I'm reviewing the fixes and adding changeset comments. The fixes are
mostly good. It seems Hannah is occasionally adding area=yes on
accident.
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Hi, and thank you for the cleanup efforts!
Please note that in some cases, people added buildings on top of
buildings. Depending on your QA software, this can be hard to spot
because it does not show up in diffs.
> Have you already corrected or
> reverted some of the errors that were noted?
I re
Hi All,
Ray, Hannah, Ryan and I have been correcting and validating for the last
few hours to bring things back to good. Have you already corrected or
reverted some of the errors that were noted?
We noticed and corrected the following errors:
- lines used as area markers
- regions were not tagged
On Sat, 2017-11-04 at 15:23 -0400, john whelan wrote:
> You need to be given permission but having editted on OSM is not a
> requirement.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 4 Nov 2017 3:20 pm, "Safwat Halaby" wrote:
>
> > Can anyone create HOT OSM tasks? Is there an entry barrier?
> >
> > The creator of
You need to be given permission but having editted on OSM is not a
requirement.
Cheerio John
On 4 Nov 2017 3:20 pm, "Safwat Halaby" wrote:
> Can anyone create HOT OSM tasks? Is there an entry barrier?
>
> The creator of task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3441 only has 5
> edits.
>
> _
Can anyone create HOT OSM tasks? Is there an entry barrier?
The creator of task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3441 only has 5
edits.
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On 31/10/2017 16:00, john whelan wrote:
Often they have no knowledge of OpenStreetMap or their local area. To
them it's just helping the Red Cross or whatever.
Everybody (unless they're "serving life without parole") has knowledge
of _some_ local area. If people really don't know what they
I don't think that Andy's suggestions will work very well in practice.
The reason is that a maperthon is often organised by someone such as a
teacher who is looked on as an authority figure so their instructions will
carry more weight with the new mappers and the mappers themselves often
take the
For info, here's an example changeset discussion comment I've just
written. Where new mappers are not quite getting the hang of things
it'd be great if before someone leaps to the mailing list to either
complain abot or defend HOT and HOT mappers they could offer them advice
and help about how
Hi,
I spoke with the person responsible for the projects and they are out
sick but aware of this thread and as soon as they are back on their
feet this week, will get to working on the issue, it is a high
priority for them.
Regards,
Blake
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Blake Girardot wrote:
>
Greetings,
I have also reached out to the person responsible for the projects
both originally when brought up and just again today, but not heard
back from them yet. Should I not hear back from the project creator
today or tomorrow, I will probably temporarily remove the projects and
the person wh
Hi,
On 31.10.2017 14:50, Pierre Béland wrote:
> I suggest to transform this to an «Awesome OSM Geoweek» with focus on
> the quality of edits, quality of leadership, of coaching of new
> contributors.
Yes, but we must be careful to explain what "quality" means to us.
For example, if someone trac
For the OSM Geoweek in november, Invitations are made for groups, universities,
etc. to create their own Mapathon.
I suggest to transform this to an «Awesome OSM Geoweek» with focus on the
quality of edits, quality of leadership, of coaching of new contributors.
Otherwise, this will simply be a
On 31/10/2017 12:43, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Have we found out anything about this yet?
None of the users who have entries in changeset discussions have
commented in those discussions, including the person who created the
task at HOT. I also don't see any attempt to tidy up the data after the
Hi,
On 29.10.2017 19:42, Andy Townsend wrote:
> I'm sure that these new mappers mean well, but they
> clearly haven't understood the task that they've been asked to perform
> (or perhaps that task was somewhat inappropriate for brand-new users in
> a place as densely populated as the West Bank). T
On Sun, 2017-10-29 at 15:47 -0700, Mark Wagner wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:15:18 +0200
> Safwat Halaby wrote:
>
> > - Adding closed ways with area=yes instead of building=yes, or with
> > no
> > tags at all
>
> A closed way with "area=yes" is a *very* common newbie mistake with
> iD:
> the u
Actually area=yes in Africa isn't that bad. In JOSM I quite often come
across a settlement with thirty buildings drawn but not tagged and its a
lot faster to select the area, validate it then add tags to thirty
buildings at once rather than map thirty buildings. You do need to check
them visually
Some time ago I suggested that the user should choose the preset and *then*
draw a feature. Such reversal is logical, allows to disable incompatible
geometry types (such as building=* on lines and points) and even opens the
door for displaying a concise tip on how to draw the object based on preset
You can also use OSM inspector to find untagged ways:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=tagging&lon=-1.25144&lat=5.12425&zoom=13&opacity=0.63&overlays=ways_without_tags
and it's of course the better option instead of adding load to Overpass API.
Polyglot
2017-10-30 2:47 GMT+01:00 Jo :
> Unt
Untagged ways in a bbox:
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sFU
way({{bbox}})(if:count_tags()==0)->.w1;
rel(bw.w1);way(r)->.w2;
(.w1; - .w2;);
(._; >;);
out meta;
Michael beat me to the answer for the other query. Way too many comes near
as an answer.
Jo
2017-10-30 2:01 GMT+01:00 john whelan :
> Ma
Pierre Béland schrieb:
> Bryan Housel wrote:
> > Many of the untagged ways are from JOSM and that warns before
> uploading as well.
> and
> John Whelan wrote:
> > Many of the untagged ways are from JOSM and that warns before
> uploading as well.
>
>
> It is always possible to query Overpass and fin
Bryan Housel wrote:> Many of the untagged ways are from JOSM and that warns
before uploading as well.and
John Whelan wrote:> Many of the untagged ways are from JOSM and that warns
before uploading as well.
It is always possible to query Overpass and find such problems.
But if applications such a
Next to the buttons for point, line and area, add a button to add
rectangular buildings. Let user click 3 times instead of 5 and tag it as
building=yes.
Polyglot
2017-10-30 1:50 GMT+01:00 Bryan Housel :
> Haha I promise I won’t be offended. I welcome the criticism - this is
> part of working on
Many of the untagged ways are from JOSM and that warns before uploading as
well.
Out of curiosity does any one have a count of the number of untagged ways
and area=yes in the database?
Thanks John
On 29 Oct 2017 8:53 pm, "Bryan Housel" wrote:
> Haha I promise I won’t be offended. I welcome th
Haha I promise I won’t be offended. I welcome the criticism - this is part of
working on something that matters to a lot of people.
Anyway, iD already does train the user in the walkthrough how to assign tags,
and iD does warn the user on the save screen if they are uploading untagged
features
Yes, it's amazing that after all these years of reporting it, that BUG in
iD still hasn't been resolved. But don't dare to complain, we might offend
Bryan.
Polyglot
2017-10-29 23:47 GMT+01:00 Mark Wagner :
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:15:18 +0200
> Safwat Halaby wrote:
>
> > - Adding closed ways wi
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:15:18 +0200
Safwat Halaby wrote:
> - Adding closed ways with area=yes instead of building=yes, or with no
> tags at all
A closed way with "area=yes" is a *very* common newbie mistake with iD:
the user traced an area, then forgot to tag it, or didn't realize they
needed to
On Sun, 2017-10-29 at 20:13 +0100, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I SomeoneElse mentioned this in our HOT IRC channel.
>
> I have already asked the project creator to take a look.
>
> But, are you sure they are bad edits? did you use the 2016 imagery
> specified in the mapping pr
On 29/10/2017 21:33, Safwat Halaby wrote:
User "Andrew" added things like "world's biggest refrigerator", "WHEEL
OF FORTUNE", "ANDREWS BIGGEST CAR", "Concrete Thing", etc.
For completeness, http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sFM shows "Andrew's Dream Car".
Reverting edits such as this makes sense to m
On Sun, 2017-10-29 at 20:10 +0100, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote:
> But, are you sure they are bad edits? did you use the 2016 imagery
> specified in the mapping projet?
>
> For example, change set 53330616, the first one i randomly looked at
> from you list looks like bad editing until you use the
On Sun, 2017-10-29 at 22:24 +0100, Blake Girardot wrote:
> Safwat,
>
> You are not helping things by unilaterally reverting things and
> accusing people of vandalism after you asked HOT to look into it.
>
> At this point all I have seen from your first list was some newbie
> edits with some newbi
Safwat,
You are not helping things by unilaterally reverting things and
accusing people of vandalism after you asked HOT to look into it.
At this point all I have seen from your first list was some newbie
edits with some newbie mistakes and some stuff that looked totally
fine when using the corre
Due to a mailing client config error, I'm unsure if I sent my
messages privately or to the list (or at all). At the risk of repeating
myself:
The problems are not related to Imagery at all. They're blatantly
obvious mapping issues like:
- removing things and re-adding them for no apparent reason
2017-10-29 16:13 GMT-03:00 Blake Girardot HOT/OSM :
> Greetings,
>
> I SomeoneElse mentioned this in our HOT IRC channel.
>
> I have already asked the project creator to take a look.
>
> But, are you sure they are bad edits? did you use the 2016 imagery
> specified in the mapping projet?
>
> For ex
Greetings,
I SomeoneElse mentioned this in our HOT IRC channel.
I have already asked the project creator to take a look.
But, are you sure they are bad edits? did you use the 2016 imagery
specified in the mapping projet?
For example, change set 53330616, the first one i randomly looked at
from
On 29/10/2017 17:18, Safwat Halaby wrote:
There's a sudden influx of bad edits by different users related to
Palestine HotOSM tasks.
There's a "I've seen a problem; what should I do?" section on
http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group which explains the
steps to follow. You've
Here's some intentional vandalism (among the other horrible edits).
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/A_N_D_R_E_W
There also seems to be a pattern of people removing and readding
buildings or adding buildings on top of buildings. (Why are they doing
that? Perhaps they have an assignment of a min
There's a sudden influx of bad edits by different users related to
Palestine HotOSM tasks. I don't know why. Perhaps it's a poorly-trained
group?
Incomplete list of relevant hotOSM tasks: 3441, 3447, 3759, 3768
Incomplete List of bad changesets:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53330583
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