Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A legal question

2011-04-16 Thread Simon Biber
Hi Eldad, It sounds like your meta data is derived from the OSM map data, in which case it must be licensed as CC-BY-SA. This doesn't mean you have to actively contribute it back to the community. You can restrict access or allow users to set up access controls on your website. But if someone

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A legal question

2011-04-16 Thread Simon Biber
information. We are evolving it to help folks such as yourself, so if there is anything unclear or confusing, please do no hesitate to email me. Mike On 16/04/2011 15:55, Simon Biber wrote: Hi Eldad, It sounds like your meta data is derived from the OSM map data, in which case it must

Re: [talk-au] Bulk loading all the Australian Statistical Geography Standard into the OSM - a query from the Australian Bureau of Statistics [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-02-22 Thread Simon Biber
Marcus Blake marcus.bl...@abs.gov.au wrote Wed, 23 February, 2011 11:31:50: From the ABS point of view the principle reason for doing this is that an the OSM database would hold a copy of the official version of the boundaries and that this point of truth would be available for all OSM users

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

2010-11-25 Thread Simon Biber
Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: But there is no restriction to do with any work that is not protected by license or PD. In that sense any license is a restriction. Not true, any copyrightable work that is not licensed or PD is assumed to be all rights reserved, and nobody may copy it

Re: [OSM-talk] license change map

2010-11-11 Thread Simon Biber
Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote: So far 3700 mappers agreed to the new license. Out of 68 million ways 46% are created and edited only by people who did accept the ODBL. 42% were not edited by a proponent of ODBL, the remaining 12% of the ways have a mixed history. You

Re: [talk-au] license change map

2010-11-11 Thread Simon Biber
Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote: So far 3700 mappers agreed to the new license. Out of 68 million ways 46% are created and edited only by people who did accept the ODBL. 42% were not edited by a proponent of ODBL, the remaining 12% of the ways have a mixed history. You

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet database size?

2010-10-18 Thread Simon Biber
On Tue, 19 October, 2010 2:45:08 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't after just straight statistics. I was wanting to do some analysis of bot activity and such so I need information on users, changesets and map objects. So by the resounding silence on this list I'm guessing

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Simon Biber
On Wed, 15 September, 2010 11:28:29 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Just to clarify, we have not concluded discussions with NearMap and discussion is still positive. The removal of the NearMap option in Potlatch was prompted a few weeks by back, but was only actioned

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

2010-09-01 Thread Simon Biber
On Thu, 2 September, 2010 11:22:54 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Besides, there's nothing in the Google Terms of Service which says you may not make use of the facts you learn by using this website. That'd just be silly. Not to mention unconscionable, and therefore

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] To calm some waters - about Section 3

2010-08-24 Thread Simon Biber
On Sun, 22 August, 2010 11:55:27 PM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: As I'm interested in keeping my data within OSM and find a common ground with rest of you, I'm delighted to see that requests to specify 'free and open license' in CT section 3 has been taken into account[1]. Huge

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: what are empty nodes and how should we use them?

2010-08-15 Thread Simon Biber
On Mon, 16 August, 2010 9:36:50 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: There's still such a bug: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2700 This often happens to me in Potlatch. Here's my usual use case. An intersection of two streets needs to be converted to a roundabout. 1. Split

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Simon Biber
On 13/08/2010, at 8:17, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Firstly, as you say sometime in the past. So Yahoo gave permission when the project has a CC-BY-SA licence. The contributor terms allow the switching of the licence to a non-CC-BY-SA licence. So how can I possibly

Re: [talk-au] Electoral boundaries...

2010-07-28 Thread Simon Biber
James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: Each state is done once every seven years, that doesn't seem overly frequent to me. In my experience electoral redistributions happen after every election (4 years apart). A little research shows that in my state, South Australia, members of

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-28 Thread Simon Biber
Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Where a street name is added or corrected via our site, our current approach is to add or modify the source tag to be nearmap, but yesterday I was (coincidentally) looking at whether we should be appending to any existing source so that we don't

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-27 Thread Simon Biber
If there's a way tagged: highway=residential name=Leigh Street source=survey And the positioning is obviously sub-standard (such as a single node for a 90 degree turn, where the street actually curves with a radius of 10 to 20 metres), I would add, say, 4 more nodes to approximate the

Re: [talk-au] Wineries

2010-07-21 Thread Simon Biber
Hi Ben, Looks like there are two camps on this. One says grape-growing is a type of agriculture so we should reuse existing tags for farms and their crops: landuse=farm, crop=grapes, produce=wine The other says wineries are sufficiently different that they should get their own tag:

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Simon Biber
Ulf Möller o...@ulfm.de wrote: The LWG has stated that specific contributor terms will be considered on a case by case basis for external data sources. If NearMap are happy with the ODbL but not with the Contributor Terms then maybe that should be done here. So can these specific

Re: [talk-au] Another day, another bridge...

2010-07-11 Thread Simon Biber
ed...@billiau.net ed...@billiau.net wrote: that bridge seems to have a bike track on the eastern side which descends into the water The Wikipedia article on Ted Smout Memorial Bridge says The new bridge features ... A fishing platform near the Pine River channel. The platform measures 10

Re: [talk-au] Another day, another bridge...

2010-07-11 Thread Simon Biber
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 July 2010 10:05, Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote: What about adding to those tags * leisure: pitch Didn't seem big enough to play football or cricket... I don't think size is the deciding factor... pitch is used in general

Re: [talk-au] Another day, another bridge...

2010-07-11 Thread Simon Biber
John Henderson snow...@gmx.com Is the alternative to make (almost) the entire coastline a fishing pitch? Only where there are designated fishing areas. And by that I mean something that's visible on the ground, like a place where you can stand and fish. Not just open water which is covered by

Re: [talk-au] OSM, eat your heart out... :)

2010-07-09 Thread Simon Biber
Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: It'd be better like this: http://hello.eboy.com/eboy/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/FTN_CommunicationCity_06t.png eDuShi (meaning eCity) has made cool real isometric 3D maps of many cities in China. The style is somewhere in between cartoon and reality, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering street names across several ways

2010-06-30 Thread Simon Biber
zve...@textual.ru zve...@textual.ru wrote: Those names are not rendered, obviously, because most streets consist of several ways, due to routing and public transport reasons. Hmm, what routing reasons? The only cases where streets need to be split into multiple ways, in my experience, is

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering street names across several ways

2010-06-30 Thread Simon Biber
I just wrote simonbi...@yahoo.com.au: However, in your example area, many of the streets are divided into what seems like an unnecessarily large number of ways. If the tagging doesn't change between adjacent ways, then shouldn't the ways be merged into a single way? Sorry, please disregard

Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread Simon Biber
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 June 2010 09:55, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: No idea, but FWIW wouldn't highway=give_way be more consistent with other OSM tags? i.e. separating words with an underscore... There was only 13 of those, so it doesn't seem like

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread Simon Biber
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: They seem to be called horse stiles in NZ, or maybe it was a brit taking photos in NZ... I found the website of an Australian business, Town Country Maintenance Fencing, based in northern Adelaide. There's a clear picture and a description on

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Thread Simon Biber
Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: If I'm mapping I try and keep nodes intact and edit the tagging to preserve the ID and history, but there are cases where this can't happen. Another example where ID and history are lost is when we change items from single nodes to areas, as we get

Re: [talk-au] [Fwd:[OpenStreetMap] Tagging Tidal Ways]

2010-05-25 Thread Simon Biber
David wrote: In summary, it is 21km long and is one-way for 10.5hrs, dual-way for 1.5hr, then one-way in the opposite direction for 10.5hrs and dual-way again for 1.5hr. Then just for fun, on weekends, the day/night pattern is reversed. David, as a local resident I can tell you the Southern

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-09 Thread Simon Biber
From: Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com Have a look at Auckland NZ for some really excellent landuse mapping. Could list members also please take a look at my local area (Alberton, Rosewater, Pennington SA) where I'm nearly finished putting in all the footpaths and land use. Please do zoom in

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread Simon Biber
From: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com Cool, did you notice the first link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlement_hierarchy That kind of settles it, really. Note that when the Wikipedia article was first created, the lowest-level settlement was called Lone Farmhouse. It was changed

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-29 Thread Simon Biber
From: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com 1) They're clearly mini roundabouts. I go straight over them on my bike. You're not supposed to go over a roundabout, unless your vehicle's lack of turning ability necessitates it! :-) 2) The roads you've mapped out don't even follow the aerial photos

[talk-au] Marsh shading in Osmarender

2010-03-21 Thread Simon Biber
It seems the shading for marsh / wetland is stuffed up in north-western Adelaide (Rosewater, Gillman, Wingfield, Pennington, Athol Park), with large areas marked as marsh that shouldn't be. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.8384lon=138.5531zoom=14layers=0B00FTF Is this a bug with

Re: [talk-au] A problem area (maybe) for the someone in Canberra

2010-03-15 Thread Simon Biber
From: John Henderson snow...@gmx.com I live in Canberra and noticed the same thing some time ago. I haven't found an excuse yet to visit the specific area. But the history seems to indicate that it could be legit: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/16165199/history GPS trace of

Re: [talk-au] South Australia NPWSA Parks

2010-03-14 Thread Simon Biber
Hi Markus Please don't use sources without checking their license conditions first. The license that seems to apply is this one: http://www.naturemaps.sa.gov.au/DataDownloadLicenceAgreement.pdf Which states: The Licensee is not permitted to copy or reproduce the Datasets in any form for the