Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-15 Thread Warin
On 15/03/2015 11:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 14.03.2015 um 23:49 schrieb mick bare...@tpg.com.au: One issue I hope those people expending mental energy on improving the tagging scheme will keep in mind are the limitations existing in GIS packages in respect of the number of fields

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 14.03.2015 um 23:49 schrieb mick bare...@tpg.com.au: One issue I hope those people expending mental energy on improving the tagging scheme will keep in mind are the limitations existing in GIS packages in respect of the number of fields and the maximum field length. This is not an

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-14 Thread Pierre Béland
-talk] Second decade visions On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 03:54:34 +0100 Daniel Koć dan...@xn--ko-wla.pl wrote: W dniu 13.03.2015 13:03, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): indeed, man_made=works is working the same way as amenity=school, it is used on the whole area, and also place_of_worship

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-14 Thread mick
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 03:54:34 +0100 Daniel Koć dan...@xn--ko-wla.pl wrote: W dniu 13.03.2015 13:03, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): indeed, man_made=works is working the same way as amenity=school, it is used on the whole area, and also place_of_worship is used on the whole sacred area

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-13 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 13.03.2015 13:03, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): indeed, man_made=works is working the same way as amenity=school, it is used on the whole area, and also place_of_worship is used on the whole sacred area (which typically coincides with the church). That's what we have now (forgetting

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-13 0:33 GMT+01:00 Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: The schoolyard is not that different than churchyard or even industrial area. There can be some special facilities inside (pitch, cemetery, warehouse) that can have special purposes (recreation, religious cult, storing goods) - or not at

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-12 Thread SomeoneElse
How about just less chat*, more mapping? Cheers, Andy * endless tagging list discussions, wikivotes etc. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-12 13:08 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: [landuse=farmland; farmland=greenhouse_horticulture] instead of [landuse=greenhouse_horticulture] this was discussed and is kind of an edge case. Could also be seen as industrial usage maybe? Officially I guess that

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote there are no actual cases of landuse=copper_mine in our db, zero. The 1000 landuse=mine (very few compared to a total of 13M landuse tags and 104K cases of quarry). Please let's talk about actual tags,

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
while this sounds nice for the green poodle with 6 legs, I'd be interested in real cases where our current schemes should be changed [landuse=farmland; farmland=greenhouse_horticulture] instead of [landuse=greenhouse_horticulture] [landuse=industrial; industrial=salt_pond] instead of

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-12 12:06 GMT+01:00 Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: 1. It should be more uniform (like amenity=school - landuse=school for the school areas). this might be a philosophical question, but I believe that amenity=school for the whole area is more precise than amenity=school on just a building.

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 12.03.2015 12:26, SomeoneElse napisał(a): How about just less chat*, more mapping? 1. I make so much mapping that I don't want any more, thank you very much! =} 2. More mapping won't create the opportunity to rethink anything strategic-wise, it will just give us more data (which is

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 12.03.2015 12:48, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): this might be a philosophical question, but I believe that amenity=school for the whole area is more precise than amenity=school on just a building. The outdoor areas of schools typically serve for recreation purposes, and recreation is

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-11 Thread Warin
On 11/03/2015 9:53 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: 4. Redesigning some key tagging schemes I think that will be one of the hardest think to change, but while tag crafting is mostly a grassroot process, we need to rethink some of them in a more systematic way. For example amenity=school should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-11 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 11.03.2015 7:27, Jo napisał(a): My solution is to use MapCSS and filtering in JOSM to cope with this problem. I know this method and it's good enough for now, but I was talking about strategic thinking, not about the advanced functionality of just one tool. It should be something

[OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-10 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 10.03.2015 3:52, Alex Barth napisał(a): Casting the net a little wider: What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State of the Map? I'm not sure what does this mean for SotM (?), but here