[talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Ross Scanlon
Hi All, I've been looking at tagwatch again and find that there are lots of bridges and tunnels without layer tags. These are not assumed and need to be added. Before we all rush out and start amending the tags I've writen a script to add layer tags to these automatically. It is working on

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Hi All, I've been looking at tagwatch again and find that there are lots of bridges and tunnels without layer tags. These are not assumed and need to be added. Before we all rush out and start amending the tags I've

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 11:05, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: These are not assumed and need to be added. Most bridges and tunnels could be assumed when there is water involved, I'm pretty sure someone, might have been Steve, brought this up on the tagging list a few months ago. At this point

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Ross Scanlon
Don't do it. Automated changes almost always go wrong. And they almost always upset a mapper who really meant for it to be that way. As I said in my email it works correctly on a test server from a technical point of view and yes I agree about upsetting mappers that's why I'm asking the

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Ross Scanlon
If you believe that you are accurately detecting a mapping problem, consider creating an alarm system, like OSM Inspector, keepright or the dupenodes map. Bring the potential problems to the attention of local mappers who can then apply the changes if they are required. This is already

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: If you can run a script over data it could also be pre-processed in a similar manner without needing explicit tags on the objects. I had thought that the consensus was that layer tags *are* assumed, at least in cases

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 13:31, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I had thought that the consensus was that layer tags *are* assumed, at least in cases like highway/bridge crossing river. While that may have been decided on a mailing list, I'm not sure if anyone updated the wiki to reflect it, or

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: If you can run a script over data it could also be pre-processed in a similar manner without needing explicit tags on the objects. I had thought that the consensus was that layer tags *are* assumed, at least in

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Each bridge that currently does not have a layer tag would have layer=1 added. That will be incorrect if a bridge crosses a body of water (or other object) that has a layer tag other than zero. Which means some renderers may

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Anyone see any issues with running this completely and on a regular basis eg weekly cron job. Also, one problem with doing that is it muddies the issue: if a bot is automatically adding layer tags, does that mean that

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 14:32, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Incidentally: how do current renderers (principally mapnik and osmarender) currently behave? Are any of these assumed defaults actually implemented, or have I got my wires crossed? Mapnik usually renders roads on top of other

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Each bridge that currently does not have a layer tag would have layer=1 added. That will be incorrect if a bridge crosses a body of water (or other object) that has a layer tag other than zero. Which means some

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 14:18, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: The consensus may have been that all bridges and tunnels need to have a layer tag and that's what I'm looking at. I don't think the wiki was updated, then again consensus is limited to the group discussing it at the time.

[talk-au] The nearmap effect

2010-06-06 Thread Steve Bennett
http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?colour=tablestyle=_default_osm_tagsarea=4687:0sort=total-show=key_values:8 I only just discovered ItoWorld, heh. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org