM data model prohibits a relation that references itself, or relations that form a

Re: [OSM-talk] getmap in osm mode

2015-06-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/17/2015 10:41 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: getmap works with so called public static image APIs, which are provided by Mapquest and Google. AFAIR, OSM does *not* provide such an API - at least at last time I checked. But, I've read that OSM now provides direct routing. If they would also provide

Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting routing problems

2015-05-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/28/2015 11:25 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: With MapQuest it was much harder to find how can I report another bug. Finally I have found "Residential Map or Route Errors" link on Support page ( https://support.mapquest.com/hc/en-us - looks like the link itself is dynamic, because it has issue num

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging FOR the renderer

2015-05-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/17/2015 3:14 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: I have no idea how you'd apply P2P to map style design. It sounds like you; ve heard of a great technology, and want to apply it to every problem without fully understanding the technology and/or the problem. I even used it once on OSM - it was called Til

Re: [OSM-talk] Territorial waters of Gibraltar

2015-04-07 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/7/2015 1:07 PM, Colin Smale wrote: As you will have noticed by now, it's complicated. There is no "truth" agreed to by both sides, so we may need two boundaries: one according to Spain, and one according to Gib/UK. In between is "disputed territory". How do we handle that in other cases? W

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.29.0

2015-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
Today version v2.29.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet has been released. Changes include - An entirely new natural=tree and tree_row rendering, based on the osm-fr style (#978) - New water features styling (#991) - Better matching of icon colours and text colours (#1354) - Rendering arr

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting on voting system for proposals

2015-03-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/18/2015 2:43 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Since you are involved with updating the rendering, can you tell us the process to decide what should be rendered? I realize that part of it must be stylistic, but what outside influences cause you to include a tag as part of the standard rendered OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting on voting system for proposals

2015-03-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/18/2015 2:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I'd like to point to the tagging mailing list, where there is currently a discussion going on, whether the current voting system for voting proposals should be changed. Just as a clarification, this is for voting on what it takes to indicate a ta

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