Re: [Talk-us] Gravel roads and surface tags in the US

2018-04-19 Thread Toby Murray
I think the road bed is compacted and built up to provide a crown so water runs off but the gravel itself is not compacted on the surface. So putting some numbers in here... there are only 5,700 surface=compacted ways in the US. On the other hand, there are 107,000 surface=gravel. And I am

[Talk-us] Gravel roads and surface tags in the US

2018-04-18 Thread Toby Murray
I recently bought a gravel bicycle to ride on the many gravel roads in Kansas. Like this one: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=nYO4JI46L0SWzNAQlLT4kA=photo First question: What would you call this road? Obviously I am calling it a "gravel road" but a couple of people have said they would call

Re: [OSM-talk] Large number of seemingly automated, non-SEO spam edits

2018-03-13 Thread Toby Murray
The DWG is (now) aware of it :) There are 8 accounts with changeset comments matching this pattern right now. Hoping they don't change it once they start getting blocked. Toby On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > I haven't seen anything like that in

Re: [OSM-talk] US Highway 266

2018-03-05 Thread Toby Murray
Sorry, I have been letting this disagreement simmer for too long. Since it was brought up on the mailing list, I will present my view of the situation here as well. I am not even going to say who is on which side of the argument. My goal is to just present facts and give my own opinion at the end.

Re: [OSM-talk] Privacy concerns - revive some sort of anonymous editing?

2018-03-01 Thread Toby Murray
Not to rain on your account deletion party... but it may be doing less than you think. User names get replicated out to anyone who consumes OSM data. It is in the weekly planet dump files as well as all the minutely/hourly/daily replication diff files. So your old (now deleted) user name and your

Re: [Talk-us] Pokémon Go no officially using OpenStreetMap

2017-12-04 Thread Toby Murray
On the flip side, this seems to be driving a second wave of pokemon players coming to OSM and mapping parks over their homes, changing things to footways and such nonsense. It is also driving beneficial edits though. Hopefully the helpful users will stick around longer than the trolls. Just keep

Re: [Talk-us] FBI using OSM on website... without attribution

2017-06-29 Thread Toby Murray
I would usually advocate getting law enforcement involved in an OSM licensing misstep... but someone should call the FBI! It's not just the Denver field office. The map on the nation-wide field office locator page also lacks attribution: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices I just send

Re: [Talk-us] Changesets under wrong user ID

2017-06-01 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah, there isn't any way too fix it short of an admin manually changing the database and that isn't going to happen for something like this. Commenting on the changesets is probably reasonable. Toby On Jun 1, 2017 12:42 PM, "Steve Friedl" wrote: > Isn’t the easiest thing

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

2017-01-05 Thread Toby Murray
As an ingress player, I can confirm use of ingress data for pokestops and gyms. Same location descriptions and images submitted by ingress players. Ingress saw a huge influx of new users when Pokemon Go launched. People created ingress accounts just so that they could use the ingress Intel map to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Beware Pokemon users

2017-01-05 Thread Toby Murray
As an ingress player, I can confirm use of ingress data for pokestops and gyms. Same location descriptions and images submitted by ingress players. Ingress saw a huge influx of new users when Pokemon Go launched. People created ingress accounts just so that they could use the ingress Intel map to

Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

2017-01-03 Thread Toby Murray
No, there is no evidence of diffs being used. Heck, there isn't even hard evidence that they are using OSM data at all yet. And I agree, if they are actually using OSM, it is most likely a snapshot that gets updated only periodically. But once there are enough reddit threads about it, it doesn't

Re: [Talk-us] Beware Pokemon users

2016-12-30 Thread Toby Murray
st learned about OSM through these posts and there are several posts about people seeing empty maps of their cities and getting the urge to fill them in, regardless of Pokemon activity! Toby On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> wrote: > There was a video

Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

2016-12-30 Thread Toby Murray
st learned about OSM through these posts and there are several posts about people seeing empty maps of their cities and getting the urge to fill them in, regardless of Pokemon activity! Toby On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> wrote: > There was a video

[Talk-us] Beware Pokemon users

2016-12-25 Thread Toby Murray
There was a video uploaded to YouTube a couple of days ago that claims to show some possible evidence that Pokemon Go uses data from OSM to determine good spawn locations for Pokemon. There are also several threads on reddit under /r/TheSilphRoad that have similar claims. It is amusing to see

[OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

2016-12-25 Thread Toby Murray
There was a video uploaded to YouTube a couple of days ago that claims to show some possible evidence that Pokemon Go uses data from OSM to determine good spawn locations for Pokemon. There are also several threads on reddit under /r/TheSilphRoad that have similar claims. It is amusing to see

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Toby Murray
I'm guessing they are claiming trademark rights on the term "Street View" which is not entirely unreasonable. (IANAL, etc) Toby On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Glenn Plas wrote: > Does well-know-bully-company own the word 'view' ? I don't understand > why you consider

Re: [Talk-us] North Dakota server issues

2016-11-01 Thread Toby Murray
According to some traffic on IRC, there is currently some delay in replication between the master and slave databases. Since reads are served from the slaves, this can lead to this kind of inconsistency. The reason is still unknown. It will probably be a couple of hours before it gets fixed. But

Re: [Talk-us] Check your turn:lanes

2016-08-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Jack Burke wrote: > So I take it that at least you and I are in agreement that the wiki is > deficient for branching exits like this one: > http://mapillary.com/map/im/7igAGXSa6EsUYlTIujXchw Why does this example even need any special lane

Re: [Talk-us] Check your turn:lanes

2016-08-24 Thread Toby Murray
Mind sharing the link to the GitHub issue? Do they think that "none" is an invalid option and are replacing it with a blank globally? If so, this should be shut down immediately. "none" and blank are both valid values and while I wouldn't mind seeing it be consistent, any such edit would need to

Re: [OSM-talk] SearchAroundBot: a Telegram Bot for OSM

2016-08-24 Thread Toby Murray
The tg:// URL is intended to be opened on a mobile device with the Telegram app installed. Using this link on such a device will open the Telegram app to the specified channel/group (or whatever Telegram calls it) Toby On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Dave F wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Convert Note to Node

2016-08-22 Thread Toby Murray
Well you can go to the API and get the note XML which has the lat/lon in it. The URL for this is: http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/notes/ If you are using JOSM and use the note download feature, then notes are shown on the map so you can just create a node in the same location. Note support

Re: [Talk-us] Way to message a bunch of users at once?

2016-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
Well there was already significant work done on a "groups" feature that would have let users opt in to location-specific groups. But it never got a final push to completion. The work and discussion surrounding it are in a GitHub pull request:

[Talk-us] User bumping all grade-separated intersections to motorway

2016-06-13 Thread Toby Murray
I just discovered some misguided edits and the user in question seems to have made many of them over a wide area so I thought I would put people on notice to be aware of this. While on the Biking Across Kansas tour last week I saw some odd looking segments in OsmAnd along US 36 in Kansas. I got

Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jake wrote: > I've been mapping a small section of National Forest, which straddles two > counties; Boone and Callaway. > > On every map I can find - Boone Countys GIS dept., census.gov, US Forest > Service - the county border strictly follows

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction of some Afghanistan data

2016-03-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The inclusion of a source statement in each change set of at least 3 > characters would be a helpfull start? > Did these change sets have any indication of the source? I went poking around and found some of the affected

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Toby Murray
I have set up a Slack bot using some software[1] that relays messages between a slack channel and an IRC channel. It is listening in #osm on OFTC and the #irc slack channel in Steve's team. I love my irssi+screen IRC setup however it kind of breaks down when it comes to a phone-friendly

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Toby Murray
I have set up a Slack bot using some software[1] that relays messages between a slack channel and an IRC channel. It is listening in #osm on OFTC and the #irc slack channel in Steve's team. I love my irssi+screen IRC setup however it kind of breaks down when it comes to a phone-friendly

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 Thread Toby Murray
I believe there are slack bots that can connect slack and IRC. Not sure how well they work when there is a lot of traffic on both sides. But is it something we would want to look at? Toby On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Steve Coast wrote: > Thanks I added it to the wiki. >

Re: [Talk-us] Relations and boundaries

2016-03-03 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/03/2016 08:02 PM, Steve Friedl wrote: >> I’ve been updating all the cities in Orange County California to have fully >> segmented relationalized boundaries, such that cities sharing a common >> border share

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing data in rendering database on orm

2016-02-22 Thread Toby Murray
to repeat the procedure :) The problem diff contains data from February 12th starting at 02:24 and ending at 06:31 UTC. That would have been a Thursday evening in the U.S. Changesets uploaded during this time could be affected. Toby On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Toby Murray <toby.

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing data in rendering database on orm

2016-02-22 Thread Toby Murray
s database, it could have led to some big problems. Toby On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> wrote: > I noticed something weird in the tile rendering on osm.org a couple of > days ago and after looking at several things it seems that one of the &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting a potential vandal (bryanpiczon)

2016-02-21 Thread Toby Murray
Most of the changesets I've looked at so far have been highly suspicious and there is definitely a lot of damage to the map still out there from this user. A few examples: He tagged a random industrial building as the "South Shore Plaza" mall: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29661237 South

[OSM-talk] Missing data in rendering database on orm

2016-02-21 Thread Toby Murray
I noticed something weird in the tile rendering on osm.org a couple of days ago and after looking at several things it seems that one of the rendering servers (orm) is missing data. I'm wondering if I'm the only one to see this or if anyone else has noticed something similar. What I initially

Re: [Talk-us] Why do city names display in the local language at osm.org?

2015-12-21 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah, the tiles on osm.org just straight up render the name=* tag which is supposed to contain the name of an object in the primary language of the area that it is in. I know Wikipedia has done some work on localizing maps. I believe the way they do it is to render a map without any labels and

Re: [Talk-us] Maxweight in the USA

2015-11-02 Thread Toby Murray
My view is that this isn't much different than speed limits. We don't tag maxspeed=96.5606, we tag maxspeed=60 mph. Tag what's on the sign. The complicating factor on this is of course that "ton" has at least 3 different meanings but I would generally assume that weight restrictions in the U.S.

Re: [OSM-talk] Notes: View them based on age?

2015-10-20 Thread Toby Murray
That diary comment isn't quite right. The daysClosed setting only affects what notes get downloaded from the API. If you load a note dump file, it will not filter them out. However JOSM does allow you to sort the list of notes displayed in the note panel by either date opened or last comment

Re: [Talk-us] Legislative districts, Land-use zoning, etc.

2015-10-16 Thread Toby Murray
OSM is not the ideal tool to be a dumping ground for all GIS data. It excels at holding information that users can see, verify and update. Boundaries like this cannot be seen or verified by anyone except the government agency that originally made them. So the data gains no benefit from being in

Re: [Talk-us] Should driveways be on OSM?

2015-09-28 Thread Toby Murray
I run into this as well. If I don't see anything close to the way on imagery I definitely have very little problem deleting them. I also question the access=private tagging although not because of the rendering. I mean technically it is correct I suppose but if you are trying to route to an

Re: [Talk-us] Another road classification disagreement (this time with HFCS in Kansas)

2015-09-17 Thread Toby Murray
ot; on the KDOT map so it kind of provided a secondary source to justify differing classifications. Thoughts? On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> wrote: > My general rule of thumb for highway tagging in rural Kansas is as > follows. If I know nothing else ab

Re: [Talk-us] More strangeness in Baltimore

2015-09-14 Thread Toby Murray
Agreed. The 7-Eleven shop this user added (twice - once as a node, once as a way) does not appear on the store locator on 7-eleven.com. While it wouldn't be entirely out of the question that OSM had a newer location than the chain's own store locator, the edits do seem very much the same as those

Re: [Talk-us] Another road classification disagreement (this time with HFCS in Kansas)

2015-09-06 Thread Toby Murray
My general rule of thumb for highway tagging in rural Kansas is as follows. If I know nothing else about the road I start off with US highway = primary, Kansas highway = secondary and county roads = tertiary. Then adjust as needed. For example. K-10 between Lawrence and Olathe [1] is controlled

[Talk-us] Another road classification disagreement (this time with HFCS in Kansas)

2015-09-06 Thread Toby Murray
Sorry to start another thread on this but I just had an exchange with another mapper here in Kansas that could use some more opinions. I recently reclassified US 24 west of Manhattan, KS from trunk down to primary. NE2 had bumped it up to trunk a long time ago and I never felt that this was right

Re: [Talk-us] understanding administrative boundary relations

2015-09-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote: > > Strangely, I am finding that some of the cities in California _are_ in > the system, but as ways and not as relations. This seems odd, but we > will see. Well the primary reason to use relations in boundaries is to reduce

Re: [Talk-us] understanding administrative boundary relations

2015-09-03 Thread Toby Murray
The area you linked to has no boundary data in OSM. You don't state this in your email but by pulling up the TIGER shapefile, it looks like you are wanting school district boundaries? I see one runs through the area you linked to, in the shapefile. School districts were not imported into OSM. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Reply-to header

2015-08-24 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: AFAIK this is the standard mailman configuration and not different from other lists. the reply-to you mention is mot in every mail from this list, but only in those which are from this person. that's expected. You should

Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US

2015-06-04 Thread Toby Murray
Well ok, I guess this is primarily targeted at anyone who was planning on bringing a backpack. I'm sure I can fit what I need for a day in a bag this size as well. But any normal backpack is going to be 16-18 inches tall and too large for the UN. This is what I have used at previous conferences

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US

2015-06-04 Thread Toby Murray
Well ok, I guess this is primarily targeted at anyone who was planning on bringing a backpack. I'm sure I can fit what I need for a day in a bag this size as well. But any normal backpack is going to be 16-18 inches tall and too large for the UN. This is what I have used at previous conferences

[OSM-talk] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US

2015-06-03 Thread Toby Murray
I was just preparing for my trip to SOTM-US and ran across something in the fine print that caught me by surprise so I thought I'd share. The email from the conference organizers made a note that we can not take large backpacks into the building. I assumed this meant you couldn't take the kind of

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-06-01 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah, I noticed this about the Craigslist rendering a while ago. In my case it was ways tagged as oneway=-1. Since the ways were not members of any relations and there was no other reason for them to be tagged this way, I reversed the way directions and changed the tag to oneway=yes but obviously

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapillary layers

2015-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
Not that I am aware of. Their API generally returns (geo)json. This is what is used on their website. Although by the looks of it, the traffic sign stuff is in v2 of their API which isn't documented on their Developers page. But I did find documentation on it here:

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour - Next Monday

2015-04-06 Thread Toby Murray
I was just wondering if there was a mappy hour tonight and found this email. Thought I'd send out a ping in case others weren't sure either. Hope to see some of you tonight :) Toby On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:48

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Feb 20, 2015 1:37 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: A fair number of the notes in my areas were people (usually correctly) identifying the business at a given location. Perhaps an easy form could prompt them to enter complete data. This would unburden the note system. I believe

Re: [OSM-talk] Galaxy S3 for Mapping

2015-02-02 Thread Toby Murray
I'm not sure if this was an issue with all S3s but mine had a tendency to jump back to the last place where a GPS lock was acquired for up to about 10 seconds when I first turned on an app that required GPS positioning. Not the last place I was when using GPS but the place I was when the GPS

Re: [Talk-us] Denver Area Relation Assistance

2015-01-09 Thread Toby Murray
I did a quick fix for the hole in the Denver, Denver County and Adams county relations. I may take another look at the area tonight. I saw a few oddities although I don't think they are related to your edit. I don't think way 321010352 should have aeroway tags on it since it is a member of a

Re: [Talk-us] Another use of OpenStreetMap

2015-01-06 Thread Toby Murray
Where did you find a link to that attribution page? I went looking and found a flight tracker on their website that is actually serving up tiles straight from osm.org. Not quite in line with tile usage policies I suppose but they DO have attribution on the map at least. To see it you have to find

Re: [Talk-us] Another use of OpenStreetMap

2015-01-06 Thread Toby Murray
at the 2012 SOTM-US conference in Portland. Links to the presentation are on the wiki: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_U.S._2012 Toby On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you find a link to that attribution page? I went looking and found

Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

2014-12-17 Thread Toby Murray
Has anyone tried contacting them yet? If not, I can. I've had good luck recently. I got geocaching.com to update their About maps page to reflect our new license and got the Kansas City Star to change the layout of their attribution so it wasn't hidden behind content any more. All it took was a

Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

2014-12-17 Thread Toby Murray
Well, I sent an email to the address listed on the about page and got a quick response. Apparently there was attribution originally but it somehow got dropped when they did a recent update. He understands open licensing and attribution and was very apologetic about it getting dropped. Hopefully it

Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-08 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: It is unfortunate that importers are dropping values like addr:city and addr:state during US imports. Especially when they appear to have clean data at the time of import. There are other users of the OSM data than

Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-07 Thread Toby Murray
This thread seems like a storm in a teacup. From a data perspective addr:state is not really needed. Nominatim in particular and probably other geocoders as well assign it automatically based on state (admin_level=4) boundary relations. These relations are also tagged with ref=2 letter code which

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Toby Murray
I am interested in this as well. I have two Biking Across Kansas tours worth of video and GPS traces that I still haven't gotten around to processing into map data yet. I briefly looked at the JOSM video plugin a while ago and, like someone else reported, couldn't get it working. Maybe once I

[Talk-us] Presenting your new OSM-US board

2014-10-15 Thread Toby Murray
Voting closed on the OSM-US board election last night. Michael Collinson and I acted as election observers and we are both satisfied that the election was carried out properly. So today I am happy to announce our new board members: Alyssa Wright Martijn van Exel Alex Barth Ian Dees Eleanor Tutt

Re: [OSM-talk] NY Times OSM Credits

2014-09-15 Thread Toby Murray
As of right now I see Source: Map data from OpenStreetMap. right under the map. I guess this means they fixed it pretty quickly after being notified. Yay! Toby On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm forwarding this to contacts at the NYT graphics

Re: [Talk-us] Prima Facie Speed Limits

2014-09-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-09-15 16:59 GMT+02:00 Ed Hillsman hills...@pobox.com: I agree there is a need to have a way to deal with this. Where I have checked a street, in both directions, for a posted speed limit and found

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-17 Thread Toby Murray
I opened an issue about this a year ago and apparently it came up in an EWG meeting as well. But talk and issues don't write code. https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/385 Toby On Aug 16, 2014 8:10 PM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: Am 16.08.2014 08:28, schrieb

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

2014-08-06 Thread Toby Murray
I would say the primary use of address data in OSM is geocoding, not mail delivery. There may be legitimate differences between a street name and the address of a house along that street but abbreviations are not a legitimate difference. The Census Bureau also has a list of 503 official

Re: [Talk-us] strange dead link in wiki.openstreetmap.org

2014-08-01 Thread Toby Murray
I see it on admin level 6 not 5. The way that page is constructed makes it a little harder to track down. That table isn't in the page you linked to but is some kind of template included in the page. I'm still not quite sure how all that works but the table and its history can be viewed outside

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

2014-07-30 Thread Toby Murray
I believe this was an import done in 2009. Here is an example changeset that is obviously an address import in the area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/3407483 The import is documented on the import catalog page[1] on the wiki and mentioned on the California imports page[2] as well. It

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-07-28 Thread Toby Murray
Interesting. The coverage of these notes is almost global. I don't see any in South America or Australia but otherwise there are some on each continent. I also see some reported speed limits in the U.S. in km/h which is most likely not correct. Once upon a time I suggested adding a kind of

[Talk-us] OSM mention in NPR's All Tech Considered

2014-07-08 Thread Toby Murray
It isn't the best presentation of OSM ever but we were mentioned yesterday in All Tech Considered. We are seeing a bit of a spike in new users today because of it. So watch out for new users in your area!

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Lowzoom TIles - proof of concept

2014-07-07 Thread Toby Murray
This rendering has highlighted inconsistent tagging in county borders in the U.S. However the inconsistency is only on member ways. The county boundary relations are very consistent but don't seem to be used in rendering. Should they be? I do like that counties are a little more prominent than on

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-23 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I can not search for an address in part of unincorporated King County, WA when using the postal city. Fails - 7732 234th Place Northeast, Redmond, WA The search works when omitting the postal city. The search

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Attribution

2014-06-16 Thread Toby Murray
Well it doesn't surprise me that google doesn't see any attribution, even if they had it. The only thing I can access without an account is the front page and their help site at squareup.com. And the only mention I see of maps in the help docs is definitely a google map (

Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks as footpaths

2014-04-30 Thread Toby Murray
Wait, what is the consensus method for tagging sidewalks? I haven't done a lot of them but I know I've added a few as footways myself. Toby On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.comwrote: Certainly your first move should be to contact the user, gently point

Re: [OSM-talk] Foursquare and OSM Note Instructions

2014-03-28 Thread Toby Murray
I would say that missing data is a form of error in OSM and I have used notes to indicate such things before. The only problem with adding things based only on notes is that we don't know the source or accuracy of the information, especially from anonymous notes. We get a lot of notes from

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-14 Thread Toby Murray
On Mar 14, 2014 8:24 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: Simon Poole wrote: One thing I would like to hear about in this context of this discussion, are examples of concrete use cases that are not happening because of share alike and that are in general things that the

Re: [OSM-talk] isolated odbl=clean nodes with no other tags?

2014-03-11 Thread Toby Murray
It was probably a member of a way that got removed. Maybe they forgot to add the odbl tag to the way. Or it really wasn't clean. Hard to figure out at this point. But yeah, feel free to remove it. I know JOSM automatically removes the odbl tag on any modified objects on upload. P2 and iD might as

Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways

2014-03-11 Thread Toby Murray
As Richard pointed out, we need consistency. Here in Kansas state highways are generally referred to as K-xx however in OSM they are tagged with a ref of KS xx because I feel like being consistent is more important than how they look on osm.org. And speaking of renderers, you will notice that the

Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways: Use of unique ISO/ANSI/USPS 2-letter state codes in RELATIONS as well as WAYS?

2014-03-11 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 3/11/14 7:04 PM, Peter Davies wrote: I thought I would make my proposal stand out a bit more by adding words to the title. :-O There are some weird things, like Nebraska's state law that requires NDOR to

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Toby Murray
Here, let's have some numbers. As of the last changeset dump (Feb. 28th) iD: total changesets: 1,744,610 changesets with a comment: 745,774 43% comment rate Potlatch2: total changesets: 3,594,415 changesets with comment: 1,971,298 54% comment rate JOSM: total changesets: 10,289,418 changesets

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.comwrote: On 06/03/2014, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Here, let's have some numbers. As of the last changeset dump (Feb. 28th) Interesting numbers, thanks. What these numbers don't show is how many comments

Re: [Talk-us] importing zip codes

2014-02-22 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: The USPS has a web site for giving ZIP and ZIP+4 values for specified addresses at https://tools.usps.com/go/ZipLookupAction!input.action?mode=0refresh=true As near as I can tell from the TOS at

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Toby Murray
Note that if you delete the node, the city name will no longer be rendered on osm.org or Mapquest Open. Not sure about other renderings but I'm guessing a lot of them do the same thing. Another way of fixing the nominatim problem is to create a boundary relation for the city. Move the tags from

Re: [Talk-us] Help needed with polygon/membership of admin area in Willits, CA

2014-01-26 Thread Toby Murray
In Bing imagery I see what might be a disused sewage treatment tank just to the south of the area originally highlighted. Around here that is one common thing that ends up being a separate little section of city boundary. You can easily see the whole relation on osm.org:

Re: [Talk-us] Oklahoma relations spreadsheet

2014-01-13 Thread Toby Murray
I've been maintaining a similar list of relations on the wiki for Kansas. It is a bit tedious to keep up to date though and doesn't have all the highways in the state listed yet. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kansas_state_highways#List_of_highways_and_their_status Toby On Mon, Jan 13,

Re: [Talk-us] Bing imagery update

2013-12-04 Thread Toby Murray
You can view this information in JOSM as well. If Bing is the only imagery visible you can right click and choose Show Tile Info Toby On Dec 4, 2013 5:42 PM, Martijn van Exel mart...@openstreetmap.us wrote: The HTTP response header of the tile image contains something like:

Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database

2013-11-05 Thread Toby Murray
So it seems like the get admin boundaries out of core OSM opinion has fairly decent support in the US but maybe not elsewhere. I think the reason for this is because we imported these borders a few years ago. Because the import process wasn't perfect, it created duplicate nodes wherever a border

Re: [Talk-us] Public Labs/balloon mapping?

2013-10-28 Thread Toby Murray
On the subject of RC and drones: I have been working on building myself a multirotor RC platform this year. One of the ideas behind it (besides just being fun) was to be able to go to some new construction, send it up, grab pictures and then map from them. So far I'm still stuck on the flying it

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo for Changesets?

2013-10-25 Thread Toby Murray
I wrote a bit of python a while ago to shove the weekly changeset dump into a postgres database where you can query tags. There is no snazzy front end for it though. https://github.com/ToeBee/ChangesetMD Toby On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.comwrote: Is there

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Back on topic: how do you phrase an objective rule, or at least well-worded guidelines, which allow admin boundaries but disallow time zone boundaries? I wonder where the UK ceremonial counties, fire department areas,

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Thread Toby Murray
. Rivers, roads or even hedges often define a boundary. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 21/10/2013 15:41 Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nlwrote: Back on topic: how do you phrase an objective rule, or at least well-worded

Re: [Talk-us] Question about incorrect data for an administrative area

2013-10-14 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: also, i would be remiss if i didn't point out that post office delivery addressing is only vaguely related to the actual administrative boundaries; the addressing situation for Enterprise is hardly unique, in fact

Re: [Talk-us] Current status with highway shields?

2013-10-09 Thread Toby Murray
The tiles on the OSM-US server are up and running. The preview was on Phil's home server that had limited bandwidth. A better UI to the tile layer can be found here with standard map controls and a simple search feature to jump to locations: http://bl.ocks.org/ToeBee/raw/6119134/ I have talked

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2013 Places shapefile for PA?

2013-10-07 Thread Toby Murray
That ITO map seems to be only looking at ways. If you include relations in the analysis things should actually be pretty good. There should be a (mostly) correct boundary relation for every county in the US. At one point I was the last user to have touched about 40% of them... There may very well

Re: [OSM-talk] Outperforming TomTom

2013-09-12 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Lauris Bukšis-Haberkorns lafr...@gmail.com wrote: Free version of such data would be great and as I allways have data on on my phone I won't have problem with that. I was thinking on implementing something like that but at least for me, main problem is

Re: [Talk-us] map data error page at gps.gov

2013-09-05 Thread Toby Murray
This: when we update the page combined with This story was originally published in May 2011. We made minor text edits in November 2011. doesn't exactly make me want to hold my breath :) Toby On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Toby Murray
We aren't trying to make The Perfect Editor here. We are trying to replace an aging editor with something more current. Let us not make perfection the enemy of progress. Of course there are still improvements to be made but iD is definitely a fantastic bit of code. We can keep bikeshedding it

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see PL1 since months in the edit tab, thought it was retired because of 64bit node IDs. If there is a trick to still get it to use I'd be interested because of the deleted ways function. cheers,

Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-08-09 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Aug 8, 2013 9:42 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: [As an aside, the 'N' and 'E' on Douglas County roads do *not* stand for 'North' or 'East,'] Well, it does, since they're defining range and plat

Re: [OSM-talk] In the works: iD 1.1

2013-08-08 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: One minor query: As with Tom Hughes test page, these require a separate login, or use OpenID. I presume any edits done under these wont appear under my user name for the main web page login. Is there a way for these test

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