Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 03 nov 2016, alle ore 13:24, Aun Johnsen ha > scritto: > > For pedestrian routing, don’t count on restrictions for highway=primary, > highway=trunk, highway=motorway and highway=*_link to be set correctly, if > routing/non-routing is

[OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-03 Thread Aun Johnsen
Rule of thumb when thinking routing: Don’t count on motor vehicle routing on highway=track, highway=road and highway=service, implementation of these tags vary greatly in routing software For pedestrian routing, don’t count on restrictions for highway=primary, highway=trunk, highway=motorway

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread john whelan
So to sum up there are router solutions that are flexible enough to be configured with what is in the map except for walking across a pedestrian polygon so highways=track isn't a problem to them. Cycling across a car park doesn't seem to work either by the way. We have a desperate need for

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-11-02 12:17, Lester Caine wrote: On 02/11/16 11:04, Milo van der Linden wrote: As a devops I understand your pain ;-) but for OSRM, I found that using docker and staying on a fixed docker version for OSRM makes the pain a lot easier. You say you are using GPS in the car, do you also

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Another issue with routing software might be the kind of OSM object on which a highway tag is put. Highway=pedestrian areas (and other highway areas, but pedestrian are the most common) could be tagged on multipolygons, but last time I checked this there were no routers evaluating them (not even

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Lester Caine
On 02/11/16 11:04, Milo van der Linden wrote: > As a devops I understand your pain ;-) but for OSRM, I found that using > docker and staying on a fixed docker version for OSRM makes the pain a > lot easier. You say you are using GPS in the car, do you also have a > OSRM server running in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Milo van der Linden
Hello Lester, As a devops I understand your pain ;-) but for OSRM, I found that using docker and staying on a fixed docker version for OSRM makes the pain a lot easier. You say you are using GPS in the car, do you also have a OSRM server running in the car? And is this server docker-ready?

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Lester Caine
On 02/11/16 10:07, Milo van der Linden wrote: > In OSRM routing profiles are scripted in lua files. I suggest you take a > look at them and see if they fit your needs. The current requirement is for something that actually works when I switch on GPS in the car. It's bad enough that the user

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Milo van der Linden
In OSRM routing profiles are scripted in lua files. I suggest you take a look at them and see if they fit your needs. https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/tree/master/profiles 2016-11-02 10:55 GMT+01:00 Lester Caine : > On 02/11/16 08:41, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Lester Caine
On 02/11/16 08:41, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine > wrote: > > On 02/11/16 00:57, john whelan wrote: > > If OSMand etc treat them differently then we may not be showing the > > shortest route. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Warin
On 02-Nov-16 08:16 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Michał Brzozowski wrote: The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular routers. There is very little magical sauce, if any. I wouldn't say that. Obviously the demo instances for OSRM and GraphHopper use their own vanilla profiles,

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Michał Brzozowski wrote: > The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular > routers. There is very little magical sauce, if any. I wouldn't say that. Obviously the demo instances for OSRM and GraphHopper use their own vanilla profiles, but other routers very often have customised

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 02/11/16 00:57, john whelan wrote: > > If OSMand etc treat them differently then we may not be showing the > > shortest route. > > OSMAnd currently does not use the best routes in any rural area! While > the roads even

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-02 Thread Lester Caine
On 02/11/16 00:57, john whelan wrote: > If OSMand etc treat them differently then we may not be showing the > shortest route. OSMAnd currently does not use the best routes in any rural area! While the roads even in the UK may be 'unclassified', in many rural areas they are the main routes and I

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-01 Thread Yves
Highway = track is supposed to be wide enough for motor vehicles, so it's just that routers may miss a 4x4 setting? Yves Le 2 novembre 2016 00:57:08 GMT+01:00, "Michał Brzozowski" a écrit : >The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular routers. >There

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-01 Thread john whelan
> Mappers need to tag the truth, how it renders should not be a consideration for mappers. That would be 'ideal', realism strikes and there is a need for rendering the truth is a way that rewards that truth. But we are talking armchair mappers in Africa for the most part often ones who have never

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-01 Thread Warin
On 02-Nov-16 09:40 AM, john whelan wrote: Obviously if I select bicycle it won't use motorway or footway but in general which highway types are used? Some motorways and footways are used by bicycles ... access can be signified by the tag bicycle=yes. Highway=road is avoided by some as it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-01 Thread Warin
On 02-Nov-16 10:57 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular routers. There is very little magical sauce, if any. You can try many routers from osm.org main page. OSRM, for instance, avoids track at all times, unless access=destination (or more

Re: [OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-01 Thread Michał Brzozowski
The rules for routing appear to be mostly global for popular routers. There is very little magical sauce, if any. You can try many routers from osm.org main page. OSRM, for instance, avoids track at all times, unless access=destination (or more particular class like motor_vehicle) is used. The

[OSM-talk] Which type of highways are used by routing software?

2016-11-01 Thread john whelan
Obviously if I select bicycle it won't use motorway or footway but in general which highway types are used? Highway=road is avoided by some as it is the original temporary highway type for a GPS track when you don't know if its a motorway or highway=footway with steps but what about