Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-13 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Igor Brejc To: David Groom Cc: David Earl ; Artem Pavlenko ; talk Openstreetmap Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular David Groom wrote: I'll edit the wiki. Could you

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-13 Thread serge karamazov
I agree with Thomas, we could tag rivers like we do for coastlines. If the river is connected to a coastline it would be rendered by the coastline rendering process. If it's not, it could be rendered the same way lakes are. If we need to draw a way across the river to close it, it's fine by me:

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-12 Thread Artem Pavlenko
-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular On 8 Feb 2008, at 12:05, David Earl wrote: On 08/02/2008 11:54, David Groom wrote: You mean like http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Proposed/ Rivers, which would be my ideal, Ah, yes. I was suggesting putting

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-11 Thread Igor Brejc
David Groom wrote: I'll edit the wiki. Could you put some visual examples, please? Artem, what i had in mind is now shown on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Proposed/Rivers David G I'm a bit late in entering this discussion,

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/02/2008, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/02/2008, David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem area seems to be that some people do not like the current proposal whereby a river is divided up in to separate closed areas. The reason being that the segment

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 08/02/2008, David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem area seems to be that some people do not like the current proposal whereby a river is divided up in to separate closed areas. The reason being that the segment crossing the river to close the area marks a boundary which does

[OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Groom
The proposed tag waterway = river, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Large_rivers , has been at proposal stage for over 18 months, which seems far too long for a tag which represents such an important feature. The main problem area seems to be that some people do not

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Andy Allan
On Feb 8, 2008 11:09 AM, Artem Pavlenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can make osm2pgsql or coastline tools to create polygons, but why not create them in the first place ? Can someone enlighten me, please ? If I wanted to draw the rivers as light blue* with dark blue riverbanks, wouldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 11:27, David Earl wrote: You could do it as a relation. The river bank would be a set of ways (each of which shares its end nodes with the ends of one of the others), and you could have a role for the one or two ways which close the loop which says this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular On Feb 8, 2008 11:39 AM, David

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 11:26, Andy Allan wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 11:09 AM, Artem Pavlenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can make osm2pgsql or coastline tools to create polygons, but why not create them in the first place ? Can someone enlighten me, please ? If I wanted to draw the rivers as

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 8, 2008 11:39 AM, David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem area seems to be that some people do not like the current proposal whereby a river is divided up in to separate closed areas. The reason being that the segment crossing the river to close the area marks a boundary

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 10:39, David Groom wrote: The proposed tag waterway = river, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/ Large_rivers , has been at proposal stage for over 18 months, which seems far too long for a tag which represents such an important feature. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
David Groom wrote: Sent: 08 February 2008 10:40 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular The proposed tag waterway = river, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Large_rivers , has been at proposal stage for over

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Artem Pavlenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED]; talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Artem Pavlenko
On 8 Feb 2008, at 12:05, David Earl wrote: On 08/02/2008 11:54, David Groom wrote: You mean like http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Proposed/Rivers, which would be my ideal, Ah, yes. I was suggesting putting in the connections across the river as well, but there isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread David Earl
You could do it as a relation. The river bank would be a set of ways (each of which shares its end nodes with the ends of one of the others), and you could have a role for the one or two ways which close the loop which says this is structural, not really part of the river bank. The renderer

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Thomas Walraet
The large river problem is also related to the closed coastline one. I don't like having to decide where I close coastlines at the end of a large river. Couldn't we tag riverbank with the same rules as coastline, and let them both be processed by the same pre-processor ? Using this method,

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers

2008-01-29 Thread Simone Cortesi
Message From: David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, 28 January, 2008 1:16:50 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers - Original Message - From: Chris Hill To: David Groom ; Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Hill
: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers - Original Message - From: Simone Cortesi To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers Hi, is there anything going on withthe Large Rivers proposed feature? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Hill
From: David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, 28 January, 2008 1:16:50 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers - Original Message - From: Chris Hill To: David Groom ; Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers

2008-01-28 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED]; talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers I've use the waterway=riverbank (as described) on the Humber estuary, the Ouse

[OSM-talk] Large Rivers

2008-01-27 Thread Simone Cortesi
Hi, is there anything going on withthe Large Rivers proposed feature? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Large_rivers For the time being, how do I tag large water bodies? Like the Po river in North Italy or Rhine in Deutschland? Thanks, S. -- Simone Cortesi All that