Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-14 Thread Nick Black
Agree - thanks for pointing this out. We'll work on making the TCs easier to understand. -- Nick On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net wrote: On 09/06/10 19:47, Nick Black wrote: Sorry you've hit problems with our TCs  - its certainly not our intention to block

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/06/10 10:09, Gervase Markham wrote: My first effort involved an SVG export of the Mapnik image from the main website. This is pretty good; the only problem is that the roads are unnecessarily narrow and so the road names are small and hard to read. In the end, I went with this. I would

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/06/10 20:32, Colin Marquardt wrote: FWIW, these icons here are awesome: http://www.sjjb.co.uk/mapicons/ Those _are_ awesome. Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/06/10 11:49, Gervase Markham wrote: It was me who said that, actually. Here are a few comments, mostly in relation to the Mapnik style: Oops. That is, in comparison to the Mapnik style. The comments are, of course, about Osmarender. Gerv ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Sam Vekemans
Thanks Colin, I'll be able to enhance the map renderings, when i take the screenview of HikeBikeMap.de / Cyclemap / mapnik / (anymap) and just manually plop in those icons overtop of where they currently render (but just at a different zoom). Awesome, i'll also be able to create a custom style

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 8 June 2010 05:32, Colin Marquardt cmarq...@googlemail.com wrote: FWIW, these icons here are awesome: http://www.sjjb.co.uk/mapicons/ (they are the successor/evolution of the svg-twotone ones that OSM's Mapnik style uses, CC-0, authored by Brian Quinion). Does anyone know of any suitably

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Dane Springmeyer
On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: On 05/06/10 10:09, Gervase Markham wrote: My first effort involved an SVG export of the Mapnik image from the main website. This is pretty good; the only problem is that the roads are unnecessarily narrow and so the road names are small and

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Nick Black
Hi Gerv, Sorry you've hit problems with our TCs - its certainly not our intention to block your use. So long as you respect the terms of CC-by-SA and don't exceed the limits on the use of our Vector Stream Server, posted here: http://support.cloudmade.com/answers/specialist-tools - there will

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-09 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/06/10 19:47, Nick Black wrote: Sorry you've hit problems with our TCs - its certainly not our intention to block your use. So long as you respect the terms of CC-by-SA and don't exceed the limits on the use of our Vector Stream Server, posted here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-07 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/06/10 17:46, Gary68 wrote: could you please be a little bit more precise what you don't like at osmarender and especially mapgen.pl? It was me who said that, actually. Here are a few comments, mostly in relation to the Mapnik style:

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-07 Thread Gary68
hi, thanks for the information. i thought that some issues were related to the style file but of course some are technology inherent - and might need heavy thinking and development before being solved. at least speaking for mapgen.pl regarding mapgen: - the icon issues could be solved quickly by

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Gerv, Gervase Markham wrote: I'd like to render a map of about a square mile or so of the town of Bromley, in Kent, for the information sheet for my wedding in August (yay!). I guess by now you have an idea of the kind of trouble you're signing up to by getting married ;-) If you * are

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-07 Thread Colin Marquardt
2010/6/7 Gary68 g...@gary68.de: regarding mapgen: - the icon issues could be solved quickly by the user (by drawing or using new ones) FWIW, these icons here are awesome: http://www.sjjb.co.uk/mapicons/ (they are the successor/evolution of the svg-twotone ones that OSM's Mapnik style uses,

[OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-06 Thread Seventy 7
://www.maposmatic.org/ as it has SVG export. Steve    From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Igor Brejc Sent: 06 June 2010 06:06 To: Gervase Markham Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-06 Thread Gervase Markham
On 06/06/10 13:52, Seventy 7 wrote: Yes, Maperitive would be ideal. Although the SVG export is not yet done, quality (ie large) bitmaps can be done with a scale command to smooth out pixellation. I got as far as getting it running (it needs System.Window.Forms; on Ubuntu, run sudo apt-get

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-06 Thread john whelan
You actually get a lot of control but it isn't user friendly out of the box. I've done a write up here on how to run it from a .bat file and you can edit the rules off line with this method. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maperitive#How_to Cheerio John On 6 June 2010 10:44, Gervase Markham

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-06 Thread Gary68
dear ian, could you please be a little bit more precise what you don't like at osmarender and especially mapgen.pl? of course a lot of appearance is defined in the style file and the symbols being used - i didn't spend much time there! (i was challenged by the render engine). it (mapgen) is not

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-06 Thread Seventy 7
...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham Sent: 06 June 2010 15:45 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map On 06/06/10 13:52, Seventy 7 wrote: Yes, Maperitive would be ideal. Although the SVG export is not yet done

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-06 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi everyone, FYI WikiTravel offers instructions on how to create a 'WikiTravel Style' Map (using OSM data) http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:How_to_create_a_map (the instructions require super-human powers, that i dont have yet, but others might be able to translate it to WikiMap for

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-06 Thread Igor Brejc
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net wrote: But, not wanting to knock the hard work of you or others, even before I looked at making style changes, it seemed fairly clear that the text rendering wasn't nearly as nice as Mapnik's. I know about text rendering

[OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi, I'd like to render a map of about a square mile or so of the town of Bromley, in Kent, for the information sheet for my wedding in August (yay!). http://osm.org/go/0EEBWURG I want to make the map, then remove a few bits which I don't need and add stuff to it like bigger labels on some

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Jochen Topf
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 10:09:15AM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: - Cloudmade: initially, this seemed really promising. They have a variety of styles, and I probably could make one with wider roads, but the Terms of Service are so long and complex, and say don't do anything with this

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/06/10 12:12, Jochen Topf wrote: Cloudmade uses OSM like everybody else under CC-BY-SA. They can't change that license, they can't restrict what you can do with it. But if I use their stylesheets and their site to generate maps, they can restrict what I can do with the resulting

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 June 2010 22:10, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net wrote: On 05/06/10 12:12, Jochen Topf wrote: Cloudmade uses OSM like everybody else under CC-BY-SA. They can't change that license, they can't restrict what you can do with it. But if I use their stylesheets and their site to generate

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! But if I use their stylesheets and their site to generate maps, they can restrict what I can do with the resulting renderings, right? No. Its a derived work from OSM and as such falls under the CC-BY-SA and only the CC-BY-SA. They can restrict the use of their site, but not of the map.

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Ian Dees
n Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net wrote: Hi, I'd like to render a map of about a square mile or so of the town of Bromley, in Kent, for the information sheet for my wedding in August (yay!). http://osm.org/go/0EEBWURG I want to make the map, then remove a

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello! I'm interested in this, too, because I want to draw OSM data in my car computer as a sort of GPS satnav/realtime editor. See libosmscout.sf.net. It is designed as a library for offline map drawing (however not editing) in mobile devices. It is a renderer (and router) optimized for

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Lennard
On 5-6-2010 14:53, Ian Dees wrote: Dane (of Mapnik fame) suggested I use Mapnik with the OSM data plugin. That cuts out the majority of the setup time due to PostGIS install and import of OSM data. However, the time you save by not having to set up PostGIS will be spent on creating your own

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: It would take an age to change it all manually in the SVG. What are my options for a custom render? FWIW: Halcyon, the Flash rendering engine used in Potlatch 2, uses a simple CSS-like style language called MapCSS and would be an easy way right now to produce a bitmap

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom rendering of a small map

2010-06-05 Thread Igor Brejc
- Maperitive: it runs on Linux too, and in a few weeks I hope I'll be able to finish the SVG export functionality. Regards, Igor On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.netwrote: Hi, I'd like to render a map of about a square mile or so of the town of Bromley, in