Re: [OSM-talk-fr] La question des produits locaux (alimentation mais sans doute de manière plus large également)

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Marc_marc
Bonjour, > un commerce proposant majoritairement du local > peut également proposer du non local pour étoffer son offre de produits. je me suis aussi posé cette question quand un magasin local a décidé d'ajouter des bananes pour diversifier son échoppe :( je ne n'ai finalement mis aucune

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ? inclusif ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Marc_marc
Bonjour, Le 10.12.20 à 12:35, Christian Quest a écrit : > J'espère ne pas ouvrir une boite de pandore avec ce message... > mais bon, je prends le risque. pour avoir suivit le début de la discussion d'origine sur osm-talk, j'ai l'impression qu'une phrase totalement déplacé, sert de parfait écran

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Jozef Riha
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:25 PM Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Dne 10. 12. 20 v 16:50 Jozef Riha napsal(a): > > wtfpl ked uz to musi byt.. > > Předpokládám verze 2 :) > kludne. ja som ani nevedel, ze je viac verzii :-) > > Udělal jsem > https://github.com

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Heather Leson
Thank you to the board for listening to our appeal. I look forward to collaborating on the next steps. Heather On Fri, 11 Dec 2020, 04:57 Allan Mustard, wrote: > To the OSM and OSMF communities: > > I convey the following information on behalf of the Board of Directors of > the OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Emily Eros
I wholeheartedly support an enforceable Code of Conduct for the mailing lists and other global OSM spaces. I'm not going to write 3,000 words on this. Others have already made these points. But for the sake of adding one more female voice to this thread, plain and simple: - Violent language is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Brexit & EU database rights

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Edward Bainton
*sigh No, it's not remotely clear! Thank you. On Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 23:02 Simon Poole, wrote: > Legal talk is not the LWG list if that isn't clear, that is > le...@osmfoundation.org > > Simon > Am 10.12.2020 um 22:11 schrieb Edward Bainton: > > A pleasure meeting you all at LWG this evening.

Re: [Talk-it] Laguna di Venezia verso Chioggia davanti Codevigo lungo la Romea

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Volker Schmidt
E' un vecchio problema nella Laguna che alcuni pezzi della coast line non sono corrette. L'avevo segnalato anni in dietro. Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Brexit & EU database rights

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Simon Poole
To answer the questions caveat there is no relevant court decisions that I know of, so this is all likely untested: insubstantial changes to a database do not create a new one, but substantial changes do. Where the line is drawn, or better where the OSMF draws the line, is currently open. See

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Brexit & EU database rights

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Simon Poole
Legal talk is not the LWG list if that isn't clear, that is le...@osmfoundation.org Simon Am 10.12.2020 um 22:11 schrieb Edward Bainton: A pleasure meeting you all at LWG this evening. I saw Brexit in the minutes for September "At the end of year we won't be losing database rights

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Leroy Olivier
> > > en géomatique nous avons presque autant de femmes que d'hommes et ils > comme elles sont intéressés par OSM. > > Tu as des stats en terme de participation à OSM et aux listes ou c'est > au doigt mouillé ? > La coutume est d'organiser au moins un mapathon par année de promo (ce n'est pas moi

Re: [Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Peppe via Talk-it
Concordo con Davide pure io ho trovato qualche modifica futuristica di xDeamon diciamo discutibile o quantomeno da riportare a tutti prima di farla. Se sono state cancellate strade esistenti cmq vanno ripristinate giovedì, 10 dicembre 2020, 11:40PM +01:00 da Davide Sandona

Re: [Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Davide Sandona'
E' una questione complessa. Negli ultimi mesi l'utente xDeamon si è occupato di inserire su OSM diversi percorsi stradali attualmente in fase di progettazione, quali l'A31 Nord, segnalandoli con gli opportuni tag "construction". Una decina di giorni fa ho provato a contattarlo via messaggio

Re: [Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Peppe via Talk-it
Ho visto le note posizionate lungo quanto ha cancellato... praticamente contesta chi aveva inserito in costruzione la Valdastico nord però così facendo ha cancellato parte dello svincolo di Piovene che c'è già. Sulla questione del proseguo a nord dipende se c'è progetto approvato e inizio dei

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 19:27:03 +0100 Florian Kratochwil wrote: >> viele dieser Einfahrten sind mit service=alley getaggt. Sollte >> eigentlich service=driveway sein, wie es bei einigen anderen eh schon >> ist, oder? > > Nein, diese Wege sind nicht alle gleich. Ich denke, dass das schon so >

Re: [Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Peppe via Talk-it
Penso sia da fare un revert... Per il tracciato non so se ci sia quello definitivo, ma dalla risposta penso sia qualcuno che voglia solo protestare... giovedì, 10 dicembre 2020, 11:22PM +01:00 da Matteo Zaffonato zaff...@gmail.com : >Ciao a tutti, >nei giorni scorsi ho notato alcune

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 16:09:13 +0100 Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > On 10.12.20 15:09, Stefan Tauner wrote: > > Welchen Nachteil siehst du, wenn wir solche Fälle mit permissive taggen? > Für den Anwender eher keine Nachteile. Aber man öffnet damit Pandoras > Büchse. Wenn hier ein Weg, auf dem kein

[Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Matteo Zaffonato
Ciao a tutti, nei giorni scorsi ho notato alcune cancellazioni massive del tratto autostradale riportato nell'oggetto. I changeset coinvolti sono: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95382919 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95382753 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95382323

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden osm . sanspourriel
Le 10/12/2020 à 19:20, Leroy Olivier - leroy@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Sur le point "personnes ne s'exprimant pas sur les listes" : en géomatique nous avons presque autant de femmes que d'hommes et ils comme elles sont intéressés par OSM. Ce ne sont probablement pas les seules

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Hain
The big problem I have with this manifesto is that it brings divisive North American attitudes to a worldwide project. As a worldwide project, building a community of mappers from the whole world is our most important single diversity objective. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t encourage other

Re: [Talk-GB] FWD: Re: House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Dec 10, 2020, 21:51 by sk53@gmail.com: > However, I would regard > the Dutch > > & Polish > communities approach of adding individual > nodes for each address in the building irrespective of the actual address > position outline

[Talk-it] Laguna di Venezia verso Chioggia davanti Codevigo lungo la Romea

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Peppe via Talk-it
Osservando la mappa della zona ho osservato una possibile problematica in laguna con la zona ricoperta interamente d'acqua e alcune strade sembrano sommerse. Non essendomi mai occupato di landuse marini segnalo la cosa nel caso qualcuno di più esperto possa controllare.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Fwd: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Dec 10, 2020, 22:46 by matkoni...@tutanota.com: > (3) > If girls are from young age discouraged from being interested in > maps/geography/volunteering/etc then it is going to help > in lower participation in projects for people interested in maps. > "If girls are from young age discouraged from

[Talk-it] Laguna di Venezia verso Chioggia zona davanti Codevigo

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Peppe via Talk-it
Osservando la mappa della zona ho osservato una possibile problematica in laguna con la zona ricoperta interamente d'acqua e alcune strade sembrano sommerse. Non essendomi mai occupato di landuse marini segnalo la cosa nel caso qualcuno di più esperto possa controllare.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Fwd: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Dec 10, 2020, 20:58 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > Underrepresentation of women and gender minorities, racial > underrepresentation, geographic underrepresentation, these are all > symptoms. If OSM did not systematically exclude these groups, these > groups would not be underrepresented. > It is

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Miroslav Suchy
Dne 10. 12. 20 v 16:50 Jozef Riha napsal(a): > wtfpl ked uz to musi byt.. Předpokládám verze 2 :) Udělal jsem https://github.com/osmcz/greeter-osm Trošku jsem pročistil kód. Umožnil jsem nezadávat username a heslo v configu - program se na to zeptá. Země se teď může specifikovat v configu.

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Edward Catmur via Talk-GB
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:52 PM Martin Wynne wrote: > > Are there any public cycleways from which pedestrians are actually banned? > > I don’t know the legal basis, but according to OSM there are plenty of cycleways or roads from which pedestrians are banned in London:

Re: [Talk-GB] FWD: Re: House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden SK53
addr:interpolation used on single buildings has certainly been our standard practice in the East Midlands for 9 or 10 years now. It's now often used in conjunction with addr:flats or addr:unit, but also with addr:housenumber, which I think was the first usage. It was obvious early on that multiple

[OSM-legal-talk] Brexit & EU database rights

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Edward Bainton
A pleasure meeting you all at LWG this evening. I saw Brexit in the minutes for September "At the end of year we won't be losing database rights immediately." General guidance I've seen appears to say: - database rights accrued before 2021-01-01 persist (as I've seen discussed in minutes) -

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Midgard
This whole thread caused me great distress on account of some messages I saw that came across as polarizing. The reason I would be discouraged from joining OSM discussion right now would be hostility and passive aggressive bickering. And this is among people who I suppose all mean the best for

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mark Goodge
On 10/12/2020 14:08, Tony Shield wrote: /Are there any public cycleways from which pedestrians are actually banned? / Unfortunately yes - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/827379295 Quite clear signage - Mapillary -

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Friedrich Volkmann
On 10.12.20 19:27, Florian Kratochwil wrote: Was ist überhaupt der default-access-Wert für barrier=gate? Habe das auf die schnelle nicht gefunden. Erst mal muss man sich fragen, was access-Tags auf barriers überhaupt bedeuten sollen. Wer das Türl öffnen und schließen darf, oder wer durchgehen

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Jozef Riha
wtfpl ked uz to musi byt.. Dňa št 10. 12. 2020, 16:14 Martin Ždila napísal(a): > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 4:13 PM Miroslav Suchy wrote: > >> Dne 08. 12. 20 v 23:19 Martin Ždila napsal(a): >> > Ahojte, >> > >> > Na SotM sme sa bavili o "greeting" sktipte, tak preposielam čo >> používame. >> >>

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How do I join the meeting tonight?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
Edward, please use this BBB link: https://osmvideo.cloud68.co/user/gui-ztm-dqh On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:23 AM Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk wrote: > > > > > Dec 10, 2020, 18:32 by bainton@gmail.com: > > though can't see how to set up Push to Talk > > big blue cog => audio input tab

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Fwd: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Kathleen Lu via talk
First, let me say that I do know Frederik personally, I have had pleasant dinners with him and hope to do so again post-pandemic. He has apologised for his poor choice of words, and I accept his apology. The volume of attacks and hostile tone against Celine in reaction to the document she shared

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Dave F via Talk-GB
That's weird. Save for some tactile paving what's the difference between North & South? DaveF On 10/12/2020 14:08, Tony Shield wrote: /Are there any public cycleways from which pedestrians are actually banned? / Unfortunately yes - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/827379295 Quite clear

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mark Goodge
On 10/12/2020 16:28, Ken Kilfedder wrote: > I think there are enough items that look and act like a cycles-only way to make it worth having a fourth item in your hierarchy- whatever the legal position. But route-finding software needs to know the legal position. Mapping something as

[talk-latam] Integrarse

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Seralia Martinez
Hola buenas tardes Maritza, siguiendo el curso de los correos anteriores acerca del capítulo youthmappers Panamá, la principal preocupación como parte de una comunidad es el trabajo que ustedes como un grupo organizado de jóvenes estudiantes de la Universidad de Panamá están llevando en los

Re: [Talk-at] Gefahr durch Internet-Bergrouten

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Robert Grübler
Am 09.12.2020 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann: > Wie ich schon tausendmal geschrieben habe, gibt es zwischen > Wandern und Klettern keine klare Trennlinie. : > Natürlich ist dritter Grad kein Wanderweg, aber die Grenze > fix zwischen 2 und 3 anzusetzen finde ich zu unelastisch : > Demnach dürften wir

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How do I join the meeting tonight?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk
Dec 10, 2020, 18:32 by bainton@gmail.com: > though can't see how to set up Push to Talk > big blue cog => audio input tab (selected by default) -> Transmission panel Change dropdown from "voice activity" to "Push to talk" Seems that it should work > The > wiki

Re: [Talk-GB] FWD: Re: House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Dan S
That JOSM rendering is just a limitation in JOSM's rendering - I'd imagine it was unplanned. I'd be happy to see that second solution (i.e. make clear the interpretation of the tag, for closed ways). I don't necessarily think it needs a proposal/vote but I'd be happy to see it happen! Best Dan

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Yves via talk
Niels, Arnalielsewhere post wasn't about mapping, the map is used to illustrate something. I agree with others comments pledging for more time to be taken to read someone else's lines. Yves___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB
Just to add by the way, in a country like netherlands "cycleways" are paved paths dedicated to cycles. You can't walk on there because there are also sidewalks to walk on. E.g.: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pAL4yr927e4/maxresdefault.jpg -- 10 Dec 2020, 14:08 by tonyo...@gmail.com: > > Are there

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB
Didn't know this tagging scheme existed actually. Every single path that allows both cycling and walking is tagged as "highway=cycleway", "foot=yes" and "segregated=no" in my area (as well as "footway=sidewalk" sometimes) -- 10 Dec 2020, 12:24 by epicthom...@gmail.com: > I've reached a

[Talk-GB] FWD: Re: House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB
Date: 10 Dec 2020, 18:34 From: ipswichmap...@tutanota.com To: mattatt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] House number ranges that are only odd or even > This issue also came to my mind. addr:interpolation on a building doesn't > seem appropriate. JOSM, for example, renders it as a dotted line

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Florian Kratochwil
Am 10.12.20 um 13:35 schrieb Stefan Tauner: Inwiefern findest du, dass das permissive nicht korrekt ist? Ich denke nicht, dass es dafür ein besseres Tagging gibt bzw. anders gesagt, ich würde behaupten, dass das in Österreich genau das Richtige ist. Ich glaube eh, dass permissive das richtige

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Leroy Olivier
Bonjour à tous, Sur le point "personnes ne s'exprimant pas sur les listes" : en géomatique nous avons presque autant de femmes que d'hommes et ils comme elles sont intéressés par OSM. Ce ne sont probablement pas les seules mais je veux juste en déduire qu'il y a bien des contributrices ou

Re: [Talk-at] PLZ und Ortsvorwahlen von Österreich

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Johann Haag
Am Do., 10. Dez. 2020 um 13:53 Uhr schrieb Philipp Kolmann via Talk-at < talk-at@openstreetmap.org>: > > > Am 10.12.2020 um 06:35 schrieb Johann Haag: > > danke für die aufmunternden Worte. Hab erst mal die ersten Mails >> verdauen müssen. >> > Hallo Phillip, entschuldige wenn meine

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden deuzeffe
Le 10/12/2020 à 14:15, Jean-Marc Liotier a écrit : On 12/10/20 2:07 PM, Baptiste Lemoine - Cipher Bliss wrote: J'ai hâte qu'une femme donne son avis sur la mysoginie dans la communauté OSM. Aucune ne le fera - et pour cause: une femme qui s'en plaint sera étiquetée emmerdeuse féministe. Ça

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden deuzeffe
Le 10/12/2020 à 12:35, Christian Quest a écrit : J'espère ne pas ouvrir une boite de pandore avec ce message... mais bon, je prends le risque. Suis-je aveugle et sourd ? Voilà Christian, la boîte est ouverte. J'espère que tes yeux voient un peu mieux et tes oreilles entendent davantage.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden deuzeffe
Le 10/12/2020 à 19:00, Éric Gillet a écrit : Donc, tu demandes aux personnes qui sont discriminées/mises de côté/ostracisées de ce *cacher* derrière un pseudo pour ne plus qu'elles soient discriminées (et après l'avoir affirmé, qu'elles le sont). Tu le vois le biais culturel, là ? Tu rends ces

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Éric Gillet
Le 10/12/2020 à 18:40, deuzeffe a écrit : Le 10/12/2020 à 18:10, Éric Gillet a écrit : Merci Eric de montrer un exemple de la discrimination culturelle. -- deuzeffe, don't feed the troll, oui, je sais. Ah j'oubliais, merci pour l'insulte ! Rien de mieux pour créer un esprit d'écoute et de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Éric Gillet
Le 10/12/2020 à 18:40, deuzeffe a écrit : Le 10/12/2020 à 18:10, Éric Gillet a écrit : Merci Eric de montrer un exemple de la discrimination culturelle. J'espère que si des personnes sont discriminées ou ont le sentiment de l'être elle se manifesteront, quitte à ce qu'elles utilisent un

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How do I join the meeting tonight?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
Hi Edward, OSMF and its working groups have traditionally used the HOT server. Mumble is not a Web application. However, we are looking at moving to BBB. A BBB link for this meeting has not been circulated yet, so please use Mumble for the time being. Best, Kathleen On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 9:36

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden deuzeffe
Le 10/12/2020 à 18:10, Éric Gillet a écrit : Merci Eric de montrer un exemple de la discrimination culturelle. J'espère que si des personnes sont discriminées ou ont le sentiment de l'être elle se manifesteront, quitte à ce qu'elles utilisent un alias. Donc, tu demandes aux personnes qui

Re: [Talk-GB] Idea - OSMUK walkers' map application -- -& server

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Tony Shield
Hi I like the idea. Can it be extended to be a UK based map which is has greater prominence to aspects such as the recent discussion about cyclists and paths? Does anyone have an idea of how it could be made to happen - could we (OSM UK) fund and maintain it with commitment for say 2

[OSM-legal-talk] How do I join the meeting tonight?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Edward Bainton
Hi all I was hoping to audit the meeting tonight, with a view to possibly volunteering. I now have Mumble installed (though can't see how to set up Push to Talk) *How do I find the group call and join it?* Is there some kind of web address or something to be input somewhere? The wiki

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden deuzeffe
Le 10/12/2020 à 14:15, Jean-Marc Liotier a écrit : On 12/10/20 2:07 PM, Baptiste Lemoine - Cipher Bliss wrote: J'ai hâte qu'une femme donne son avis sur la mysoginie dans la communauté OSM. J'arrive, j'arrive ! (même si mon pseudo n'est pas forcément facile à décoder de prime abord) Aucune

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Niels Elgaard Larsen
arnalie faye vicario: Hello/kumusta, What an overwhelming response! This is my first time to email thru the global osm talk; it really takes true grit to join the conversations, huge thanks to the people who inspired me and sparked the flame. I will keep it short and redirect you to a

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Celine Jacquin
Hello everyone Thank you for your answers. And thanks for the supportive messages. I will give a general response, trying to cover all the points that I can extend, and trying to be clear despite my limited time and fluency in English. Above all, I would like you to become aware of the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Éric Gillet
Le 10/12/2020 à 12:35, Christian Quest a écrit : J'espère ne pas ouvrir une boite de pandore avec ce message... mais bon, je prends le risque. Depuis hier, il y a des échanges assez rudes sur la misogynie qui régnerait dans la communauté OSM ("systemic behavior"). Ce n'est pas la première

Re: [Talk-GB] House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Dan S
I use addr:interpolation on single items as in Mat's example, just as much as on an explicit "interpolation way". It seems to me the concept is perfectly adaptable. For example, an address-search-engine should have no trouble digesting these two almost-the-same uses of addr:interpolation. Cheers

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Martin Wynne
On 10/12/2020 14:13, John Aldridge wrote: There'd be a whole lot less temptation to tag for the renderer, if the renderers rendered for the tags a bit better! Agreed, and while we are on the subject, please can we have *tracks* rendered on the standard map as a double line? As they are on

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Dave F via Talk-GB
I believe you're incorrect. Cycleways can be shared use with pedestrians, & almost always are in the UK. Cycleway/footway/path tags are not based on usage figures. Cycleway allows for two modes of transport, footway allows one.  Likewise 'bridleway' allows for three modes -

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar panels on Alvares House in Homerton

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mat Attlee
I have conducted some more surveys of the area and neither from street level or looking from a neighbouring building am I able to see a play area so it's possible it's a rooftop play area and not accessible by non residents of the building. On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 15:44, Jez Nicholson wrote: > As

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Ken Kilfedder
> ...this distinction doesn't really exist in the UK. The default legal > position for for any public highway in the UK is that any permission for > any class of user also includes permission for any class of user prior > to that in the hierarchy, unless explicitly stated (and signed) >

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mark Goodge
On 10/12/2020 15:39, Phillip Barnett wrote: “ any road that cars can use is also open to cyclists and pedestrians ” Pedestrians? Are you sure about that? Yes, you can walk along country roads that lack pavements, but try that in a town and I’m pretty sure you’d get stopped quite quickly.

Re: [Talk-dk] 2 minus 1 vej

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Lars Gravengaard
OK alm.vej er det asfalt brede eller brede mellem fuldt optukne linier? For så skal vi vel også til at måle bredden på grus rabatten? For der kan man jo også køre ud. Mvh Lars Bloch Gravengaard tor. d. 10. dec. 2020 16.46 skrev Mikko Lukas Räsaänen via Talk-dk < talk-dk@openstreetmap.org>: >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Jean-Marc Liotier
On 12/10/20 2:55 PM, Baptiste Lemoine - Cipher Bliss wrote: Aucune ne le fera - et pour cause: une femme qui s'en plaint sera étiquetée emmerdeuse féministe. Ça fait partie du problème. sauf si personne n'est là pour dire que le féminisme emmerde la communauté OSM, voire - syons fous - que

Re: [Talk-GB] House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Ken Kilfedder
Isn't addr:interpolation only for ranges of housenumbers on an interpolation way? In this case the question seems to be about a residential building containing only even numbered units? If you just say addr:housenumber=2-20, it could mean that 19 is included. If you say

[OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Fabian Hernandez via talk
For a community to be resilient, resilient individuals are required. Those who are offended by everything only contribute to lessening the resistance of the community. Those who group by collectives only crush the first minority, the individual. Meritocracy should be the form of government,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Sébastien Dinot
Baptiste Lemoine - Cipher Bliss a écrit : > On peut s’inspirer de ce que font le collectif Women Who Code aussi. > Pourquoi pas faire des mapathons réservés aux femmes, ou pas forcément > réservés mais indiquant que c’est le public cible? Créer une événement réservé à une minorité, j’ai connu

Re: [Talk-GB] House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Jeremy Harris
On 10/12/2020 15:37, Mat Attlee wrote: Is there a way when specifying a range for addr:housenumber to indicate it's only for even or odd numbers? https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr:interpolation#values -- Cheers, Jeremy ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-dk] 2 minus 1 vej

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mikko Lukas Räsaänen via Talk-dk
En korrekt måde at angive bredden på vejbanen er lanes:width=* On 2020-12-10 09:33, Lars Gravengaard wrote: Hvad med at angive vejbreden til mål mellem de stiplede streger? Så kan ruteberegningen måske vælge en anden rute / se at ruten tager længere tid. Mvh Lars Bloch Gravengaard tor. d.

Re: [talk-latam] Fwd: Respuesta a [Ticket#2020120710000024]

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Maritza Rodríguez
Señor Mario Frasca nosotras somos estudiantes de la Universidad de Panamá, estuvimos presentes y participamos en la reunión del 17 de septiembre de 2020. Atentamente: Maritza Rodríguez (maritza20r) y Karen Martínez (Karen Martínez) Jóvenes Mapeadoeres Universidad de Panamá. El mar, 8 dic 2020

Re: [Talk-dk] 2 minus 1 vej

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mikko Lukas Räsaänen via Talk-dk
Hvilket vil være misvisende. Forestil dig et køretøj der skal finde vej alt efter hvor bred vejen FAKTISK er. Da vil den vise at det på ingen måde er muligt at passere på grund af for lidt bredde på vejen, selvom det faktisk er. On 2020-12-10 09:33, Lars Gravengaard wrote: Hvad med at angive

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Ken Kilfedder
Following a little research, there was a proposal in the Carto style to do something like my 5-point suggestion. You can read the details here, and contribute (or give the 'thumbs up' upvotes to contributions you like: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1321 ---

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Phillip Barnett
“ any road that cars can use is also open to cyclists and pedestrians ” Pedestrians? Are you sure about that? Yes, you can walk along country roads that lack pavements, but try that in a town and I’m pretty sure you’d get stopped quite quickly. Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Dec 2020, at 15:21,

[Talk-GB] House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mat Attlee
Is there a way when specifying a range for addr:housenumber to indicate it's only for even or odd numbers? When walking around my local area I have come across some blocks that will have a sign indicating for example house numbers 1 to 21 odd only. Similarly when there is just one building drawn

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Stephen Colebourne
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 12:42, Ken Kilfedder wrote: > highway=cycleway with nothing to say that foot is allowed - blue dashes as at > present. > highway=footway with nothing to say bicyles are allowed - red dashes as at > present. > highway=cycleway with foot expressly allowed - blue/red dashed

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Simon Still
> On 10 Dec 2020, at 14:13, John Aldridge wrote: > > On 12/10/2020 12:41 PM, Ken Kilfedder wrote: >> As a break from 'tagging for the renderer', I'd like to see rendering for >> the tags. > > A long standing grump of mine! And mine. I think the CycleMap render has a lot of issues with

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Tom Ka
Poslal jsem ti na github pozvanku. Bye. tom.k čt 10. 12. 2020 v 16:12 odesílatel Miroslav Suchy napsal: > > Dne 08. 12. 20 v 23:19 Martin Ždila napsal(a): > > Ahojte, > > > > Na SotM sme sa bavili o "greeting" sktipte, tak preposielam čo používame. > > Super. Ještě chybí licence? Pod jakou

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Mark Goodge
On 10/12/2020 12:41, Ken Kilfedder wrote: As a break from 'tagging for the renderer', I'd like to see rendering for the tags.  It would save a lot of heartarche if the map on osm.org showed shared-use paths explicitly. I entirely agree! I think the real problem here is that the standard

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Tom Ka
čt 10. 12. 2020 v 14:46 odesílatel Miroslav Suchy napsal: > > Dne 10. 12. 20 v 13:09 Tom Ka napsal(a): > > Naopak explicitne vyjadrit, ze > > dana oblast ma (nejake) omezeni pristupu by mohlo byt uzitecne, > > relativne jednoduche a udrzitelne a i pro renderer nebo jine > > zpracovani dostatecne

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Martin Ždila
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 4:13 PM Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Dne 08. 12. 20 v 23:19 Martin Ždila napsal(a): > > Ahojte, > > > > Na SotM sme sa bavili o "greeting" sktipte, tak preposielam čo používame. > > Super. Ještě chybí licence? Pod jakou licencí to můžeme používat? > Jose? > Pokud mi někdo

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Friedrich Volkmann
On 10.12.20 15:09, Stefan Tauner wrote: Welchen Nachteil siehst du, wenn wir solche Fälle mit permissive taggen? Für den Anwender eher keine Nachteile. Aber man öffnet damit Pandoras Büchse. Wenn hier ein Weg, auf dem kein Verbot angeschrieben ist, als permissive getaggt werden soll, weil er

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Miroslav Suchy
Dne 08. 12. 20 v 23:19 Martin Ždila napsal(a): > Ahojte, > > Na SotM sme sa bavili o "greeting" sktipte, tak preposielam čo používame. Super. Ještě chybí licence? Pod jakou licencí to můžeme používat? Pokud mi někdo dáte práva k https://github.com/osmcz tak bych tam založil projekt a upravil

[OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community (Celine Jacquin)

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Fabian Hernandez via talk
That document is despicable, promoting discrimination of some groups pretending to help others. Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:06:45 -0600 From: Celine Jacquin To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org, talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic

Re: [OSRM-talk] OSRM Table Service

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Sasha Khapyorsky
Hello, On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:43 PM Ata Abdollahi wrote: > Hello > I want to use the table service. It gives an error when I use annotations. > I use the Windows version of OSRM > please guide me > https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/master/docs/http.md >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Jacques Lavignotte
Le 10/12/2020 à 14:15, Jean-Marc Liotier a écrit : On 12/10/20 2:07 PM, Baptiste Lemoine - Cipher Bliss wrote: J'ai hâte qu'une femme donne son avis sur la mysoginie dans la communauté OSM. Aucune ne le fera - et pour cause: une femme qui s'en plaint sera étiquetée emmerdeuse féministe. Ça

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden John Aldridge
On 12/10/2020 12:41 PM, Ken Kilfedder wrote: As a break from 'tagging for the renderer', I'd like to see rendering for the tags. A long standing grump of mine! We see lots of excellent effort put in to designing tagging schemes which could support a wide variety of applications, but rather

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Miroslav Suchy
Dne 10. 12. 20 v 9:23 Antonin Tuma via talk-cz napsal(a): > Dobrý den, > budete-li vstřícní k požadavkům ochrany přírody, pak vám nabízíme z území > naší působnosti různé opravy chyb, které jsme > zjistili, a aktualizace vaší mapy (máte zastaralé údaje třeba k hranicícm > zvláště chráněných

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 14:44:44 +0100 Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > In OSM mappen wir keine Gesetze, sondern was wir vor Ort vorfinden. > > Ohne Insiderwissen wissen wir nicht, wo der Privatgrund anfängt Das Insiderwissen, das der Zaun und das Türl dort nicht in öffentlichem Besitz ist. "OK".

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Tony Shield
/Are there any public cycleways from which pedestrians are actually banned? / Unfortunately yes - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/827379295 Quite clear signage - Mapillary - https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.66933432657343=-2.6290113968031967=17=_ir_HmYAIa4H0rnj1JrO8A=photo // When I

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Baptiste Lemoine - Cipher Bliss
> Aucune ne le fera - et pour cause: une femme qui s'en plaint sera étiquetée > emmerdeuse féministe. Ça fait partie du problème. sauf si personne n'est là pour dire que le féminisme emmerde la communauté OSM, voire - syons fous - que c'est un combat qui est soutenu officiellement et que nous

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mapbox-GL JS version 2: vers la fin de l'Opensource sur les tuiles vectorielles

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Frédéric Rodrigo
Les choses avancent vite. De multiples forks ont été lancés, mais un consensus de regroupement a été obtenue autour du fork MapLibre. Déclaration commune : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UB8VJ6_vMD9Zxfem7cunwa_G-hXo_ZRY1IeF5iGlh4w/view Une préversion renommée est déjà dispo.

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Friedrich Volkmann
On 10.12.20 13:49, Stefan Tauner wrote: Berechtigungen nur dann taggen, wenn welche angeschrieben sind. Ist hier nicht der Fall => foot=permissive bitte weglassen. Wieso? Es ist ja offensichtlich so, dass das Privatgrund ist, aber momentan keine rechtliche Einschränkung für Fußgänger besteht,

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden arnalie faye vicario
Hello/kumusta, What an overwhelming response! This is my first time to email thru the global osm talk; it really takes true grit to join the conversations, huge thanks to the people who inspired me and sparked the flame. I will keep it short and redirect you to a (short) OSM Diary I wrote on

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Jiri Vlasak
My bad. This was meant to HOT mailing list [1]. Sorry. [1]: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2020-December/015409.html jiri ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Jiri Vlasak
For the ones who are interested in the whole discussion: - talk mailing list archive: - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085736.html - osmf-talk mailing list archive: - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-December/007541.html -

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Miroslav Suchy
Dne 10. 12. 20 v 13:09 Tom Ka napsal(a): > Naopak explicitne vyjadrit, ze > dana oblast ma (nejake) omezeni pristupu by mohlo byt uzitecne, > relativne jednoduche a udrzitelne a i pro renderer nebo jine > zpracovani dostatecne srozumitelne. Jenže tohle musíš řešit v renderu. A jak to zajistíš ve

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