Re: [OSM-talk] Plus code grid service

2018-11-19 Thread djakk djakk
Well, it is possible for a human to memorize it :) Julien « djakk » Le lun. 19 nov. 2018 à 17:22, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > It is still not clear to me why new way of writing latitude and longitude > is supposed to be interesting. > > 19. Nov 2018 16:43 by drinc...@google.com: > > We're re

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-10 Thread djakk djakk
No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization ;) djakk Le ven. 10 août 2018 à 12:15, Andy Townsend a écrit : > > > So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't > incorrect, it's just not documented. > > I'd suggest that it depends what

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-08 Thread djakk djakk
A linear road is also a surface, the surface is useless at zoom=8 but useful at zoom=16. Like waterways, both can coexist. djakk Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 18:19, Tobias Knerr a écrit : > On 08.08.2018 12:49, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > > Due to our rules, that we shouldn't have 2 active tagging > > sc

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-08 Thread djakk djakk
I don’t get why highway=footway + area=yes is considered as wrong tagging ! djakk Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 12:52, Tomasz Wójcik a écrit : > As highway=footway etc. tags are set to "should not be used on areas" on > Wiki, and mapping them in combination with area=yes is not documented at > all a

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread djakk djakk
févr. 2018 à 14:22, djakk djakk a écrit : > Yes, we should be able to tag secondary motorway or secondary motorroads. ( > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/48.8719/2.4496 - https > ://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.57211/-2.82279)

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread djakk djakk
epublic? By similar logic the outer border of Czech > Republic > >> should be approximately admin_level=4 (to match US states) and trust me > that > >> EU integration is not yet at the point where that would be acceptable. > :) > >> > >> Let's get

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread djakk djakk
Matej, you don’t have to answer quickly, you can answer one time per week if you prefer, the strong arguments will still weight well :) djakk Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 10:30, djakk djakk a écrit : > There is 2 « independant » things in the debate : > 1) trunk definition - what is a tr

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread djakk djakk
ing to spend on arguing with some > random person who wants to break our local road classification system > "because it will look nicer". > > On 24 February 2018 at 07:59, djakk djakk wrote: > >> Yes, but this rendering does not change when a road crosses

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
Yes, but this rendering does not change when a road crosses a border ^^ djakk Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 05:43, JB a écrit : > There is something I don't get. > Draw primary the same color as trunk and you have no more « > discontinuity »? > In France, some commercial map (the most sold, I think)

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
I would tag the amount of traffic (official count or estimation) + the width of the lanes (bidirectional with no hard shoulder ?) + an appropriated renderer to show heavy traffic + narrow road with a thin red stroke. Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 21:28, Mark Wagner a écrit : > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
renderer parse access tags to decide how to represent >> the way? (I believe that was the intention when motorroad=* was >> proposed.) >> >> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:29 PM, djakk djakk >> wrote: >> > Don’t worry, when the official system is good, lik in Czechi

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
ssification system. > > On 23 February 2018 at 18:06, Fernando Trebien > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Administrative classification is not strictly related everywhere to >> signage, structure and access rights. >> >> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:12 PM, djakk dj

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
a clearly defined road classification, but > please don't touch the countries where there is no doubt about what class > any given road is. > Happy mapping! > > On 22 February 2018 at 16:20, djakk djakk wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I totally agree with you,

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-22 Thread djakk djakk
Hello, I totally agree with you, the definition you provide, administrative-free, tends to the same osm map between countries. djakk Le jeu. 15 févr. 2018 à 19:18, Fernando Trebien a écrit : > Landing on this discussion several months late. I've just heard of it > by reading a wiki talk page [

Re: [OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

2017-09-16 Thread djakk djakk
Wikidata+OSM as the long name, and w+OSM or wOSM as the short name ? :) 2017-09-16 23:11 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan : > The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most > important thing - a good name. So far my two choices are: > > * wikosm > * wikidosm > > Suggestions? Vote

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-27 Thread djakk djakk
; as used in Japan or UK, with trunk as super-primary, or a new key "importance" which almost duplicates the highway value (trunk or super_primary, primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary, local) Maybe I should make a test map and come back later :) djakk 2017-08-24 2:09 GMT+02:00 Greg

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-23 Thread djakk djakk
motorway but it has a sidewalk) djakk Le mer. 23 août 2017 à 13:33, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > > sent from a phone > > On 23. Aug 2017, at 11:54, djakk djakk wrote: > > I think there are five keys to tag a road : > 1) its importance in the network (super-pri

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-23 Thread djakk djakk
tagging system shuffles those 5 keys, "motorway" implies 2) motorway signs 3) no at-grade intersections 4) large lanes 5) asphalt surface, but for 1) it could be super-primary or just primary (think about suburban motorways network). djakk Le mer. 23 août 2017 à 11:14, djakk djakk a écri

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-23 Thread djakk djakk
01:26, Greg Troxel a écrit : > > djakk djakk writes: > > > Yes Martin, I meant "physical characteristics". In the US, a road is > tagged > > "trunk" according to its physical characteristics, as Greg said > previously > > in this thread. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread djakk djakk
Yes Martin, I meant "physical characteristics". In the US, a road is tagged "trunk" according to its physical characteristics, as Greg said previously in this thread. Le mar. 22 août 2017 à 11:06, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > > sent from a phone > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread djakk djakk
ester Caine a écrit : > On 21/08/17 21:09, djakk djakk wrote: > > Actualy, "highway=*" shuffles importance and characteristic of roads. > > May we add an "importance" key to roads ? > > Having spent the last week using OSMAND to navigate around the > W

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-21 Thread djakk djakk
Actualy, "highway=*" shuffles importance and characteristic of roads. May we add an "importance" key to roads ? djakk Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 13:14, djakk djakk a écrit : > Well, it is technically possible, but I was thinking about performance and > stylesheet-main

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread djakk djakk
Well, it is technically possible, but I was thinking about performance and stylesheet-maintenance issues ;) Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 12:49, ajt1...@gmail.com a écrit : > On 20/08/2017 11:36, djakk djakk wrote: > > > > Why I want to do that ? To improve openstreetmap, this is a wo

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread djakk djakk
I'm pretty sure that the use of "trunk" in UK or in Japan is about the importance of the road, not about its characteristics : https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/vBqrj5uGYBw05cd57g9TAg (this is the trunk road linked in my previous mail ; there is pavement on the right side) Why I want to do that ? T

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread djakk djakk
> > So basically: please don't go adjusting roads in the US away from > established rough consensus because you think it ought to be different. Of course ;-) Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 04:00, Greg Troxel a écrit : > > djakk djakk writes: > > > In England and Japan

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread djakk djakk
ee no reason why a trunk road has to continue inside village > boundaries, where the maxspeed is e.g. limited to 50. > > regards > > m > > > > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, djakk djakk > wrote: > > "strategic" may not be the right word (my english is

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread djakk djakk
"strategic" may not be the right word (my english is rusty :) ) The thing is, I want to avoid those dotted highway=trunk like this : https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/48.5884/-1.4035 (trunk then primary in the town then trunk again), I'd prefer trunk - still trunk in the town - trunk, like in

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread djakk djakk
table definition is > found. For example, in the Netherlands an "autoweg" is usually mapped to > highway=trunk. These roads are indicated by a standard sign which you may > recognise (I don't know where you come from I'm afraid): > > > https://nl.wikipedia.org/wi

[OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-18 Thread djakk djakk
Hello, highway=trunk is very different between countries, in France it is used for motorway-like roads (dual carriageway), so the same road is sometimes highway=primary and sometimes highway=trunk (example with the N7 road : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/46.6303/3.2700), whereas in England