Hi,
Recently I was 4wding with some people and collected some info to add
to OSM. I think that the access tracks to the beach and realted
campsites should be tagged with:
highway=track
surface=sand
maxspeed=NN
tracktype=grade7
4wd_only=yes
access=permit
How should I tag the maxspeed
On 8 January 2013 20:32, Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.au wrote:
Assuming that I am reading OSM instructions correct the beach is suppose to
only extend to the high water mark so the coastline and beach should have a
one to one relationship on the water side. But then I have been wrong
On 24 September 2011 00:10, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.comwrote:
* Queensland national parks, state forests and conservation areas
That dataset was actually done as two imports by two different people.
The first was being done by me, from about 18 month to 15 months ago -
manually
On 11/07/2011, at 8:47 PM, John Smith wrote:
Then why was there such a big fuss made over Haiti edits should be PD
so that the UN could mix the data with other datasets...
Because they were mixing the datasets. If you do something like render tiles
within the .au boundaries from one database,
On 6 July 2011 21:29, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote:
and also people who ticked the CTs who have used CC-BY/CC-BY-SA sources in
the past who may want to keep this data and continue using these sources in
the future.
Indeed. Number 9 on the list is
On 8 July 2011 13:26, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
The vast majority of people are happy with where we are at
From what I've read on ML posts, and from what was reported about the last
SotM meeting (I wasn't there), the vast majority of people don't care and
would be happy with the status
On 06/04/2011, at 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote:
... the License Working Group intends implementing Phase 3 of the
license change implementation plan [1]. This involves blocking edits
with HTTP Forbidden messages until the individual contributor has
Accepted/Declined the new terms by logging in
On 7 April 2011 09:42, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 09:17 +1000, Michael Hampson wrote:
This came through over night.
Is it a standard mailer going out to all?
I received the same, so presumably yes.
More importantly is it a official OSMF or
On 12/01/2011, at 2:48 AM, John Smith wrote:
Martin, for your information there was a bit of work done on this sort
of thing in the past for Aussie parks covered by this, based on data
from http://data.australia.gov.au I think.
I uploaded the dataset I think you're referring to, after
On 15/08/2010, at 1:28 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 14 August 2010 18:19, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
This sounds right to me. But if you propose bridge:ref=* then you
should probably also use bridge:name=* rather than the already
proposed bridge_name=*.
I still think it should be
On 30/07/2010, at 3:54 PM, John Smith wrote:
I've cc'd Grant on this email, he posted to the #osm-au IRC channel
about some proposed changes to the CTs, which I was hoping would have
come up in another thread by now:
LWG is considering:
3. OSMF agrees to use or sub-license Your Contents
On 26/07/2010, at 7:12 PM, John Smith wrote:
How do people tag over taking sections on highways where there is no
physical separation between oncoming traffic?
I've never tagged them before, but there is
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:overtaking for marking where overtaking
is legal.
On 26/07/2010, at 9:05 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 26 July 2010 20:56, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote:
On 26/07/2010, at 7:12 PM, John Smith wrote:
I've never tagged them before, but there is
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:overtaking for marking where
overtaking is legal
On 12/07/2010, at 9:06 PM, Markus wrote:
Also I have noticed in potlatch the coastline seems to render better also
when having the coastline separate as it will draw the coatline even if the
park goes over it.
Yep, sounds like a good plan. I think this can happen a bit because
On 10/07/2010, at 9:18 AM, John Smith wrote:
however due to
the absence of requiring such a free license to be cc-by compatible
(require some form of attribution) this then means any cc-by data
would now have to be expunged from the system.
Only if the copyright holder hasn't agreed to the
On 08/07/2010, at 5:16 PM, Neil Penman wrote:
I have found numerous cases where towns have two police stations marked. One
in the correct spot, added by a mapper, and one in some other arbitrary place
added by a bulk upload. I'm not totally against this, but ultimately its
community
On 08/07/2010, at 7:13 AM, Liz wrote:
I don't think that they are compatible.
My experience of law is small and it is an opinion only.
I thought (and hoped) that the attribution requirements of ODbL would satisfy
the requirements of CC-BY, but I'm not a lawyer.
Certainly we would have to
On 9 July 2010 10:38, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
It'd be better like this:
http://hello.eboy.com/eboy/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/FTN_CommunicationCity_06t.png
So http://opengeodata.org/isometric-osm-maps?c=1 then?
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On 30/06/2010, at 7:48 AM, Roy Wallace wrote:
Is it worth using an additional
classification:qld=national_park|conservation_park|state_forest, etc.
(or similar), just to make things extra clear?
That is, when you use a rule like Conservation Parks get
boundary=protected_area, I think it
On 28/06/2010, at 11:10 PM, Markus wrote:
Sound good to me to leave the GLR number and Ecolink if you put it with a
standard osm key.
Here's what I've currently got, any more comments?
1) National park get boundary=national_park and leisure=nature_reserve. Should
any of the standard,
On 28/06/2010, at 8:16 PM, Markus wrote:
Forests
Landuse=forest
National Parks
boundary=national_park
leisure=nature_reserve
Sounds good.
Protected Areas
boundary=protected_area
protect_id=
Ah, the original data had IUCN codes, so I can put these back in as protect_id
1-6.
I
Hi all,
I've been looking at http://data.australia.gov.au/127, which contains all
the national parks, state forest, conservation areas and so on in
Queensland. If no-one else had been doing anything with this, I'd been
thinking about adding it to OSM.
Current practice seems to be tagging them
On 17/06/2010, at 1:49 PM, Roy Wallace wrote:
Try Australian Standard AS 2156.1-2001 (Walking tracks -
Classification and signage)
http://infostore.saiglobal.com/store2/Details.aspx?ProductID=260163
(not free, but try e.g. the following page for some details:
On 11/06/2010, at 12:13 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 11 June 2010 11:45, Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
My personal preference would have been to use give_way, since it follows
the tradition of using British English as the source of tag names, but the
majority of mappers so far have
On 09/06/2010, at 1:20 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
Err, and just now I notice that when you press b in Potlatch, instead of
creating source=nearmap, it creates a tag like
http://www.nearmap.com/kh/zxy=!,!,!;. Wonder when this change happened, and
is that a bug? It sure looks like it...
Did
On 11/02/2010, at 5:33 AM, Liz wrote:
Haven't got far through the judgement so far but this sounds quite clear.
7.
The Copyright Act does not protect facts, ideas or information contained in a
work, to ensure a balance is struck between the interests of authors and
those
in society: IceTV
On 21/01/2010, at 9:35 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
I would suggest tagging the way leisure=slipway. If you need to
break the current specification to do so, then make a note on the wiki
page. Tagging it highway=service seems wrong. Service roads do not
go underwater...
The tagging system is
On 15/01/2010, at 8:45 PM, Liz wrote:
so perhaps the signs are actually meaningless in law
they appear in council minutes so perhaps its a local council job
From my searching, it looks like councils are responsible for putting up these
signs and I couldn't find any actual legal definition of
On 16/01/2010, at 9:32 AM, John Smith wrote:
This seems like a spurious argument, ok your suggestion will allow
both projects to profit from your data, but any additions can't be
shared back with your suggested project, nor will Google share any of
it's data back, unless it's in Google's own
On 07/01/2010, at 5:25 PM, John Smith wrote:
2010/1/7 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
I usually interpret designated as signed, which is
an attractive interpretation because it's verifiable.
To avoid confusion perhaps it should have been bicycle=signed? :)
Then we would have confusion
On 04/01/2010, at 9:57 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
. Ok, there are a few issues. First, natural= just describes what's on the
land, like trees or not, so isn't useful. The right tag would be something
like landuse=reserve, although this appears to be still under debate:
On 04/01/2010, at 5:19 PM, Mark Pulley wrote:
The question is, should we move highway= onto the relation for all
relations? There's probably a fix for Mapnik to save editing every
relation we've done, so I've added a ticket to OSM.
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2599
I wouldn't
On 14/12/2009, at 6:41 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
I think my central argument is this: Your sports_club venue could be
- a sports facility with no eating/drinking/gambling facilities for the public
- an eating/drinking/gambling venue for the public with no sports facilities
- or both.
This
On 14/12/2009, at 6:58 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
The reason I thought they may be a QLD thing is the state Government
here licences them a bit differently from your average pub (or used
to, I haven't checked lately). Thus the (official) members only
rules, connection to a sport club, etc.
On 14/12/2009, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
I'm sure that there was a tag for the first, although I can't find it now.
Something like leisure=club_rooms or similar, which related to a sporting
group but wasn't
On 11/12/2009, at 8:02 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
so we don't need imported data?
In most cases we don't need imported data, but it can be useful. For example
rather than painstakingly crafting the entire coastline of Australia from a few
GPS traces and a lot of imagery (much is relatively
On 10/12/2009, at 6:57 PM, Liz wrote:
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
... the excellent Philippines mapping team who managed to create one
single closed way enclosing an area of roughly 300 thousand square
kilometres!
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=32126765
The runner-up is
On Wednesday, December 09, 2009, at 03:25PM, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com
wrote:
BP allows free download of GPS data for their Australian service stations.
Has anyone asked any of the other companies yet? If not, I'll send some emails
about:
On 09/12/2009, at 6:38 PM, Roy Wallace wrote:
If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include
that information in a work, you will own that work, and may distribute
it to others under a Creative Commons licence.
Does that not imply that the derived information may only be
On 09/12/2009, at 8:26 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
Can we really maintain this? These services come and go fairly frequently.
Individual things like whether they have LPG filling for bbqs maybe, but servos
don't move that often (usually taken over by another one). In any case, it's
probably not
On 09/12/2009, at 8:41 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:37 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
I'd suggest doing something like import if there is not an existing
amenity=fuel within X distance, flag it for manual checking if there is.
Ah, didn't know that kind
On 07/12/2009, at 7:29 PM, John Smith wrote:
2009/12/7 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
James has been pointing out that the Feds, who can afford good lawyers, find
CC-by-Sa and CC-by as quite satisfactory in Australia.
As far as I can gather CC-BY-SA most likely won't work in the US, so I
can only
On 05/12/2009, at 10:29 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:
Certainly we should make this case clear to the OSM community.
Database protection always seemed to be a euro-centric ideal and not
one that the new licence analysis seemed to respond to adequately.
However, I believe that the ODbL
On 05/12/2009, at 11:30 PM, Grant Slater wrote:
For clarity... the OSM Foundation is not some evil group...
The OSMF is open, anyone from the community can join. The OSMF Board
is democratically elected from the OSMF membership.
If anyone who isn't a OSMF member wants to read the discussion,
On 06/10/2009, at 2:12 PM, John Smith wrote:
Lake Eyre etc is so big they used natural=coastline... Although this
comes back to the question the other day, where does the coastline
start/end, legally speaking it cuts across bays, it doesn't go round
them or up rivers...
I looked into this a
On 05/10/2009, at 3:59 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote:
So PLEASE look at the sat photos and already entered data before you
go removing the coastline and using the ABS data automatically as
the coastline.
As a +1 comment, I'd also like to note that in many places the ABS
follow the
On 06/10/2009, at 11:37 PM, Jim Croft wrote:
Of course, this won't work for mariners and lawyers... :)
No, but there are (proposed) tags to indicate the low-tide mark, and
the OpenSeaMap guys might have something for other various maritime
boundaries.
My favourite estuary is the Fly River
On 03/10/2009, at 5:21 PM, Evan Sebire wrote:
If someone knows a bbq that is clearly visible on the satellite
imagery that
would help to verify the procedure.
There are two at
http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=17ll=-35.293,149.093layer=BTT
I think I did those from waypoints, but
On 02/10/2009, at 8:33 PM, James Livingston wrote:
I converted the World Heritage Area file on my machine, and just
uploaded one of the areas[1]. Does it look okay to people? If so,
I'll go ahead and do the rest of the WHA data.
Right, so it turns out that my randomly chosen one
On 30/09/2009, at 10:25 PM, Emilie Laffray wrote:
I really like to see the vegetation cover and the forest!! What are
they? Shapefiles? If they are shapefiles, they come with their own
projection files and therefore can be easily converted into another
coordinate using ST_Transform inside
On 02/10/2009, at 8:42 PM, John Smith wrote:
2009/10/2 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
With the current tags you've used it probably won't render, since it's
a national park you're going to get into the whole is it natural=wood,
or landuse=forest type debate, I think both get rendered
On 02/10/2009, at 8:50 PM, Emilie Laffray wrote:
Regarding tags, when we worked on the Corine import in France, we
set up a page on the wiki where people were making their
suggestions. We then had a small debate on what was better and then
we voted.
Indeed, hence my I've uploaded a
On 02/10/2009, at 9:01 PM, John Smith wrote:
Might have to be a multipolygon, I just can't get it to render at all
if I tell mapnik the tiles are dirty.
I've just changed it over to be a multipolygon relation - if that
works, I'll go file a bug against the renderer.
A forest in the UK
On 01/10/2009, at 8:53 PM, John Smith wrote:
I tried to use it to augment GPS data but the math ended up doing my
head in so I'm not sure how much use this would be compared to a 4 or
5Hz GPS logger alone unless someone is super duper at velocity math
that is.
It wouldn't be too hard, just
On 27/09/2009, at 8:06 AM, Jim Croft wrote:
Given that OSM is a land-based project, the mean high water mark is
probably might be the best to use.
The water cover page[0] suggests that you use water=tidal;surface=sand
for the area between the high and low water marks (assuming it's a
sandy
On 27/09/2009, at 4:37 PM, John Smith wrote:
I came across a perfect example of how good and bad the PGS data can
be at the same time and when it makes sense to use both PGS and ABS
data to make a better coast line:
http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=13lat=-23.75251lon=151.26423layers=0BTF
On 24/09/2009, at 9:51 PM, John Smith wrote:
They didn't seem to have a link to download it and even if they did I
only know a limited number of computer languages, I don't know perl or
ruby or python which are common languages for stuff done for OSM
I know some Python if you need a hand.
On 25/09/2009, at 6:44 AM, Liz wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Mark Pulley wrote:
(I should be able to complete the Antarctica highway system
on the trip :-P )
Now to be able to say that I have completed the entire highway for a
continent
singlehanded surely is better than North Star for
On 22/09/2009, at 5:56 PM, John Smith wrote:
If you are bored enough you can also enter the number of steps, and I
think it was on the main talk list but you should have the direction
of the way from bottom to top of the stairs.
Regardless of what the talk list may have said, I think that half
On 18/09/2009, at 10:03 PM, John Smith wrote:
As for roundabouts, they're a bit of hassle and I'd love for JOSM to
do it better but any way as things are I either draw a square and then
add mid points between the 4 corners to turn it into a roundabout, or
I draw a triangle and hit shift+o,
On 17/09/2009, at 3:29 PM, John Smith wrote:
2009/9/17 Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com:
Interesting datasets available in the west
The copyright terms seem unfavourable.
From the original mail:
On 17/9/2009 Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote:
Landgate is presently considering Creative
On 08/09/2009, at 8:57 AM, Roy Wallace wrote:
For tagging highway=bus_stop 's, in addition to the existing
shelter=yes/no, I'm planning to also use bench=yes/no and
waste_basket=yes/no, as these features are often installed as part
of the bus stop itself, in Brisbane.
Tagging separate
On 03/09/2009, at 9:02 PM, John Smith wrote:
2009/9/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
* What exactly does commercial mapping entity mean for the purposes
of 4?
It's very clear if something has not for profit status based on their
governing rules.
While it's quite clear what commercial
On 16/08/2009, at 12:17 PM, Liz wrote:
While looking at the wiki page describing the highway tag[0]
recently,
I noticed that the Australian entry in International Equivalence
doesn't match what is on the Australian Tagging Guidelines page, and
what actually gets mapped.
I used to get
On 26/08/2009, at 7:44 PM, John Smith wrote:
One example given was do you search on google to rent a house,
generally no one does, they use a specialist search engine that is
built for rent listings.
That reminds me of something I was wishing for a couple of months ago,
trying to find a
On 21/08/2009, at 8:16 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
1. nominations open.
2. voting opens
3. nominations close (how can anyone vote if nominations aren't
closed)
4. last minute registrations to vote
5. last minute call to vote (24 hours notice)
Nomination closing after the voting had opened
On 21/08/2009, at 8:13 PM, Sam Couter wrote:
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'd like to think things were that active in Australia map wise but
I don't think that's an accurate picture :)
I have around 800 messages in my mailbox from the past month from this
list. That puts us
On 17/08/2009, at 11:07 AM, John Smith wrote:
--- On Mon, 17/8/09, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess the problems with this would be:
* Duplication with public toilets that are already marked
Only import toilets where there is no node=amenity within 250-500m,
throw them into
On 13/08/2009, at 11:18 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:
If anybody knows any federal government datasources that would be
useful, the Government 2.0 taskforce is looking for data sources that
the community would find useful but currently aren't available for
technical reasons [1]. This will
Hi all,
While looking at the wiki page describing the highway tag[0] recently,
I noticed that the Australian entry in International Equivalence
doesn't match what is on the Australian Tagging Guidelines page, and
what actually gets mapped.
For example it says that in states with MABC
On 14/08/2009, at 7:26 PM, John Smith wrote:
The problem is some/all routing software doesn't treat residential
as through roads, but do treat unclassified as through roads.
Effectively highway=residential means highway=[residential|
unclassified] and access=destination.
I realise we're
On 11/08/2009, at 4:51 PM, Liz wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote:
If anything I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to achieve an
outcome,
the outcome needs a legal entity of some sort, a local entity would
be one
way, another is to go via OSMF although I don't know how
On 11/08/2009, at 11:29 PM, John Smith wrote:
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
From what I've read about OSM Local Chapters, we would
have a local
entity which is federated to the OSM Foundation. Which
means that
the local entity (e.g. OSM Australia, although
On 11/08/2009, at 11:35 PM, James Livingston wrote:
Ah, that seems to have been updates two days ago, and a whole bunch of
things are now different then they were before (in some cases, saying
the complete opposite).
I probably should have re-read the page first.
I mean different/opposite
On 08/08/2009, at 11:58 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:39:38 + (GMT)
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:
This case is an exception since there is a place=* node for Perth
which is marked as a capital city, does anyone know 2 towns or
villiages or ... with the
Hi all,
As I've just discovered, you need to have some care when editing
anything that causes a change to a way with over 2000 nodes (e.g. a
lot of the ABS boundaries).
NEVER under any circumstances let anything happen to you editor during
the upload. You can't let JOSM crash, have network
On 02/08/2009, at 8:20 PM, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:
amenity=bbq being rendered?
Does anyone know if how to tag those has been discusses before?
Australia seems to contain about an equal number of amenity=bbq and
amenity=barbeque, with a handful of amenity=barbecue thrown in. There
are
On 28/07/2009, at 10:31 AM, Roy Wallace wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Stephen Hopeslh...@gmail.com
wrote:
It is the road under the bridge that has the limitation,
not the bridge. Divided roads often have different max heights on
each
side, but it is one level bridge over the
On 28/07/2009, at 11:28 AM, Roy Wallace wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Apollinaris Schoellascho...@gmail.com
wrote:
one bridge can cross multiple roads with different maxheight
limtations.
And, by the way, on the other hand: one way can pass under multiple
bridges with
On 28/07/2009, at 11:04 AM, Ross Scanlon wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:34:00 +1000
Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
A clearance tag could just as easily be misinterpreted as the
maxheight tag.
I don't see how. bridge=yes; clearance=2.8...
Does this mean the bridge has a
be for
anyone who wants to car pool from down this way to contact me, and I
can co-ordinate who is driving and where we need to meet people.
On 28/07/2009, at 10:32 PM, John Smith wrote:
--- On Tue, 28/7/09, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
Looking at the TransLink site, the trains
On Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, at 11:47AM, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Not entirely your fault and it's been an ongoing argument of maillists in
general for a decade or more.
Just hit reply to all.
Reply to list? Unfortunately most non-Unixy/open-source mail clients don't
On 26/07/2009, at 6:39 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
bridge=no
--
You will be run over by a bus.
Because you were standing below and the bus ran off the now non-
existent bridge? :P
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On 20/07/2009, at 10:58 PM, John Smith wrote:
Is there enough interest in a mapping party at Nambour and/or
surrounding areas at all?
From memory there is usually a fair number of trains to/from
Brisbane every day to Nambour station I'm guessing but I don't think
parking would be too
On 14/07/2009, at 7:55 PM, Matt White wrote:
occurs to me that the ABS data that was imported is probably
substantially better quality than we will ever get either with a gps
or
tracing off yahoo (some areas excepted).
I'd been noticing the same thing, in many places the ABS boundaries
On 24/06/2009, at 12:59 PM, John Smith wrote:
Also with my previous answer, you can get away with only 14 bytes
per point rather than 17, 3 bytes for time, 4 for lat, 4 for lon, 2
for time, 1 for hdop. Although if reset tracks that go over 65,000
seconds back to zero you could get away
Resent, because I accidently only sent it to David
On 21/06/2009, at 4:56 PM, David Dean wrote:
Of course, if the number of kilometres is always the same you could
easily
work out where the location is anyway by looking at the blank hole
in all
their traces, helpfully centred on their
On 25/06/2009, at 8:02 PM, John Smith wrote:
--- On Thu, 25/6/09, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
* the DOP has changed
Why would this matter, DOP usually varies, although it is usually
pointless recording over 4 or 5, and if you want to 1dp multiple it
by ten, so you only really
On 25/06/2009, at 8:38 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
Yes, and I've tried to be a bit obscure about my location, but if
you know my
name, everyone in town knows which is my house.
One person well known to me put his marker in the local cemetery.
Yeah, small country towns are a whole different
On 16/06/2009, at 1:08 AM, Delta Foxtrot wrote:
Now does anyone have suggestions on how to basically drive the
entire town the most efficiently with the minimal amount of overlap,
or how does one plan such a feat.
There's a nice mathematical algorithm for figuring out that. All you
need
On 16/06/2009, at 1:52 PM, Liz wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote:
Most likely I'll be returning via a different direction, I don't
particularlly like going out west, there is whole lots of nothing
inbetween
a few somethings.
OSM makes you look for somethings out there
On 28/02/2009, at 3:38 PM, Jim Croft wrote:
Putting words into their mouths, I think the argument would be that
the decision-making involved in selection, storage, management and
display of these fact is indeed a creative act, even though the facts
themselves aren't. A blank screen magically
legal system and other mechanisms when it doesn't.
Cheers,
James Livingston
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On 12/01/2009, at 11:48 AM, Kim Hawtin wrote:
Any folks off to LCA09 next week?
http://linux.conf.au/
Feed like a catchup?
Perhaps we could do a BoF?
I'm unfortunately not going to make it down there, but I reckon there
should be some interested people around.
What would probably be a
On 05/01/2009, at 12:51 PM, Roy Rankin wrote:
This has raised in my mind the question of how should registered clubs
such as RSL and sports clubs be tagged. They tend to be very similar
to
pubs in that they usually serve alcohol, have gambling, and serve
food.
They differ from pubs by
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