On 2013-04-20 09:49, Clifford Snow wrote:
I think I understand that the existing administrative levels dont
work. In the US at least, the reservations have a domestic
dependent nation status. They are not States, Counties yet contain
cities. The often extend past state boundaries, and
On 21.04.2013 21:33, Clifford Snow wrote:
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org
mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I still maintain Scotland, North Ireland and Wales are analogous
situations
You might then include Iraqi Kurdistan. I don't know how
Johnson
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Native American/First Nation, etc. Reservation
Boundaries
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
I cant speak for the US, but tagging of them in BC was set back by
people
pushing the view that they should be tagged as provinces
hi,
...
Reservation-boundary might cross a first admin boundary, so two admin=3's
might cross/hit oneself. You need to establish for these meta-state
situation a distinction-term - or create a seperate boundary system - or
make-up the admin-levels by adding more levels (f.e. 40-49) - like in
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
Are there any reservations on or near the I-5/I-405 between Canada and
Bellevue? I can divert on my way to Issaquah to attempt to ground truth
some
of this.
You'll drive next to the Tulalip Indian Reservation starting at
On Apr 21, 2013 12:29 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
It's a little bit of a chicken/egg thing right now. As far as I'm
aware, rendering of tribal nations went offline in mapnik around the time I
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I wonder if someone would be willing to make a proper proposal for 3 and 5.
I'd be willing, but not after more research. I think we need to fully
understand the autonomy of tribes and how exactly they fit into the
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote:
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.orgwrote:
I wonder if someone would be willing to make a proper proposal for 3 and
5.
I'd be willing, but not after more research. I think we need to
Am 21/apr/2013 um 19:59 schrieb Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org:
Is rendering the issue or tagging?
Yes.
IMHO we should get the tagging right and rendering will follow. As we don't
have similar situations in Europe it is unlikely that this is already
implemented
cheers,
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote:
In the US, Federally recognized tribes seem to be somewhere equal to state
or higher, thus admin level 3 would seem more appropriate. But then there
are cases where the the tribe occupies a small city. Question, how
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Am 21/apr/2013 um 19:59 schrieb Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org:
Is rendering the issue or tagging?
Yes.
IMHO we should get the tagging right and rendering will follow. As we
don't have similar
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I still maintain Scotland, North Ireland and Wales are analogous situations
You might then include Iraqi Kurdistan. I don't know how it is rendered,
but it sounds very similar.
--
Clifford
OpenStreetMap: Maps with a
...
hi,
here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary=protected_area
something is prepared.
may be
boundary=protected_area
+ protect_class=24
+ protection_title=...
best,
tshrub
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OK, but would you apply this to Scotland and Wales? Because that's an
analogous situation in the UK.
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:33 AM, tshrub my-email-confirmat...@online.dewrote:
...
hi,
here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary=protected_area
something is prepared.
may be
Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org writes:
OK, but would you apply this to Scotland and Wales? Because that's an
analogous situation in the UK.
basic is, to mark the reservation situation worldwide by two tags - to
become rendered (once).
A fine tuning you have to align by additional
On 2013-04-20 19:24, Paul Johnson wrote:
OK, but would you apply this to Scotland and Wales? Because that's an
analogous situation in the UK.
Not really.
Scotland/England/Wales are clearly administrative boundaries, and they
are tagged as such in OSM. And they fit in the hierarchy of admin
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
As previously stated, admin levels 3 and 5 depending on status as a nation
or reservation, respectively.
Looking at the admin levels, I agree 3 and 5 would appear to fit. But
boundary=domestic_dependent_nation (not a
On Apr 20, 2013 7:23 PM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On 2013-04-20 19:24, Paul Johnson wrote:
OK, but would you apply this to Scotland and Wales? Because that's an
analogous situation in the UK.
Not really.
Scotland/England/Wales are clearly administrative boundaries, and
On Apr 20, 2013 8:53 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
One part of my original message I still need help with. Why aren't we
adding these boundaries to OSM? If it is just that no one as added any or
is there an issue I'm not aware of? Personally I'd like to start adding in
these
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Native American/First Nation, etc. Reservation
Boundaries
One part of my original message I still need help with. Why aren't we
adding these boundaries to OSM? If it is just
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
It's a little bit of a chicken/egg thing right now. As far as I'm aware,
rendering of tribal nations went offline in mapnik around the time I
pointed out the overly broad tagging and that having most of Oklahoma and
big
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
I can’t speak for the US, but tagging of them in BC was set back by people
pushing the view that they should be tagged as provinces. There were also
issues that someone imported a bunch without geometry or tag cleanup.
In
Looking at the wiki for help understanding why we don't have boundaries
reservations has left me confused. Can someone explain why they are not
there and if there is any plans to add them at some point in the future?
From personal experience, it is important to know when you are on tribal
lands.
The previous tagging was inadequate, bordering on offensive (particularly
with the rendering, which suggested indian nations and reservations were
the same and more of a touristic draw than administratively significant).
I've suggested using administrative level 3 and 5 for the purpose in north
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
The previous tagging was inadequate, bordering on offensive
Which tagging was that?
It is my understanding that First Nations boundaries just don't fit within
the simple number-line model that OpenStreetMap has used for
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
The previous tagging was inadequate, bordering on offensive
Which tagging was that?
It is my understanding that First Nations boundaries just
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.orgwrote:
The previous tagging was inadequate, bordering on offensive
Which
As previously stated, admin levels 3 and 5 depending on status as a nation
or reservation, respectively.
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Richard
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