Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread Igor Brejc
I thought that's why the boundary should move, the river moving means the border moves, doesn't it? Does it? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.7682lon=18.8893zoom=12layers=B000FTF http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.991lon=17.329zoom=11layers=B000FTF

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 April 2010 17:29, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: Does it? From a legal point of view. Legally the border between NSW and Vic is the southern bank of the Murray River, it was set this way to try and end border disputes between the states, however over time the river moves and caused

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread Igor Brejc
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:42 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 6 April 2010 17:29, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: Does it? From a legal point of view. Legally the border between NSW and Vic is the southern bank of the Murray River, it was set this way to try and end

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 April 2010 18:00, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about NSW and Vic case, but in the above cases the official Well we're talking about this specific case and the border is based on the southern bank of the main flow of the river. borders were set as exact geo points,

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Gregory wrote: Sent: 06 April 2010 6:18 AM To: John Smith Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas On 5 April 2010 20:35, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 April 2010 13:19, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: The river

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:17:33 To: John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
-Original Message- From: Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:29:53 To: John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:04 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 6 April 2010 18:00, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about NSW and Vic case, but in the above cases the official Well we're talking about this specific case and the border is based on the

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:04 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 April 2010 18:00, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com mailto:igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about NSW and Vic case, but in the above

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread Phil! Gold
* John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com [2010-04-05 23:35 EDT]: On 6 April 2010 13:19, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Particularly on the River Murray, where the southern bank is defined as the boundary. I thought that's why the boundary should move, the river moving means the border moves,

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 April 2010 23:10, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Do you have a legal document or court case or something stating that? I tried to dig up relevant links from the talk-au list but wasn't able to find the them, maybe Liz will be able to point them out, however I did find this pdf:

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 April 2010 23:19, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: And that's all not even considering plate tectonics. Most of that is mitigated by regional datums, that these days share the same ellipsod as GPS, in the case of Australia it's DGA94. ___

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-05 Thread Liz
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: I don't understand. Surely you would create a boundary relation that uses the way representing the river to construct the boundary - rather than tracing the boundary line over the river line and having two separate ways? That correcting the river

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 April 2010 13:19, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: The river can move, but leave the boundary behind. Why leave the boundary? Particularly on the River Murray, where the southern bank is defined as the boundary. I thought that's why the boundary should move, the river moving means the

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-05 Thread Gregory
On 5 April 2010 20:35, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 April 2010 13:19, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: The river can move, but leave the boundary behind. Why leave the boundary? Because people living under water in the area between the old-south bank and new-south bank